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    The draft system is literally the best thing about the NFL.
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    I give this trade 1 and a half thumbs up.
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    Odds that the Ravens cut Crabtree for a failed physical and go after Dez?
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    I wonder how many people got infuriated at "I may get frustrated at the Pats". Like it's so hard for you to be Pats fan.
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    Rams doing everything this offseason besides giving Aaron Donald a contract extension...
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    One more reason why I'd never consider hiring that guy if I ran a NFL team.
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    After his history of lying about stuff and being a scumbag, he deserves all the karma heading his way.
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    Was he suspended for not taking enough?
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    The current best safety in the NFL Harrison Smith got shafted.
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    Reports say Louis tried to catch Pryor's punch but it bounced off his hands. Then Pryor tried to tackle him but whiffed.
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    Manti Teo's girlfriend
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    That rounds it up guys, appreciate the back and forth and some surprising good words considering this is generally a very sensitive thing to do with so many ways to look at it. The good news is, if your team is ranked low, there's a very, very good chance I'm completely wrong here. Each person who enjoys the draft would probably have a completely different order, that's what makes it fun.
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    Cool scenario. But Kaep runs all over that defense in Green Bay, San Fran, London, Australia, or Mars. They had absolutely no answer for the read-option.
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    37 is a little young for us, but I am sure Gruden can coach him up.
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    Real talk about Joe Thomas one of our mods in the browns forum was dying of cancer (RIP crakburn). he really wanted to meet a browns player. a bunch of forum members on this here very forum made it happen. turns out the player was Joe Thomas. he agreed, and if i remember correclty, he only came as long as no media found out this dude was a pillar of the community, loved cleveland, and was an amazing player. by far best browns pick ive ever seen.
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    I've wanted to do a piece on the evaluation of ILBs in the second decade of the 21st century for a long time now. Much of my notes and thoughts on this subject extend from that area of interest. I've yet to actually finish writing this piece because I've never had any real prompting to do so. I've finally found my muse on this topic with so much discussion of Jake Ryan going on in the 2015 Packers Draft Thread. So here's what I've put together. Off-Ball Linebackers in 21st Century Football There was a time when "Off-Ball Linebackers" were the face of a defense. Offenses ran the football more, and they ran the football inside out of the I-formation with far more frequency in the 1980s and 1990s than even the most risk adverse offenses do today. The Fullback was a full time starter and not a utility player brought in for situational plays. Defenses ran 4-DB Base Defenses with a frequency that would startle most observant NFL fans of 2018. 2 TE looks and 2 Back looks were the preferred personnel groupings for offenses. Offenses weren't run first units, but there was significantly more balance than there is in the 2010s. By nature of their position, Off Ball Linebackers are primarily run defenders. They have coverage and blitzing responsibility, but they aren't every down rushers, nor are they every down coverage guys. Their job is to read and to flow to the ball. The majority of their coverage assignments are dropping into zones and trying to play passing lanes by watching a QBs eyes and discouraging throws over their head. The second most common assignment is coming forward to tackle a ball carrier who's catching a ball in a surrendered zone that the defense is comfortable with a completed pass. Some coverages will require running with a Tight End or a Back, but Box Safeties and Nickel Backs are quickly taking over that role unless the guys playing Inside Linebacker are studs in coverage. Defensive Backs are smaller, which correlates to being quicker and better in coverage. As Offenses develop and continue to become more pass happy, you're seeing DBs taking over more and more snaps. Just about every team now runs a 6-man front group the majority of the time. You end up with 2 DTs, 2 Edge Rushers, and 2 Off-Ball Linebackers. That breakdown is consistent regardless of Base Front. The difference that you see in the Base Front is whether the DB steps in for a DT or an Off-Ball Linebacker. Both run stuffing DTs and Off-Ball Linebackers are being hunted into extinction by bigger defensive backs playing Box Safety. There's an additional DB on the field on 20% more plays just since 2012. I'd go back further, but Football Outsiders doesn't have full snap data available to the public going back that far. You see the league's perceptive value of the Off-Ball Linebacker continuing to fall in other ways. They fall into the lower class of NFL Defenders (along with Safeties) based on pay per position. This is only taking the Top-5 players at each position, but it paints the picture that Inside Linebackers, even dominant ones, aren't pulling elite money. That trend extends out to the Top-20 at each position breakdown but that's the farthest I've ever bother to take it while examining the salary data. We see a similar break down based on draft capital spent. Edge Rushers and Corners carry a strong lead over the rest of the positions. Inside Linebackers are the lowest tier here. There's just not a love for them in the first round. It's with the following information in mind that I draw the conclusion that the ILB position is the least valuable on the defensive side of the ball. For certain it's the least valued by teams when assigning resources to filling positions All of this seems to be a very round about way of getting to the Packers group of players. I think most agree that Blake Martinez is the long term starter at one of the ILB positions. His play this year was statistically that of a very good linebacker. His bullet point resume for the season looks as follows: 3rd in the NFL in Solo Tackles 6th among Off-Ball Linebackers in TFL 1 INT 1 Sack 1 FF 2 FR He finished ranked 23 among ILB by Pro Football Focus* That's all-around a very good player. Also very important, the contract is a big help to the team for the remainder of his rookie deal. His cap hit in 2018 is a measley $725,848. In 2019 it's $815,848. He becomes a Free Agent in 2020, so barring a catastrophic injury, Blake Martinez will be one of your ILBs for the next two seasons. The question then becomes who is playing next to Martinez? Jake Ryan's future in this league and role in this defense in 2018 is going to be an interesting one. Unless you REALLY love Joe Thomas, Jake Ryan is the second most talented pure ILB on this roster. What that means regarding the future of the defense remains unknown. Both Morgan Burnett and Josh Jones played Inside Linebacker snaps in 2017 and that remains a viable option going forward. Additionally there's the option of the draft, but there's a lot of need at high impact positions to be shopping at ILB when you have decent options already available. Roquan Smith is a name that's been floated, but seems to be far less popular of an option than any of the Edge guys. There seems to be a prevailing forum opinion that Jake Ryan is a JAG who isn't a starting caliber player in this league. Maybe I'm letting the vocal minority sway my perception of the board's opinion, but that's the attitude I tend to read the most. The most common criticism seems to be that Ryan is too slow and unathletic to play ILB in the NFL in 2018, specifically in coverage aspects. I want to question that assumption because Jake Ryan isn't bad athlete. He's a slightly above average athlete for the ILB position. There's a ton of love for the Inside Linebacker group in Minnesota, and they're both damn good players, Barr in particular but the Packers group isn't a slow group by any stretch of the imagination. I'm going to put up the 40/10/3 cone numbers of 4 linebackers that I want everyone to keep in mind the next time they want to rip on Ryan being a plodder, because it's not an opinion that's really founded in reality. Jake Ryan (4.65/1.62/7.11) Anthony Barr (4.66/1.67/6.82) Eric Kendricks (4.61/1.57/7.14) Blake Martinez (4.71/1.61/6.98) I'm not going on record saying that Jake Ryan is an elite athlete or a great cover guy, because that's not the argument that I'm making, but he sure as **** seems to be good enough to live with while you build up a pass rush that seemed punchless for large portions of the season. Ryan isn't even a bad cover guy on the field. I think a large potion of his reputation was formed his rookie season when he was a rookie who was physically and mentally slower than the player that he is after a few years of working with NFL coaching. He was lousy as a rookie, no doubt, but ILB isn't a position that makes a ton of impact plays to draw the eye to change an opinion formed. His year in 2016 was pretty darn solid. PFF listed him as their 3rd most improved rookie to Sophomore in 2016. This is the blurb: https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-the-10-most-improved-second-year-players Obviously Pro Football Focus needs to be taken with a large grain of salt, but according to their metrics, similar strides were made in 2017. Ryan finished the year ranked as their 17th best Inside Linebacker, ahead of Blake Martinez. I find that idea to be difficult to accept on it's face, but the idea that Jake Ryan actually might not suck is one that doesn't offend sensibilities at it's suggestion. Some of their game by game breakdowns Bucs/Steelers/Vikings Again, I want to reitterate, I'm not saying that Jake Ryan is a star, but I do feel like he's a positive piece to this defense and not a problem piece. He's definitely not a piece, that I feel deserves to be thrown away or have his replacement actively sought out with premium capital. This just seems like a guy who has developed into a player that deserves to be playing. I certainly feel like the decision routinely made by Capers to keep Ryan off the field in favor of a dime package featuring a rookie Josh Jones and Marwin Evans/Jermaine Whitehad against 11 Personnel was a terrible decision. Obviously Pettine is going to have to make calls on the field but the middle of this defense seems strong if Morgan Burnett is brought back. It's the perimeter that needs help, and I hope that's where the Front Office efforts and the capital will be spent.
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    There’s dumb, unbelievably dumb, and then there’s having 3 Browns receivers on your fantasy team dumb. You deserve to miss the playoffs and then some.
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    I'm glad none of you are the commissioner.
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    I thought that there might have been a banned substance in all those W's he's been eating
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    stop pussifying the NFL.
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    Davenport just doesn't run the arc well. Bad college offensive tackles cheat on the move they're expecting. Davenport beats guys to the edge when he catches them cheating, Landry beats guys to the edge when they're expecting it. That's the significant difference between the two and theyre ability to speed rush. Counterpoint, Landry hasn't shown any kind of counter power in his game, purely on versatility of their rush game you have to hold Davenport in higher regard. Counter-counterpoint, you don't need to have a very diverse game to be a threatening pass rusher. Vic Beasley doesn't have any power game to speak of, but he gets it done. Counter-counter-counterpoint, Harold Landry isn't the athlete that Vic Beasley is both in shorts and in pads, and do you need to be a genuinely top tier athlete to operate as a one trick pony? Counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, Are we sure Harold Landry isn't a genuinely top tier athlete? He's got a better 3-cone time (generally the most positive indicator of edge rusher success) than Beasley (admittedly only three hundreths better) at 6 pounds heavier. Counter-counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, Beasley absolutely blows Landry out of the water in the 40 time (4.53 vs 4.64) and jumps (41"/130" vs. 36"/119"). While they have a very similar 3-cone time, Beasley's just got a better first step and it shows on the field and in the numbers. Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, We all get that Besley is a genuine freak of nature rusher, but isn't 75% of a healthy Vic Beasley a very functional player in this league? Beasley had 15.5 sacks as a sophomore when he was healthy. Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, This isn't a comparison of Landry vs. Beasley though, this is a comparison of Landry vs. Davenport. Landry may have more upside as a pass rusher, but Davenport isn't a schlub in that regard. He's a very good power rusher prospect who should adjust well to run defense in the NFL, where Landry looks like he might get run over. Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, I don't think anyone is debating the notion that Landry is a safer pick than Davenport. It's very difficult to imagine Davenport ever busting out of the league. Even if his power doesn't translate you're still talking about a guy who can be a plug and play dependable backup who will give you something. If Landry's speed rush doesn't come with him, i'm not sure there's a spot for him on an NFL defense. Landry's got the higher floor and the lower ceiling, the question is where do you see him between those two points. If you're confident he's a burner around the edge who is going to constantly threaten the edge with his first step then you go Landry. If you're concerned that NFL OTs are going to shut him down when hands land and drive him back into your ILBs on run downs, then you take Davenport. Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, Can we afford another bust on defense? Clay's legs are starting to go and neither he nor Perry can be relied on to stay healthy. Fackrell and Biegel aren't inspiring confidence either. We could seriously blow this season due to a lack of pass rush if we don't get SOMETHING out of this draft that can fluster a QB. Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, Can we really afford another decent but non-difference maker on this defense? We've got like 5 guys on this defense that fall just short of the star moniker. All that happens is we end up overpaying them star money because some other team thinks they could be a star and we don't want to lose them. This defense needs a genuine Von Miller/justin Houston style difference maker. Another player who doesn't noticeably move the needle doesn't do anything for us. Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, We're not that far away as a team, one solid contributor could push us over the edge. Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counterpoint, I disagree, I don't see the talent on this team as being anywhere near what it needs to be to be a super bowl contender, especially on defense. Skypilot: Well if Ted Thompson hadn't signed AJ Hawk to a 12 year contract for the most guaranteed money in the history of professional sports, we wouldn't be in this position. HtZ: I swear to God if we draft Quenton Nelson I'm going to drive to GB and personally burn down that god forsaken building. NormSizedMidget: firegute.com AG20: Check out this play I found that I thought was interesting, neat. Acts like he's not at all bitter nobody posts in his threads packfanfb: Jake Ryan needs to be cut. BobFox: 8 paragraphs summarizing the Packers offseason for the 7th time, a few Chris Landry quotes, and some mediocre surface level analysis Packerraymond: Being in Green Bay is not a disadvantage for signing players Incog, SkiBrett, Squire, Spilltray, Etc: How come I don't get a mocking line? Everyone else: Why am I still reading this? AG20: Why am I still writing this? Allison Brie: Because you're still drunk from last night. Fin
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    Winningest QB of the Hue Jackson era Browns
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    I’m skeptical of what LA is doing this offseason. Seems like when teams have these big offseason they don’t work out.
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    Can't believe you suggested this. You should be ashamed of yourself and your family.
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    I don’t think I’d want someone who abondones puppies on the side of a freeway, or intentionally tries to hurt people or fakes police reports. Hopefully we don’t see him play another down
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    The Saints drafted Reggie Bush in 2006 and 11 years later they finally got that player they were expecting.
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    so the raiders didnt have enough money left to pull the trigger?
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    Good for Jimmy. Now he's able to rent a studio apartment in San Fran.
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    Thanks for the heads up. No one has ever been banned for 'logging in from too many ip's'. Judging by your few posts with this account, I'm sure you were banned for rule violations. Banned members aren't allowed to return with new usernames, so your account has been banned again.
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    He's done it. Alex Smith just threw a successful check down hail mary.
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    Among the ones I've watched, it was definitely LaDainian Tomlinson.
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    Strongly disagree with your opinion. The picks were so excting. I was very happy with the broadcasts. And yea.. replay is a thing.
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    Nick Saban would know exactly how to address this and keep him in line. A stern talking to, followed by a vague press conference, followed by a subsequent first half benching against Mercer. Lesson learned by Reuben and then he'd be a model citizen.
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    100% positive this won't apply to RBs lowering their helmets going into contact, which makes this BS to me. It has to apply both ways.
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    Too bad he's not still one of Saban's guys. I'm sure that he'd get a stern talking to, immediately followed by a first half suspension against Mercer. That would show him.
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    Plans to represent himself, entering a plea of "Dindoo nuffin' ".
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    Associated Press reports Ted Thompson will be transitioning more toward the marketing side of things. Press conferences, commercials, fan parties, and anything with a speaking role to further his passion of relaying information to the fans and the press
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    Matt Barkley approves this message.
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    Instantly a better Dawg Pound than the Browns have.
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    Sorry. Slow day. I couldn’t resist the pun.
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