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  1. 25 points
    Found it. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22401946/frank-reich-agrees-five-year-deal-indianapolis-colts-coach
  2. 20 points
    This is what you get when Brian Cushing is your S/C Coach...
  3. 16 points
  4. 11 points
    The rift is not Justin Jefferson, it is losing. When you are losing like the Eagles are, where there is plenty of blame to pass around in multiple areas, you start questioning everything, including things like this. Bottom line is that it is way too early to make a judgement on whether Reagor is a bust or Jefferson was the better pick. In year one, absolutely Jefferson is playing way better than Reagor. But we've seen tides shift before on matters like this, and who knows what the future holds for both of these guys. This conversation is just a side effect of the Eagles losing.
  5. 11 points
    Bolles is good now? Interesting. Munchak is a miracle worker. OL Coach is a majorly underrated position in the NFL.
  6. 9 points
  7. 8 points
    This is your weekly reminder will fuller has made it through... Oh...
  8. 8 points
    Also - Raise your hand if you thought this was a Brady/Mahomes thread.
  9. 8 points
    I sure regret us taking Zack Martin and Travis Frederick in the first round...
  10. 7 points
    We've hopefully weathered the COVID storm that has cost us far too many player games. We've survived and are continuing to survive injuries. Are we out of the woods completely? I sure hope so. We've survived Jerome Boger's horrifying officiating crew in Jacksonville. The zebra's performance on Sunday? ......and many people had our back about the LOUSY job that they did last Sunday. https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/11/29/browns-jaguars-officiating-bad-calls-jerome-boger-reaction/ However, this man BALLED OUT last week. We're going to need the best out of him the rest of the season. We're in a good position, but are still plenty of hurdles to get over We've stumbled, yet have managed to survive, grinding out wins against teams that we should be defeating. Did any of you ever think you'd actually be saying that about a Browns team? It feels good, doesn't it? HOWEVER.... The Titans are a formidable offense, with an absolute bellcow at the running back position. Besides Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry might be the most formidable offensive weapon we face all year. There's no denying the fact that he is a dynamic player. Couple him with AJ Brown, and they make for a difficult club to face. We've got to figure out how to slow down this group. The Titans don't have a great defense, so we should be able to move the ball on them with our own weapons. This dynamic duo was heard to say........ This club isn't perfect, but damn we've got some good pieces in place. Doggone it, it is fun as hell to have a competitive club to be supporting? Sunday is going to be an absolute slugfest. Gentlemen........ I KNOW I AM. Crank it up! Because..... Who ya got?
  11. 7 points
  12. 7 points
    IMO, y'all are nuts if you don't want Stafford on any team without a QB. He's not bad.
  13. 7 points
    There's always a right and wrong answer. For future reference, the right answer is typically whatever my opinion is and the wrong answer is the opinion of everyone who disagrees with me.
  14. 7 points
  15. 7 points
    i don't see what the resistance is to just admitting you got away with one and moving on, lol. it's not like any other team wouldn't do the same thing and take the no-call in the same situation, it's not besmirching your honor or whatever to point it out
  16. 7 points
    Odds on QBIso being found out and banned for being a past poster Yes: -250 No: +175
  17. 7 points
    I think everyone who keeps claiming NFL is giving special treatment to certain teams should just realize 2 points by now: 1. NFL just wants the games played, period. They're trying to do it in the safest way possible, when teams have repeated positive tests over different clusters, they'll delay as long as possible (TEN, NE, now BAL), but when push comes to shove, they'll find a way to justify playing. That's what we are seeing tonight. 2. They are only going to delay games if there's a risk of team outbreak. If you have more than 1 cluster, then they will try to push the game back. But if it's only 1 cluster, they're going to let teams play shorthanded, no delays. That's LV, SF & DEN. I've seen so many posts, tweets, etc. suggesting the NFL is playing favorites. They're not. It's just the bottom line is to get the games played - within the safest circumstances where possible, but only delayed if there's a clear risk of outbreak, otherwise no delay. But even with outbreak, they'll delay until they are forced into a corner, but ultimately will push ahead if forced - that's what we're seeing here tonight. Games played = TV revenue preserved. It's really that simple IMO.
  18. 7 points
    Why it failed in Detroit with Matt Patricia. And really for a lot of the BB coaching tree IMO: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2917777-how-matt-patricias-patriot-way-went-the-wrong-way-in-detroit
  19. 7 points
    Wait, you’re telling me this is Houston WITH enhanced performance?
  20. 7 points
    I'm still saying Hopkins. He's QB proof - Kyler Murray, Deshaun Watson, Brian Hoyer, Tom Savage - doesn't matter, Hopkins gonna get his.
  21. 7 points
    I can picture it now Elway drops back, rolls to the right and throws a TD with no time left in the game 45-7 Saints
  22. 7 points
  23. 6 points
    I am saying one thing here....and I dont think I have EVER said this in here, since I've been a poster (1999)....... IF we win this game we PUNCH OUR PLAYOFF Ticket.....
  24. 6 points
    You don't want to go down this road 🤣🤣
  25. 6 points
    I wouldn't hate that because that is at least a cohesive plan, which is better than the alternatives
  26. 6 points
    We need the "Week 12 Texans PED news" megathread
  27. 6 points
  28. 6 points
    My disdain for the Chiefs stems mostly from @Kirill’s posts. And I don’t like the Chiefs. They have a child-beater in Tyreek Hill on their roster, which automatically docks them points. Plus they’re really good, which was immediately makes me root against them. It’s all made easier when the 2nd most important player on their team is complete and utter scum. I do like Kelce tho. And CEH. And I don’t dislike Mahomes. They have a lot of likeable dudes really. It’s just hard not to root against the new potential dynasty, especially when it houses players like Frank Clark and Tyreek Hill.
  29. 6 points
    Why would it have to be over Bisi? Pretty easy to just swap him with either Sharpe or Osborn on the roster. I would certainly bring him back next year as a UFA. Could be the new Marcus Sherels with some gadget ability on offense as well as a core special teamer. For as good as Patterson is as a returner, he’s a great gunner too.
  30. 6 points
    He's a Nick Saban waiting to happen in the NFL. His pre-game pep talks and such work when you're pitching to kids who are trying to make their mark and get drafted - but it would grow tiresome quickly at the next level. There's talk of Dabo to Houston (the Deshaun Watson connection) and goodness - I'll get so sick to my stomach if he's named HC. Dabo with freaking Jack Easterby, in the city with Joel Osteen? Holy hell, I'm moving to Canada.
  31. 6 points
    THATS FOUR IN A ROW WHOSE YOUR DADDY
  32. 6 points
  33. 6 points
    I’m really not a fan of these other AFC South teams making smart decisions.
  34. 6 points
    Yeah, but since they just had one former Patriots coordinator flame out, would they want to go back for another one? After the issues they had with Patricia's personality, and considering the way McDaniels flaked out on the Colts, I wouldn't want him if I were the Lions.
  35. 6 points
    I hope they stuck that #$%#ing pencil in his eye before showing him the door. I hate that #$%^ing pencil. "Oh he's got a pencil, he must be a genius engineer! He must be brilliant at fuba!"
  36. 6 points
  37. 5 points
    For several decades we were told that teams needed certain foundations to be successful. We heard it so much that we accepted it. We KNOW that teams need to have a great QB, LT, Pass Rusher, #1 WR, #1 CB, and RB (probably in that order). We know that if a team has a franchise QB, that you never let that QB go. You ride that horse until that horse retires (or attempts to play way past their utility like we have sadly seen with way too many nfl QBs but I digress). We know this because that's the way it was back in the70s (Bradshaw, Staubach, etc) 80s (Montana, Elway, Marino), 90s (Aikman, Young, Favre) and 00s (Manning, Brady, Brees). Of course there were exceptions along the way... McMahon, Dilfer, Hostetler, Williams, Johnson, etc. We quickly dismissed the exceptions because of historically great defenses, etc. Those days are OVER. In the new NFL, coaches have adopted so much of the college schemes that young QBs no longer have the same learning curve. The era of the traditional pocket QBs is a relic of the past. Now, numerous second and third QBs are playing at MVP levels that we've never seen in the past. Yet, some people still hold onto the notion of veteran QB superiority because that's the way it was for 40+ years. Over the past 5 years concepts have changed so much that the 80s and 90s models no longer apply. A rookie or very young QB playing great in the first 2-3 years was rare. Now, it's become fairly common. And, it has changed everything we thought we knew about the QB position in the NFL. ONLY TRULY ELITE QBs MERIT ELITE COMPENSATION You will quickly see paying elite money to non elite QBs is a recipe for disaster. It doesn't work. It's doomed to fail. It's not sustainable. Lets look at the top 10 paid QBs for the past 5 years. For comparison sake, I've bolded the QBs that are NFL elites. The difference between elite QBs and good QBs is that the elites are so good that they justify the salary because they can make up for team deficiencies. For example, Russell Wilson has proven he can win without an good OL. The money the Seahawks save by skimping on the OL can be paid to Wilson because he is elusive, has a quick release and reads defenses well. By comparison, Philip Rivers needs elite protection to succeed. Paying Rivers similar to what the Seahawks pay Wilson is insanity. 2019 Player Record Cap hit Base Matt Stafford 3-12-1 $30,700,000 $19,500,000 Aaron Rodgers 13-3 $29,352,000 $29,260,000 Kirk Cousins 10-6 $29,000,000 $28,000,000 Russell Wilson 11-5 $26,286,766 $70,000,000 Ben Roethlisberger 8-8* $26,200,000 $45,000,000 Eli Manning 4-12 $23,200,000 $17,000,000 Cam Newton 5-11 $23,200,000 $16,700,000 Philip Rivers 5-11 $23,000,000 $16,000,000 Drew Brees 13-3 $22,700,000 $23,000,000 Derek Carr 7-9 $22,500,000 $20,000,000 Roethlisberger gets an asterisk because he was injured and back up QBs played the majority of the year. Combined record of top 10 highest paid QBs... 79-80-1 Now, let's factor out the ELITE QBs to see how the highly priced good QBs fair. The high priced good QBs were an underwhelming 34-61-1. Clearly this is well below average. Paying these QBs top dollar HURT these teams because they were not good enough to overcome the deficiencies created by paying one player such a disproportionate portion of the salary cap. Now, the top 4 teams to reach the conference championships were the Chiefs, Titans, 49ers, and Packers. Only one team had a top 10 paid QBs. Chiefs had the 31st highest paid QB. The Titans had the 44th highest paid QB. The Packers had the second highest paid QB. The 49ers had the 15th highest paid QB. The FACTS support that NOT paying good QBs elite money helps a team to win. In fact, 2 of the lowest paid QBs in the NFL made deep playoff runs. 2018 Player Record Cap hit Base Jimmy Garoppolo 4-12 $37,000,000 $41,950,000 Matt Stafford 6-10 $26,500,000 $16,500,000 Derek Carr 4-12 $25,000,000 $22,500,000 Joe Flacco 10-6 $24,750,000 $12,000,000 Andrew Luck 10-6 $24,400,000 $18,000,000 Kirk Cousins 8-7-1 $24,000,000 $26,000,000 Drew Brees 13-3 $24,000,000 $27,000,000 Russell Wilson 10-6 $23,786,764 $15,500,000 Ben Roethlisberger 9-6-1 $23,200,000 $17,000,000 Eli Manning 5-11 $22,200,000 $16,000,000 Total combined record of top 10 highest paid QBs... 79-79-2 Now, factoring out the elite QBs, the good QBs were 57-65-1. The top 4 teams to reach the conference championships were the Pats, Chiefs, Rams, and Saints. Again, only 1 team had a top 10 paid QB. The pats had the 11th highest paid QB. The Chiefs had the 34th highest paid QB. The rams had the 24 highest paid QB. The saints had the 7th highest paid QB. Both Brees and Brady justify their salaries as they clearly fit into the elite category. But, the bigger point is that the SB could have just as easily been won by the 24th or 34th highest paid players. Both games could have easily gone the other way. And, here is probably the place to ask the question... WHAT HAVE THE RAMS GAINED BY MAKING GOFF THE THIRD HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE NFL IN 2020 FROM WHERE THEY WERE WHEN HE WAS THE 24TH HIGHEST PAID PLAYER? HOW DID PAYING GOFF IMPROVE THE TEAM? Also consider the Patriots longevity at the top. They did this without paying Brady in the top 10 (he's been in the 12-20 range with the Pats since 2014). Is that a coincidence? No. They money they have saved by not paying Brady top dollar allowed them to bring in high priced FAs like Revis and Glimore. 2017 Player Record Cap hit Base Joe Flacco 9-7 $24,550,000 $6,000,000 Carson Palmer 8-8 $24,125,000 $17,500,000 Kirk Cousins 7-9 $23,943,600 $23,943,600 Matt Ryan 10-6 $23,750,000 $15,750,000 Ryan Tannehill 6-10 $20,300,000 $18,000,000 Aaron Rodgers 7-9* $20,300,000 $13,312,500 Cam Newton 11-5 $20,166,000 $13,660,000 Eli Manning 3-13 $19,700,000 $13,500,000 Andrew Luck 4-12 $19,400,000 $13,000,000 Drew Brees 11-5 $19,000,000 $13,000,000 Asterisk reflects Aaron Rodgers injury in 2017. Combined record of top 10 highest paid QBs... 76-84 Now, factoring out the elites, the good QBs are 58- 69. The top 4 teams were the Eagles, Pats, Jags, Vikings. The Pats had the 20th highest paid QB. The Jags had the 25th highest paid QB. The Vikings had the 46th highest paid QB. The Eagles had the 47th highest paid QB. The Eagles also had the 28th highest paid QB. If you added the 2 together, the Eagles would combine for the 23rd highest paid QB. Interestingly, the Vikings thought getting a high priced QB would get them over the top. So, they paid Kurt Cousins elite money. Yet, the Vikings have not come close to repeating their success from 2017 and may miss the playoffs this year. 2016 Player Record Cap hit Base Eli Manning 11-5 $24,200,000 $18,000,000 Ben Roethlisberger 11-5 $23,950,000 $17,750,000 Matt Ryan 11-5 $23,750,000 $15,750,000 Joe Flacco 8-8 $22,550,000 $44,000,000 Matt Stafford 9-7 $22,500,000 $17,000,000 Tony Romo 13-3 $20,835,000 $8,500,000 Colin Kaepernick 2-14 $20,231,507 $14,300,000 Kirk Cousins 8-7-1 $19,953,000 $19,953,000 Cam Newton 6-10 $19,500,000 $23,000,000 Aaron Rodgers 10-6 $19,250,000 $12,600,000 Combined record of top 10 highest paid QBs... 89-70-1 Now, factoring out the elites, the good QBs are 68-59. This is the best year for both the good and elites alike. The top 4 teams were the Pats, Steelers, Falcons, and Packers. the pats had the 18th highest paid QB. The Steelers had the 2nd highest paid QB. The Falcons had the 3rd highest paid QB. And the Packers had the 1oth highest paid QB. This year is an anomaly. Clearly, the falcons could not sustain the same level of success while paying Matt Ryan. The Pats benefited tremendously from underpaying Brady for about a decade. 2015 Player Record Cap hit Base Drew Brees 7-9 $23,800,000 $19,000,000 Philip Rivers 4-12 $21,166,668 $37,500,000 Matt Ryan 8-8 $19,500,000 $11,500,000 Aaron Rodgers 10-6 $18,250,000 $11,600,000 Matt Stafford 7-9 $17,721,250 $9,500,000 Peyton Manning 12-4 $17,500,000 $19,000,000 Ben Roethlisberger 10-6 $17,245,000 $35,250,000 Jay Cutler 6-10 $16,500,000 $15,500,000 Alex Smith 11-5 $15,600,000 $12,000,000 Colin Kaepernick 5-11 $15,265,753 $11,925,000 Combined record of top 10 highest paid QBs... 80--80 Now, factoring out the elites, the good QBs were 39-65. The top 4 teams were Broncos, Patriots, Cardinals and Panthers. Broncos had the 6th highest paid QB. Pats had the 14th highest paid QB. Panthers had the 15th highest paid QB. And, Cards had the 18th highest paid QB. Some interesting things to point out here. The Panthers went from paying Cam top 15 money to mid top 10 money. They got worse. The Cardinals went from paying Palmer top 18 money to top 2 money. They got worse. From the time the Seahawks won the SB while Wilson was on his rookie deal to the present... only once did a top 10 paid qb win a SB (Manning) During that same stretch 3 QBs won SBs while on their rookie deals. The rest were won by Tom Brady who was paid in 12-20 range. Teams that had success with good but not great or elite QBs universally went backward upon paying the QB elite money. Ravens won SB with Flacco on rookie deal. They paid flacco top 10 money and got worse until they benched Flacco for Jackson. 49ers went to SB with Kap on rookie deal. They paid Kap top 10 money and got worse. The Chargers accomplished nothing by paying Rivers all those years. Now they have a QB on a rookie deal, and things are looking up. Same with the Dolphins who paid Tannehill top 10 money. The Vikings have gotten worse since paying Cousins as opposed to Keenum. What team has benefitted from paying ok or good QBs elite money? None. ITS OKAY TO START OVER WITH A YOUNG QB RATHER THAN PAY A VETERAN QB I know this will be hard for a lot of people to hear. I fully expect some people to disagree with what I'm about to say. Their disagreement is based on sentiment not winning. But, I also expect some of those same people will eventually copy and paste what I've done here and will eventually post it on reddit as if they came up with the idea by himself. He might even ask someone to make a pretty graph those shows NFL wins correlated with price of QB. Because of the adoption of college schemes at the NFL level, college QBs do not have the same learning curve coming the NFL. As such, teams should NEVER pay an okay QB good money and never pay a good QB elite money. Teams that have ditched their high priced QBs are finding success with QBs on their rookie deals. I'm not saying its easy to find a great young QB. I'm simply saying its easier to surround a good young QB with great talent when a team is paying QBs on their rookie deal. Dak had his best year as a rookie. He won a playoff game in this 3rd year. He was surrounded by great talent. I think all of us would like a re-do on his second year due to injuries and suspension. Mahomes, Jackson, Murray, Watson are all playing at MVP levels while on their rookie deals. The Browns for the first time in forever are relevant. They have assembled a really solid team. They brought in good FAs on the OL. They had trades because they had money under the cap. They are a legit playoff contender with a QB on his rookie deal. This is the new normal in the NFL. There is still a place for the elite veteran QBs. But they no longer have a monopoly on winning. Its just as easy to win now with QBs on a rookie deal and assembling a good team around the inexpensive rookie.
  38. 5 points
    Yeah I'm not sure what the realistic expectations are for our QB no matter who it is. If being a little off on 2 or 3 passes per game is unacceptable we may as well run wildcat.
  39. 5 points
  40. 5 points
    Also, LaFleur is good. Still has his issues of course, but you can say that about every HC. Still don't think this WR/TE group is overly impressive and yet this offense is one of the best in the NFL and Rodgers is playing his best football since 2011 Hopefully Lafleur is also good at picking DC's
  41. 5 points
  42. 5 points
  43. 5 points
    @Uncle Buck, you're the man. Many of us agree with you, more than half the population even. We've all just been muted by the aggression of those virtue signaling. My friend's grandmother just overdosed and almost died from oxycontin yesterday and the hospital tried to call it Covid.
  44. 5 points
    Because the Pats had multiple players test positive on different days, so the league needed to first ensure that the team was not in outbreak. 1 player testing positive is not an outbreak. The issue here is that the DEN QB's didn't mask, and were in contact with the player who tested positive. You need 5 days of negative tests and no symptoms to clear. If they had worn masks, they'd be deemed NOT high-risk. There are a lot of things wrong with the NFL's handling of Covid-19 plans, but this is ALL on DEN. The NFL can be taken to task for thinking this would keep working, as we're seeing teams having outbreaks continue and increase - but DEN's QB problems are 100% on the coaches, players and org. They didn't mask. Someone tested positive, so everyone in that group who met indoors are now a high-risk contact. And they KNEW this was a mandatory rule. So let's lay the blame where it belongs - the QB group and the coaching staff that clearly permitted this.
  45. 5 points
    To be fair, there's like - 36 people in Montana. We call is social distancing, they call it Tuesday afternoon with your neighbors.
  46. 5 points
    I just... I couldn't disagree more. If an IOL is BPA in the late 1st round, and becomes an All Pro player, he was a great pick.
  47. 5 points
    It's because they try to be more than a sports network. Politics and Social Justice stuff is all fine, but not on a sports network. They went super political during an election year and it cost them half, or actually more than half of their ratings (which is common sense if you go political, happened to the NBA too). You are a sports network. I doubt they will ever get those viewers back.
  48. 5 points
    You don't know the Lions very well. Fan and media pressure don't mean a thing to them. What they caved to was a team getting noticeably worse every week That is not the picture of fan and media pressure. That is the picture of being embarassed at your team
  49. 5 points
    Keep that same energy Steeler fans and the crybaby players. Karma is biting that ***
  50. 5 points
    Just posted this in the Eagles forum. I know its a long read, but please just read it. I want everyone to know this ****.
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