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  1. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Thanks Rich for the insight. I'm intrigued by his versatility and athletic ability (as is every team/fan I'm sure). I'd be much more on board if he were our 2nd DE drafted, as a sub package with him moving inside and bringing Key in would make for a great pass rush. In fact, I'd honestly be pretty thrilled with this outcome. However as our #1 DE though, I'd rather look elsewhere (and this is definitely a good draft to do so). Makes me wonder if we are putting much more emphasis on drafting a base end as opposed to a rush end (make sense I guess if they truly believe in Key). Would likely disappoint the contingent hoping for Burns and to a lesser extent Polite...
  2. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Any Michigan fans in here? What is Gary's deal? How can a player with such prodigious gifts have such low production? Was it truly a scheme issue? I'm honestly confused If he's drafted, you know Hurst had many loonnnnnng conversations with Mayock and Gruden. 9.5 sacks over 3 years is super bad. Honestly, I'm more concerned with 23 tackles for loss over 3 years. Really??? I feel like any starting collegiate lineman can a stumble into that many TFL over 3 years... thats not unproductive, thats non existent. The theory that he's an elite run stuffer is questionable with that stat alone... I know stats don't tell the whole story and I admit, I don't watch a lot of Michigan. So I'm genuinely asking what's his deal
  3. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    I like Ferrell a lot, but I don't see any Clark in him. Ferrell kind of reminds me of the former Panther Charles Johnson. Very good at lots of things, but not elite at any one thing. Had a great career and was a fantastic DE, I expect something similar. Would love to draft the kid
  4. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    I'd be really good with this (great if you could swap Sweat with Gary, and/or White for Williams, but splitting hairs). I have no idea if the value matches in the trades, but I'm hoping to get picks in the teens to get the edge rushers we need for out team.
  5. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Does the Lisfranc fracture not worry anyone else? My understanding is that it's very common to have chronic lingering issues associated with it. For a guy that relies so much on mobility and agility, I know I've got concerns...
  6. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    My perfect start to the draft would be one of two scenarios: Stay at #4 if either Bosa or Williams is there or Small trade back and take Sweat. Use the added capitol to move up and take Ferrell . I actually like this path better, but it's super tough to pass on elite talent and much more risky. #4 either Bosa or Williams use 24 and our 2nd RD to move up to take DE Ferrell or Sweat: I know that occasionally both have fallen in mocks to 24, but I'd hate to risk it and miss out on both #27: Deandre Baker/Byron Murphy #35: Nasir Adderly #106: Te'von Coney or Ben Burr Kirven: Different style linebackers, but both would add talent to our LB core for different reasons. Coney is going to be a fine Mike in the league in BBK would make a top shelf WLB. BBK would be my preference honestly #140: Bryce Love: forgotten man this year. Would be fine with starting him on IRR if his knee is an issue. Richard is only only on a one year deal. or Former #4, #24 and capitol from trade back: * Sweat * Ferrell 27: Deandre Baker/Byron Murphy #35: Nasir Adderly #106: Te'von Coney or Ben Burr Kirven: #140: Bryce Love: I'd love either scenario to be honest. We'd have a great D-line and D-backfield (I'd almost go with elite if we got Adderly). Would have a more talented linebacker core (not fully confident that each of Burfict, Marshall and Whithead will pan out this year). TE still glaring weakness, but I'm okay with that at this time. I'm also comfortable with Grant and Nelson as our WR# 3/4.
  7. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Titans grabbing him would be my guess. Seattle and Ravens would almost certainly let him slide. Seattle has a breakout kid in Dissley with Ed Dickson there too. Ravens drafted two young TEs last year pretty highly. Texans... I have no idea what they’re likely to do.
  8. 2019 NFL Draft V4

    Calling my shot. I'm guessing Oliver to TB at 5 and McCoy get moved for a later pick
  9. David Johnson-good buy low next year?

    Agreed. Too early to tell at this point, but my plan is to get one of the high end RBs in the 1st and targeting DJ, Cook and Mixon in the 2nd (in that order). I think all three will get you solid RB 2 numbers (disregarding injury risks) as a floor and have a high ceiling of a RB1.
  10. 2019 NFL Draft V4

    Not sure if your message was directly in response to my quasi-mock. Just want to clarify a point I was making. I think J Allen is a fine pass rusher, hence why I initially drafted him at #4 as a DE. The point I have been trying to make is that what makes J Allen more special compared to say M. Sweat is his versatility to play in space (I wan't saying he's limited as a pass rusher). Since we need pure DE, there's more value in trading back, getting an equally talented DE and getting more draft capitol. Since Fanspeak doesn't allow trades (the free site version), I ran into a scenario where I drafted essentially 3 DEs. It so happens that J Allen would make an exceptional SLB too and our base-end would also make for an exceptional pass rushing DT. This allows us to bring Key into the picture as a pass down specialist.
  11. 2019 NFL Draft V4

    Playing around with Fanspeak and Trojans mock got me thinking. I have been somewhat down on Allen these past months as I've felt that we could potentially get an elite 4-3 end with a small trade-back and that Allen's strength lies in his versatility. Also I've always felt that a SLB not usually top 5 worthy. However, in the simulator I ran into a what I felt was a pretty interesting scenario (plus I think is a pretty realistic draft scenario too). 4th: Josh Allen: SLB/DE 24th: Deandre Baker (or Murphy/Greedy etc): CB 27th: Zach Allen: DE/DT 35th: Chase Winovich: DE 106: Ben Burr Kirven: WLB Basically the idea is that Josh Allen is drafted as our premier pass rusher at 4. However, as the draft progresses we end up getting a base end like Zach Allen or Gary (if he falls to to 24th) that can move to DT on passing downs along with another DE in the 2nd. This allows Key to be used as pure situational pass rusher when Z Allen (Gary) moves inside. J Allen would start on regular downs basically as a SLB with pass rush potential and play DE on pure passing downs. This allows us to push Lee into a backup roll, where he really should belong. I added BBK in the 4th as he'd makes an ideal chase LB. Gives us a little flexibility in case Marshall/Burfict/Whitehead struggle and adds some speed to the lb core. He'd make for a pretty dang good pass down specialist too. Front seven on regular downs would be something DE Winovich DT: Hankins/Ellis DT: Hurst/Hall DE: Zach Allen SLB: J Allen MLB: Burfict WLB: Marshall/Whitehead? Passing Downs DE J Allen DT: Z Allen DT: Hurst DE: A Key MLB: Marshall WLB: BBK I think our base and pass defense would be pretty dang solid...
  12. 2019 NFL Draft V4

    I'd hate to move up for Murray. I just have a funny feeling it'd be Bo Jackson Karma. I can't justify that high of a pick on a kid who loves another sport as much as he does.
  13. 2019 NFL Draft V4

    Like the outside thinking, but I'd have issues. Teams that win by high scoring offenses need to have a really good pass rush. I'm assuming your thinking that Allen moves inside on passing downs. A pass rush of Polite, Allen, Hurst and Key would be a big improvement, but I'm not sure it's enough. I think we need at least one high end DE (plus I still think Polite goes in the 2nd).
  14. 2019 NFL Draft V4

    A couple months ago I was down on Sweat (and went so far as to say that'd I break my TV if he was picked at 4) as I was extremely worried about his ability to set an edge at his weight/frame. I've now completely reversed my opinion as he showed that he proved he can add bulk when he came into the combine at 260 and maintain his ridiculous athleticism. At a lean 260, and put up the combine numbers he did... that's crazy. He could still continue to add weight and not lose much if any explosiveness. I freely admit I was wrong and am backpedaling enormously on previous comments. I was at one-time higher on Gary as I felt his freaky athletic ability would translate to the NFL game and found myself making excuses for his production. However, when comparing Sweat and Gary, I've come to the conclusion that Sweat has more upside athletically along with a proven history of producing at an extremely high rate. For what it's worth I'm leap frogging Sweat above Ferrell and Gary. Now here is the question. Can someone pose an argument as to why Josh Allen makes a better DE than Sweat? Josh Allen seems like an all world talent as a rush LB and a really good DE, but is DE his best fit? It seems to be that it's his versatility in being able to rush and play in space that makes him so valuable. Seems a waste to me to draft him and plug him into a full-time 4-3 end spot when Sweat could be drafted slightly later with added capital.
  15. 2019 NFL Draft V3

    I might be alone, but I’d love to still use a high draft pick and take AJ Brown. Dudes a tank and has alot of experience in the slot. Take Jordy out in 2 WR formations. We have two super old dudes at WR, can’t let that hinder us in drafting a young stud, can’t see Jordy sticking around for many more years.