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  1. So it’s a simple question. Basically what I’m wondering is, do you think we’re far enough along in the rebuild to consider moving next year’s first, if a great opportunity is available? For instance, I was thinking about how crazy it would be to watch Andrew Thomas fall into the 20’s, and how disappointing it would be for him to go elsewhere, even if we landed Ruggs or Kinlaw at 15. Obviously it would take a perfect situation. A team willing to move. The right player falling far enough. Teams matching up on future pick value (I’ve heard of future picks being valued anywhere in the top 10 of the current year’s next round. So a 2021 1st would be worth anywhere from this year’s picks 33-42. That’s a pretty decent gap to bridge.) I know it was a long time ago, but we traded a future 1st for pick 37 (let’s not think about it too much), and we moved down from 25 to 75ish for a future 1st (when WSH picked Campbell). But anyways. Are we good enough to take a major swing like that?
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    The left side looks real questionable right now.
  3. Free Agent Frenzy

    I hate that I knew what you’re talking about.
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    Philly sucks. They play in a garbage division though, so they’ve got that going for them.
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    Thomas starts day one at RG with Glasgow sliding to C. We love that pick. Hitting our two biggest needs with good values at the next picks is perfect. Another WR would be good, but best 3-4 DL available would be my preference. Nose or end, we’ll need contributors at both spots by 2021.
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    I’d be really surprised if Jefferson was there at 22. I love him, though. I’ve been watching him more and holy cow, the guy loves playing in the dirty areas. And STRONG hands. If the board falls badly for us and he’s the pick at 15, it wouldn’t take me long to talk myself into liking it. But if that trade down happened and we got Jefferson+Murray, I’d cry the happiest tears.
  7. Free Agent Frenzy

    Shaq Barrett is very much not better than Clowney. I’ll take Clowney’s all-around game over Shaq’s pass rush any day. Also, with Eli Apple a free agent again, is he worth a look? I thought he looked like a completely different guy in NO when he was allowed to play close to the line of scrimmage. He was supposed to get $6M in LV, but now that the market is dried up, is he worth a call in the $3-4M range? A one year bet on him being able to limit his penalty problem might be worth a shot? Would remind me of a similar bet we made on Rodgers-Cromartie all those years ago. If it worked out like that again, aces.
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    82% of defensive snaps, 15 starts. I don’t think he was very good though.
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    I don’t think anyone is saying that we shouldn’t take one of the top 3 WR’s if they’re available at 15. I certainly am not. Just that trading up (for ANYONE) while a) we still have significant needs at multiple positions, and b) we’ll be in a spot to address one of those needs if we stay put at 15 doesn’t seem prudent.
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    I was having this conversation with a buddy the other day (not the Ted Ginn comp, which I think is pretty appropriate). Ruggs isn’t a foundational offensive piece, ie. he won’t be a guy to build an offence around. But he’ll be the type of guy that turns a good offence into a GREAT offence. He’ll be the equivalent of an elite closer in baseball: not someone a rebuilding team has much use for, but someone who can be the final piece to a Super Bowl contender. (I think we’re far enough in our rebuild to pick him at 15.)
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    Maybe in the later rounds, but other than Josh Jones and Austin Jackson, any OT drafted between about 20-65 will be a serious reach.
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    Picks 20-45 will be ripe with WR’s and CB’s, but the drop-off after the top 4 OL is steep. If we want to address the hole in the OL, it might be prudent to grab Thomas at 15, and then catching an outside skill guy at 46. But again, in that scenario, you need to be okay with not getting a WR until the 3rd. And Thomas will be available at 15. Daniel Jeremiah has him ranked 17, Kiper and McShay both at 18, Matt Miller has him 23rd. Pretty clearly the consensus 4th OT, which I think is crazy. Lucky for us though, as he’s also the most likely to be a great OG from day one.
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    If you’re absolutely hellbent on getting a WR, a trade-up makes some sense. I guess I’m just not really there. Receiver is our #1 need, I don’t think there’s any question about that, but I think our passing game improves (at least over anything Lock had to work with in his starts) with Fant gaining experience/confidence, the addition of Gordon as a legit safety valve, and the hiring of Shurmur. Add another stud like Thomas on the interior line and you’ve done everything else you needed to to make this offence purr. I disagree on the ‘17-60 is equal’ thing, as well, even when it comes to WR. We all agree on the top 3 going in the first 15 picks, but to me, there are a couple of pretty clear tiers after that. Picks 15-30, there’s three more guys I like (Jefferson, Higgins, Aiyuk), and then another tier from 30-50 of Shenault, Pittman, Mims, and Reagor. I mean, just generally speaking, zeroing in on one position isn’t the way to go (unless your trenches are bad, in which case you gotta solidify those first.) We’ve got other needs that are important as well. CB is huge, as we are missing an outside starter, and Callahan’s foot is a concern. Casey and Harris could be gone in 2021, which would leave our DL woefully thin again. We’re missing a starter on the OL (a battle between Schlottmann, Morris, and Wilkinson doesn’t fill me with confidence), and we’ve got no backup tackles. Todd Davis has played 82% of the defensive snaps the last two years, and he could surely be upgraded. We’ve only got two safeties, and one is on a franchise tender. If we want the window to legitimately open next season, we need 3-4 big hits in this draft, not just one receiver.
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    But you should be looking at tiers. Like, where are the drop-offs in talent? Are you prepared to give up 3.77 or 3.83 for what could amount to a very marginal upgrade? If the QB’s stay on the board, and we’re looking at the Jefferson/Murray/Henderson/etc tier, yes, moving up to get a Thomas/Kinlaw/Ruggs makes a world of sense. But assuming at least 3 QB’s go top 10, we’re already in the Thomas/Kinlaw/Ruggs range. I’d be much more interested in using some of that ammo in the 3rd to move up from 2.46 into the early 30’s, or package a couple of them to get somewhere in the 50’s. Also, I can’t see a trade up to 12 without the Raiders charging premium pricing, either.
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    If you trade up, you wanna get to the top of what could be the run on WR’s. If you’re trying to move up for the last one, odds are you’re paying premium pricing. And premium price for 12 is probably the regular rate for 11, where you’re also more likely to get your preference, as opposed to what’s left.
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