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Andrew Thomas was out there doing his best Ereck Flowers impression. Pretty scary performance from him.

Unlike Mac, Benjamin is perennially stuck in the bulk stage of bulk and cut.

I think Rudolph and Toilolo carry their weight differently than Benjamin. He was never going to be a blocking TE, so maybe team wanted the option to flex him out wide? At 268 that isn't happening. Dude was closer to being a swing tackle than WR. If you show up 17 pounds overweight, you don't have the right to be mad at anyone but yourself. And to claim you added muscle mass is just lol. Who are you kidding? Just another chapter in the saga of Benjamin eating his way out of the league. Your old GM throws you a bone and gives you another chance, and this is how you respond?

Football is back baby! I love reading the training camp reports, even though history has shown that they're less meaningful than we think.

Good measure of pass protection. Yes Daniel Jones held onto the ball too long at times and deserves blame for getting sacked. But the offensive line was the worst in the league even when that is accounted for..

Relevant to this discussion

I would be curious to see the stability of PFF's O-line grades from year to year. Even more interesting would be to see the average improvement from the rookie season to the sophomore season. The Giants will have three sophomores starting on the O-line this year. A lot is riding on them

Nope

I'm partial to expected points added (EPA) as a metric. If you want to learn more about it, here is a good resource. http://insidethepylon.com/football-101/glossary-football-101/2019/10/25/glossary-entry-expected-points-added/

Statistically they were average along with the Eagles. But the Giants have a better defense on paper after adding Adoree Jackson, Azeez Ojulari, and returning Xavier McKinney. They've assembled a top 5 secondary on paper, which is the way to do it in today's passing league. Since the Eagles lost out on the Adoree Jackson sweepstakes their #2 CB is Avante Maddox, and Darius Slay hasn't exactly play like probowl Darius Slay since he's been with the Eagles. That's not a secondary I would feel comfortable with.

You're vastly overrating the Eagles offensive talent, and underrating the Giants. PFF came out with WR and RB rankings yesterday. WR : Giants #11, Eagles #30 RB : Giants #12, Eagles #27 Jalen Hurts showed bad accuracy last season. His completion percentage over expectation (CPOE) was one of the worst in the NFL last year. I've explored this before, and a rookie QB's CPOE correlates relatively well with his career CPOE. This means that we can judge how good of a passer a QB is, just from a rookie season. Obviously there is some degree of error, and some QBs buck the

He would certainly be in the negative for separation +/-. His saving grace is that he has size and that he's great in contested ball situations.

I bolded the one accurate statement you made in that paragraph.