Gmen

I don't think even the Browns are stupid enough to let another team influence who they take with the #1 pick. They'll take who they believe is the best QB in the draft.

That’s what has been most widely reported. But, there was a report recently claiming Giants coaches like Allen. Other reports the Giants spent significant time with Rosen, and OBJ has been working out at UCLA. Other reports the Giants love Bradley Chubb. Barkley was spotted with a Giants hoody yesterday. What does it all mean!?? Nobody really knows. I said this in other threads, but I don’t like a trade down to 12. I’d trade down to 5 with the broncos and take Chubb or Barkley if we don’t plan on drafting a qb.

Way too much money for a guy averaging 10 yards per reception. OBJ is smiling somewhere, and not because his boy just got paid.

I feel bad for the guy. He's a big man physically, but imagine having a city of 8 million people crapping on you. He's still only 23 years old. It has to take a toll on your mental health. I'm in the minority, but I thought Flowers played well last year minus a couple games. The two interior guys that left to the NFCW for $40 million a piece weren't any better. I still think Flowers has a future in the NFL as a RT. Skipping team workouts isn't going to help though.

He’s a high character veteran first and foremost. The Giants had obvious lockeroom issues last year so these type of signings are welcome.

I feel like these rumors were drummed up by bored talking heads at ESPN.

I think trading down to #12 is too far, let alone #23 and #31. I prefer quality over quantity. If the Giants really don't like any of the QBs in this draft, I would look at what the Broncos have to offer. I'd move down to #5 and draft either Barkley or Chubb.

Put yourself in a time machine to two days ago before the trade happened. Would you have been on board with this trade before it happened? I believe the majority of Rams would have been opposed to trading the 23rd pick for Cook. And I say that based on some of the comments I read from you guys about potentially trading for OBJ If you weren't willing to give up more than the 23rd pick for OBJ (some weren't even willing to do that), I don't understand how you're suddenly okay with giving it up for Cooks. No offense to Cooks, but he's not in the same league as OBJ.

Maybe it’s because the giants have picked up a few former rams in the past couple of years, or maybe it’s because the rams have had so much roster turnover in general, but i’ve noticed rams fans in particular love to drink their teams cool aid. It’s common among fans, but it seems particularly strong amongst rams fans. Whoever their team dumps is a bum, whoever it brings in is going to be a stud. A few days ago they were discussing whether the 23rd pick for OBJ is a good deal. Instead they get the ~20th best receiver in the league, and it seems the majority of them are on board. Nobody seems to even question why two of the more prolific offenses in the league traded him away.

You’d be head over heals if the Rams traded for OBJ too. We as fans convince ourselves that whatever move our team makes is going to make our team better. It’s part of being a fan and it happens to everyone. The Giants draft someone I’ve never heard of, I go watch a couple highlights, and I’m all in - until two years later when that player is being replaced by a newer, younger, most definitely better draft pick. It’ll happen this year too. Whichever QB the Giants take at #2, I will convince myself is the best QB in the class (not only because the Browns are known for drafting the wrong one). Bottom line - I’ll bet if Patriots fans came in here proposing this trade a week ago, they’d be laughed off the forum.

On a serious note, why didn’t the Rams just keep their first round pick, and tag Watkins? I think I’d rather have Watkins than Cooks.

How about this trade: Browns get: Patriots first and second round picks Patriots get: Pick #4 (Rosen won’t be there, but whatever) Giants get: Odell Beckham Jr

Here's a proposal I like : New York Giants get : OBJ Everyone else : Keeps their draft picks

So that’s the going rate for the ~20th best receiver in the league, for those dreaming about trading for a top 3 receiver.