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  1. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    Who's #1 on your draft board?
  2. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    McKinnon is a Shane Vereen clone. He's a good 3rd down RB. Not a game changer.
  3. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    Zeke was still impactful and his presence was undoubtedly felt when he was on the field. He's the single most important player on that offense. You mentioned Marshall and Engram. The thing is no matter how crazy the passing numbers get in this league, establishing the run and stopping the run are still the #1 priorities on offense and defense. A dynamic RB that keeps an extra man on the box and DBs eyes on him make life exponentially easier for everyone in the passing game. Btw I fully agree that we need to build up the trenches. But aside from the Notre Dame guys, there's a very small drop off in talent when it comes to 2nd and 3rd round lineman. We can definitely get solid OL at that point in the draft while still taking Barkley. I agree on Pugh. We can't afford to lose our only consistently good lineman. He's worth whatever he costs. I'd like to bring back Richburg as well if he can be had for a reasonable price.
  4. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    I would also be content with Nelson. But moreso if we traded down a couple spots at least. If you're picking at 2, you should really be getting the most impactful player possible. Barkley would impact the team in far more ways than Nelson. The fact that Dallas has studs on the o-line AND a serviceable backup RB in Morris yet their offense still struggled without Zeke goes to show how valuable he is. Just look at Daks numbers with and without Zeke. It's pretty staggering. Also, Orleans Darkwa managed to run for 750 on 4.4 ypc behind our "atrocious" line. Orleans FRIGGIN Darkwa. If he was getting carries all year he would've had a very solid year, and it likely would've opened up for our passing game, as well. If he could do that, imagine what a talent like Barkley could do in a similar situation. FYI You're all making solid points. I don't know all the answers, and enjoy reading everyone's perspective. At the end of the day, we all want the same thing... and that's to get the Giants back to their winning ways.
  5. Minute Mock 1/27 4 rounds

    Nice draft overall! I like that you hit all of our needs and got good value. Baker is my favorite QB in the draft, too. My only complaint is we could trade down a few spots and still grab him while simultaneously netting a Kings ransom. Someone is going to fall in love with Barkley or be desperate to grab Darnold or Rosen. I know mock drafts are tough to predict trades, so you did a good job keeping it simple. That's just what I think is the best move.
  6. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    I would be completely happy with this move. Reason is because Nelson is a blue chip prospect that should improve our o-line straight away and it nets us an extra high draft pick that should be another impact player. However, if we stay at 2 I truly believe Barkley is the best option for that spot. @bzane you are soured on RB in the 1st because of Wilson, but does that mean you are soured on OL in the 1st due to Flowers as well? There are busts and beasts at every position. You take the player that you believe will have the strongest impact on your team, especially if you're picking top 5. Whether it's a Pass Rusher, QB, OL, DL, RB, LB, or whatever... You take the most impactful player. It's not healthy to eliminate certain positions from your board. Great players impact games, no matter what position they play. Look at the impact Zeke has had on the Cowboys. Dak is a 3rd round QB that has looked like an All-Pro with Zeke and a below average QB without Zeke even with a "great" line. When he was out their whole offense suffered greatly - not just their running game. Yes, guys like Kamara, Hunt, Bell, D. Johnson have been found later in the draft. But that's the case with EVERY position. Dak, Wilson, Cousins, Brady, at QB. I can go through every position and find highly drafted busts and diamonds in the rough. I keep saying it, but Barkley is a generational talent. He's off the charts in every single category. Build, athleticism, character, instincts, durability. He's an A+ across the board. You draft him at 2 and he immediately makes our whole offense a lot better. You don't just pass on that kind of talent because you have a 1st round RB phobia.
  7. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    Barkley also has much better instincts as a runner. I understand what you're saying, given that they have similar physical abilities. But Barkley is better in literally every way.
  8. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    Look at it this way: Our offense needs more work than our defense, and the 3 biggest needs on that side of the ball are OT, RB, and QB. This draft does not have a blue-chip Tackle prospect or an obvious QB. It DOES have an elite RB prospect, though. I just can't see how we pass him up if we stay at #2. To those of you who think RB is a "luxury pick," look at the type of impact Fournette had in Jacksonville. Keep in mind that's also with a middling inconsistent QB at the helm. Barkley is an even better prospect and there's no reason he couldn't have a similar impact on our offense. This is a team that is probably at least 2 years away from being a winning team. That means we can grab more impact players in the next draft. But you gotta take the best players available.
  9. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    I second @Acgott It's practically impossible for any of us to know what we have with Webb. However, I will say that due to Shurmurs success with many QBs of various talent levels (Keenum, Bradford, Bridgewater), Webbs chances of being an effective starter at this level are certainly increased. Webb will have an opportunity to compete for the highest level QB job available next season. Whether that's QB1 or QB2. I think I remember DRC saying he can make all the throws. Regardless, that is something we already know he can do from his video. The question is how can he lead an offense? Does he read defense well? Does he have good pocket awareness? How is his accuracy? These are questions we simply can't know until we watch him take meaningful snaps in game situations.
  10. That's pretty awesome that he has a connection to our top 2 WRs, especially Odell. Odell could go down as one of the greatest if he has the right mentors in his life. Hopefully Tolbert can be one of them.
  11. Special Teams Coach: Thomas McGaughey

    Never heard of the new guy but FINALLY Quinn is gone. I have no idea how he's managed to avoid being fired for so long. It's about 7 years overdue.
  12. Vikings OC Pat Shurmer hired to be HC

    I tend to agree with you. I'll go with whatever Shurmur wants. If Spags is his guy I'm completely fine with that. I know the defense was horrific last year, but they were in basically the worst circumstances possible. With the horrible offense, drama throughout the franchise, and players being injured. It was a top 5 defense the year before when relatively healthy with all the same players. The players seem to love Spags and have a ton of respect for him. That being said, if they want to part wants I'm okay with that as well.
  13. Vikings OC Pat Shurmer hired to be HC

    Shurmur was OC under Spagnuolo in St. Louis. That's the only reason I'm asking. Do you think that will be the familiarity he's looking for? We shall see.
  14. Vikings OC Pat Shurmer hired to be HC

    If Shurmur gets the job, I think it means there's a good chance Spags stays on as DC if he's interested in it due to their connection from St Louis. How would you guys feel about that?
  15. Giants officially hire Pat Shurmur as HC for 5 years (Page 6)

    If Shurmur gets the job, I think it means there's a good chance Spags stays on as DC if he's interested in it due to their connection from St Louis. How would you guys feel about that?