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  1. WR Brandon Marshall to be released

    Oops. What's the cap hit?
  2. Glad it was caught now. Hopefully it heals properly the second time around. If he's back by TC then it's a non-issue. I fully expect him to be one of our Captains this year. If it were up to me, it would be Landon and Snacks as our defensive Captains.
  3. Predict The Pick v.2 - 2 - Giants

    I've been calling for Barkley for months and I'm not gonna change it now. I couldn't complain if it was a QB, though. Mayfield is my favorite in the draft and I think Darnold has the least risk associated with him out of the QBs so I'd be fine with him too. Barkley is my pick, though.
  4. 2018 Draft Prospects

    We have a thread talking about the #2 overall pick. But who are the guys you love for the rest of the draft? Here are some guys I would like in rounds 2-4 RB I really love this draft for RBs. Michel, Jones, Guice are my three favorites after Barkley. Then you have guys like Penny, Freeman, Johnson and several more who could be workhorses. EDGE Hercules Mata'afa, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Kemoko Turay WR Christian Kirk, Javon Wims, Dante Pettis DB Isaiah Oliver, Kyzir White (rangy FS) OL Will Clapp, Braden Smith What are some of the guys you like and why?
  5. Build a Defensive Tackle Challenge

    Do you mean one trait per player?
  6. Build a Defensive Tackle Challenge

    Putting Aaron Donald for any less than half of these categories is laughable.
  7. OBJ will not step foot on the field without new deal

    That's good value, too. I'd rather another pick instead of Coleman, personally.
  8. OBJ will not step foot on the field without new deal

    Ok, fine then how about this trade? NYG receives: CLE 1st round pick (#4 overall) CLE 2nd round pick (#33 overall) CLE 2nd round pick (2018) CLE receives: Odell Beckham Jr. NYG 3rd round pick (#66) Then we can grab Barkley and a QB
  9. OBJ will not step foot on the field without new deal

    It would cost at the very least a 2nd rounder to move from 2 to 1. So that essentially is 3 second rounders for Odell. We have no idea what the Giants want to pick... Or even the Browns for that matter. What we do know is Darnold is the clear cut #1 QB in this draft and the Browns would be idiots to pass him up. If the Giants have an opportunity to leap them and take their franchise guy for the next 15 years they do it.
  10. OBJ will not step foot on the field without new deal

    You love OBJ, I get it. I do too. But you're coming at this from an emotional perpestive. The biggest question here is; is paying a WR 18m/year a good move? His immature behavior is the secondary concern.
  11. OBJ will not step foot on the field without new deal

    After doing some thinking, I would do this trade: NYG receives: 1st round pick (#1 overall) 2nd round pick (#33 overall) 2nd round pick (for 2018) CLE receives: Odell Beckham Jr. 1st round pick (#2 overall)
  12. OBJ will not step foot on the field without new deal

    Just off the top of my head; the net incident, the boat trip, the dog peeing incident, tweeting he's not playing in the preseason. He has been fined 10 times for either violations of the NFL uniform policy or on-field behavior. None of those are a BIG deal (except the Norman incident.) It's just the fact it seems like he's always doing something new for the media to remind us all of how immature he is. I also never said it necessarily hurts the team. But that type of attention certainly doesn't help the team. It's like Mara said, he's just tired of answering questions about OBJs behavior. Is part of it the NY media? Absolutely. But Odell has control of his actions and he doesn't seem to care about the negative attention it brings onto the organization since he continues to do things that put his name in headlines for the wrong reasons. I also didn't say that this reason alone constitutes trading him. When you combine this with the fact that he's going to hold out for an astronomical amount of money, it certainly makes trading him an interesting proposition. Yes, he has been our whole offense. But that's only because of how dysfunctional we've been on that side of the ball - and that will have to change for us to be successful whether he stays with us or not. Look at all of the recent Championship teams and you'll see that elite WRs are luxuries, not a necessity. If you can get multiple high picks and/or a quality player while not having to dish out a massive contract then you have to seriously consider it.
  13. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    When was the last time a 25yo elite (top 3) receiver was traded?
  14. OBJ will not step foot on the field without new deal

    I'm actually not opposed to it. This is coming from someone who is a huge OBJ fan and supporter. I want him to be a lifelong Giant. But it seems like constantly making headlines for boneheaded behavior is just something that will always be part of the deal with him - combine that with the outrageous price tag he's going to demand and I can see it being a sound business decision to move him. As great of a player as he is, it's hard to justify paying a WR 16-18m/year, especially with the constant shenanigans.
  15. OBJ will not step foot on the field without new deal

    To be fair he's clearly using Landry as a reference point to say if he's worth a 4th then it's fair to grade OBJ as a high 2nd + Coleman. @brownie man I actually agree with you in regards to market trade value. But it's one of those instances where OBJ is more valuable to his team than his market value. The Giants would prob have to get at least a 1st rounder in return to make that trade. UNLESS, they are just completely fed up with him and are desperate to move him. Then I could see them accepting the offer you proposed or even LESS. I don't see that being the case, though.
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