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  1. How do you guys/gals feel about the draft?

    You made my response for me. Granted, to be fair, you have to look at my argument for moving up for a LB now the same as a QB then.
  2. How do you guys/gals feel about the draft?

    Vander Esch and Hubbard were far and away my top 2 players for the Steelers in that draft. Looking back, it's obvious if possible they should've moved up to take Vander Esch, no matter what it cost (within reason of course). Hubbard we won't really know about since he's playing DE instead of OLB, but I watched him a lot in college and I watched Watt a lot in college, and I think Hubbard = Watt 2.0 if he slimmed down 15 lbs to play LB again. I had higher grades on both of them than Edmunds for damn sure. I had them both as 1st rounders, and Edmunds was a 4th. The one thing I wondered about on Hubbard was the snap count. He seemed to think too much, and was maybe a little too assignment-oriented and making sure he didn't just go and have a guy blow right past him as we routinely saw Dupree do. It was slim pickings at ILB both of the last 2 years where we were picking. But you KNEW you tanked a season if you didn't improve ILB, so they should've traded up and not waited for someone to fall. Go back to the Cowher style of drafting where you need Polamalu at 13, trade up from 30 to get him (or w/e the numbers were). Don't just sit there and take 2nd rate scrubs as Tomlin and Colbert always have done. Disgusting. I loved Shazier when he was coming out too. I did question his size some, but he was actually #1 on my wish list that year, of all those available at the pick. I also wanted Odell Beckham Jr, Zach Martin, Taylor Lewan, and I have to admit I thought Justin Gilbert would be good too. Zach Martin is the only other player in the draft who was available that I would've considered at that pick. I just loved Shazier's range and explosiveness, and I tend to watch a lot of Ohio State so I saw lots of flashes. (No, I'm not an Ohio State fan, so I have no anti-Michigan sentiment clouding my judgment here lol) I don't believe that Bush's ceiling is higher than Shazier's of course. But I HOPE it is! Shazier had a damn high ceiling!
  3. How do you guys/gals feel about the draft?

    Oh come on man. That's laughable at best. There's a big difference in 4.3 vs 4.4, but lets conveniently leave that off since it doesn't fit your agenda. 1.5" in vert and 6" in broad isn't exactly chump change either. Standing reach is completely ignored in your analogy, but if he has 2 inches in standing reach to bat balls or w/e that's significant. Bush is a solid athlete, but he's not the freak that Shazier was. Shazier is literally better in every category, except weight.
  4. How do you guys/gals feel about the draft?

    Shazier was a lot more explosive/dynamic and a lot better. I hope Bush is better than what I saw. Shazier in college was a heck of a lot more impressive to me than Bush. Plus, as I said, they wasted a whole season by ignoring ILB last year. We have a closing window. They wasted a good chunk of it due to that. But yeah, lets take a 4th round S in 1 and a 3rd round WR in 2 instead lol. Could've easily packaged those up for Vander Esch and been done with it. Now we're short picks next year as well. Shazier could add weight. You aren't going to make up that inch plus. Length and speed are more important than weight.
  5. How do you guys/gals feel about the draft?

    I was referring to Vander Esch. I really liked him and Hubbard in last year's draft. I thought Hubbard = TJ Watt 2.0, and Vander Esch is everything I look for in an ILB. I'd take him over that runt from Michigan any day. Plus it wouldn't have tanked last season by having scrubs at ILB all year. Ignoring ILB last year was a disgrace.
  6. How do you guys/gals feel about the draft?

    I was not a fan of the draft at all, especially considering we traded up in 1, when we should've done so last year instead to fix the problem instead of ignoring it and could've taken a superior player to boot. IF Bush is more productive with us that he was in college, with actual splash plays, at least it will be salvageable, but as-is, not a fan at all. 1. Tiny LB with great range. Not a fan, but hopefully he's better here than in college. 2. Tiny WR with terrible measurables. Slow for his size, and his agility/COD are subpar as well. I know nothing about him other than that, so hopefully the writeup on him, comparing him to Emmanuel Sanders, is accurate and it's a good pick. He was projected as a 4-5 prior to the draft if I remember right. There were at least a handful of other WRs I would've taken over him at this point. 3. A really big CB, with solid measurables. His 4.50 40 is lackluster, but at 6'2" 192 with 33" arms and great COD/agility numbers for his size, he at least measures up ok. Probably the guy I'm hoping to see great things out of the most. I preferred Isaiah Johnson. 4. Very slow RB, that is a poor man's Conner if anything. Not the ideal pick at all. Myles Gaskin would've made a lot more sense. 5. Enormous TE that is very slow. Hopefully McDonald stays healthy. Slim picking at this point at TE, with all the remaining TEs that got drafted running almost as slow, so at least he's huge. Isaac Nauta I liked better though in what little I saw them. 6. Tiny DE/LB that might not have a real position, except ST's monster? He is really sudden, but I question whether he'll get stoned constantly due to his lack of size if he's used as a pass rusher. I liked watching him play and his play style, but I think he might lack adequate size to even make roster. The rest look like just depth to me.
  7. The Curious Case of OLB Bud Dupree

    Bud has, and always has had, a great burst, but that's about all he has. That's how I see him. Not a fan at all. But with that burst, of course there's potential to make a play on any given snap. Problem is he doesn't do it often enough.
  8. What I would've done

    I like that draft a lot. A heck of a lot more than what we actually got.
  9. What I would've done

    I agree. STs demon, ILB, nickel backer. That’s what I see Sutton’s future as
  10. What I would've done

    I took them as late as I could get them. Mack was a throw-in. I almost didn't take him there either to be honest. I thought about Vosean Joseph, the Penn State corner instead, Matt Gay, Ben Burr-Kirven, and Darius Slayton as well. Teams typically pass on guys that much for a reason (that we don't typically know about). Mack Wilson doesn't impress me much, and Pratt was taller, faster, just as heavy, and as a former S he should cover better. That was my thought process. Getting a coverage guy at ILB with more range and speed. As far as total hindsite, these were guys I liked prior to the draft, and this just shuffles around the draft order. I still don't know if I'm OTC if I could pass on Greedy Williams though. That would be tough. But supply and demand. No more elite OLB prospects after Sweat, but there were a few CBs with the same or better potential than Greedy.
  11. Well I'm basing it off him looking very pedestrian as a rookie, and not liking what I saw when I tuned into OK State games to scout Rudolph. I liked Rudolph a heck of a lot more than Washington. I have big reservations about both. I thought Washington was a big reach and a bad pick last year. He did nothing to change my mind, but I hope he comes around and proves me wrong. Well, truth be told, my memory of Brown as a rookie is pretty fuzzy, but it seems like he was more explosive than Johnson even back then. I just hope Johnson isn't a tool like Brown turned into. I saw him morphing into a tool more and more each of the last 3+ seasons. I thought he was a great, stand up guy until his antics started overshadowing his talent.
  12. I saw a lot more quickness and explosion when I watched the arrogant piece of crap than I do with Johnson. Hopefully Johnson proves to be a good one. They drafted a dud last year in Washington, and I wonder if they did the same thing this year. I hope not.
  13. What I would've done

    Given how the draft fell, this is what I would've done. A trade up when Greedy fell to the mid 2nd would've been tempting if not for DK Metcalf also being available. 1. Montez Sweat, OLB, Mississippi State - too much potential to pass up here & frees up cap space by allowing you to cut Dupree next year. Greedy Williams was tempting here, but I like a few mid round CBs more than I like the other OLBs. 2. DK Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss - same as with sweat (Juan Thornhill was temping here) 3. Germaine Pratt, LB, NC State - athletic linebacker, without giving up so many picks 3. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida - a S/CB that can cover in the slot as well. Very dynamic athlete with lots of quick twitch. (Dawson Knox, Hakeem Butler and Miles Boykin were tempting) 4. Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston - my favorite CB prospect in the draft. raw, but checks every box unlike everyone else who lacks size or athleticism 5. Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama - getting another coverage linebacker here 6. Corey Ballentine, CB, Washburn - he checks all the boxes as a nickel corner or to match up against smaller, shiftier WRs. Sutton Smith was a bit tempting. 6. Rodney Anderson, RB, Oklahoma - an athletic RB that is injury prone, but as a situational/rotational guy that's not as bad 6. Jalen Jelks, OLB, Oregon - another developmental prospect here. I think he has the quickness and length to develop into a good one 7. Isaac Nauta, TE, Georgia - If they want a 4.9 TE, might as well go with this guy. I liked him when I saw him play. UDFA: Emmanuel Hall, WR, Mizzou - I can't believe he went undrafted. He's basically Mike Wallace 2.0 UDFA: Drew Lewis, LB, Colorado - Undersized but very athletic LB that ran a 4.52 at his pro day. He flashed with big play ability. UDFA: Chris Johnson, S, Northern Alabama - a small school safety with a high ceiling. 6'3" 200, 4.40 speedUDFA: Beau Benzschawel, OL, Wisconsin - depth that needs more strengthUDFA: Brandon Knight, OL, Indiana - same as BeuaUDFA: David Sills V, WR, West Virginia - red zone jump ball targetUDFA: Nick Fitzgerald, QB, Mississippi State - athletic QB that could develop into a 3rd stringerUDFA: Chase Hansen, S/LB, Utah - a tweener for subpackagesUDFA: Evan Worthington, S/LB, Colorado - he really impressed me at times with flashes.UDFA: Elijah Holyfield, RB, Georgia - a very violent runner for the tough yardsUDFA: Antoine Wesley, WR, Texas Tech - a long, lanky WR that absolutely dominated the only Tech game I watched liveUDFA: Gerald Willis, DT, Miami - good DL coach can get him to play to his strengthsUDFA: Mitch Hyatt, OG, Clemson - depth
  14. I'm giving it a C. ONE defensive back in the entire draft? ONE WR that I had to say "who the heck is this guy" when they drafted him. He's small and slow. A TE that runs a 4.9? A RB that is slower than molasses? Maybe those guys will turn out to be good, but I'm just indifferent towards it for the most part. Hopefully they're better than they appear without being too familiar with a lot of them. The only reason I'm giving it a C is because Bush should help the coverage across the middle a lot and Layne might be ok.
  15. Well, I've watched plenty of great centers play every Sunday for the last 30 years. A great center makes a huge impact on an offense. The Vikings have had their share of good ones. The difference is palpable when you go from good to bad, or from bad to good. Birk, Christy, Sullivan was ok, etc. I don't dispute that it's harder to find a great LT. Supply and demand is why they're paid more, and thus valuable. Not because they're significantly more important. I think a lot of that depends on scheme too. It would be a fairer comparison to ask if he'd hold up against Dexter Lawrence or Christian Wilkins (rookie DTs drafted close to where he was), rather than an NFL star or even just one like Clark that has had 3 years in an NFL strength training program & 3 years of NFL coaching. I have no idea there. This type of OL isn't really designed to block 1 on 1. It's zone blocking which means combo blocks. So you also have to account for the schematic fit. It's designed so athletic guys like him can get to the 2nd level and spring a back for a big play, and that's what he'll be great at. So we'll just have to wait and see. As I said before, I see a lack of power from him, but he's also a converted TE and hopefully he'll develop a better anchor in the NFL. I was impressed with O'Neill's right away, so maybe some technique/strength training worked wonders for him right away.