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  1. The TE Position

    I played one of those GM games on this site that year and I targeted and drafted him.
  2. The TE Position

    I wanted Bears to draft him.
  3. The TE Position

    Pretty sure he can't block, but he looks to me like a dynamic receiver.
  4. Evaluating Pace

    Biggest Pace hindsight mistakes that doomed him in 2019: 1) Passing on Mahomes and drafting MT. 2) Drafting White and Floyd. 3) Not investing in better offensive tackles and settling for Massie and Leno time and again. How your O line goes so goes your offense - most of time. Unless you have a quick thinking QB who can overcome. Those are rare. 4) Resigning Long to large contract instead of leaving off him much sooner. 5) Continuous disastrous decisions at TE position - notably Sims, Burton and Shaheen. Then not addressing obvious TE need in 2019 offseason.
  5. Evaluating Pace

    Bottom line really unless Bears somehow flip the script in 2020 is Bears (Pace) passed on Watson and Mahomes in 2017. That's all history will remember.
  6. Evaluating Pace

    In fairness it was a rebuild from a long time of bad decisions and 2018 was a good year and 2019 and 2020 were supposed to be the climax. So not counting this year, it was an upward pointing arrow. He got hit with a perfect storm of everything that could go wrong did go wrong. But you are correct in results speak for themselves.
  7. Evaluating Pace

    So now we have info. Lets break it down: Largest decisions IMO to be evaluated and graded on in order of importance. This is hindsight grading. I'll note many decisions were not seen as bad at time, but turned out bad and that is ultimately what you get graded on: 1) Tie: MT trade and selection and Khalil Mack trade. MT trade turns out to be F-. MT is looking like a for sure bust. Still a small percent chance that he turns it around. But it's like 1- 4% given injuries and play of him and team. Mack trade on its face still looks good, but light of handcuffs it puts on Bears to fix QB position it looks like a huge mistake in hindsight. Really tough to grade in light of our particular current circumstance. Only way to dig out may be to see if someone else with a QB wants to make a blockbuster trade for Mack. I'll give it an incomplete. 2) Roquan Smith, Leonard Floyd and Kevin White (because they were top 10 picks). Kevin White - bust. Floyd - bust. Roquan Smith mostly good, but really bad stretch this year with personal issues. Also notable that Tremaine Edwards and Vander Esch have also been good. I'll give it a D- overall. 3) Resigning Leno, Whitehair and Massie. All 3 are playing like F garbage this year. I still think Whitehair is a talented and very good football player. I do not think he is a center. I think Massie and Leno are definition of average to below average, but they are paid like it. I'll give it a C. 4) Free agents: Rolle, McPhee, Massie, Trevathan, Freeman, Hicks, Larsen, Wheaton, Glennon, Demps, Sims, Prince, Burton, Robinson, Gabriel, HHCD, Skrine, Davis, Patterson Trevathan, Hicks, Prince, Robinson, HHCD, Skrine have performed to contracts or much above contracts. Rolle, Freeman, McPhee, Larsen, Glennon, Demps, Sims, Burton, Wheaton were busts. Massie, Patterson and Gabriel have been okay. I'll say C- overall. 5) 2nd round picks - Daniels, Miller, Goldman, Whitehair, Shaheen Shaheen is a bust. Daniels and Whitehair I think are very talented players having an abberational horrible year in 2019 so they are tough to grade. Miller I think is talented and has not had QB play to match, but has also done a lot of really dumb things. Also tough to grade. Goldman was a hit. Because I have believe Whitehair has performed and Daniels will still be very good and was good last year and Goldman was good I will give this group a solid B. 6) 3rd and 4th round picks - Grassu, Langford, Bullard, Kwik, Bush, Hall, Jackson, Cohen, Iggy Jackson and Cohen although playing subpar in 2019 and still considered really big hits. Especially Jackson. Rest are busts with Kwik and Bush being average. For round consideration I'll give it a B+. 7) Kicker F. FA signing of Parkey was disaster. I think Pinerio can be good, but is obviously not playing well at moment. 8) Everything else and diamonds in rough. I'll give it a B+. Pace finds a lot of good late rounders and UDFAs with high upside. CONCLUSION: Bears are on a precipice. 2018 was a very good year. 2019 was a year of huge expectations to build off 2018 and obviously has been a disaster. They have to fix O line, TE and QB in one off season without a ton of cap space or draft picks. They are also looking at losing some key players and defensive depth. I think Pace and Nagy get 2020 for sure. It's not looking good. The key was Mitch Trubisky who did not take the hoped for step. I think its possible he would have been good to better if O line and TEs didn't completely go in crapper this season, but we will never know. He has not taken advantage of opportunities he has had with good blocking. I think odds are its a failed regime and we will have to wait until next rebuild. It's still possible to recover as there are still some very talented players on the roster, but it's a long shot.
  8. Evaluating Pace

    Largest decisions IMO to be evaluated and graded on in order of importance: 1) Tie: MT trade and selection and Khalil Mack trade. 2) Roquan Smith, Leonard Floyd and Kevin White (because they were top 10 picks). 3) Resigning Leno, Whitehair and Massie. 4) Free agents: Rolle, McPhee, Massie, Trevathan, Freeman, Hicks, Larsen, Wheaton, Glennon, Demps, Sims, Prince, Burton, Robinson, Gabriel, HHCD, Skrine, Davis, Patterson 5) 2nd round picks - Daniels, Miller, Goldman, Whitehair, Shaheen 6) 3rd and 4th round picks - Grassu, Langford, Bullard, Kwik, Bush, Hall, Jackson, Cohen, Iggy 7) Kicker 8) Everything else and diamonds in rough.
  9. Evaluating Pace

    2015 Offseason Biggest signings: WR Eddie Royal, DB Antrel Rolle, OLB Pernell McPhee, DT Ray McDonald, LB Mason Foster Biggest re-signings: TE Zach Miller, QB Jimmy Clausen 2016 Offseason Biggest signings: LB Danny Trevathan, OT Bobby Massie, CB Tracy Porter, LB Jerrell Freeman, DL Mitch Unrein, WR Marc Mariani, DL Akiem Hicks, S Omar Bolden, OL Ted Larsen, OL Josh Sitton Biggest re-signings: TE Zach Miller, CB Sherrick McManis 2017 Offseason Biggest signings: WR Markus Wheaton, QB Mike Glennon, DB Quintin Demps, TE Dion Sims, WR Kendall Wright, OL Tom Compton, DB Marcus Cooper, DB Prince Amukamara Biggest re-signings: DB Bryce Callahan, WR Josh Bellamy 2018 Offseason Biggest signings: WR Allen Robinson, WR Taylor Gabriel, K Cody Parkey, QB Chase Daniel, TE Trey Burton, OLB Aaron Lynch Biggest re-signings: CB Kyle Fuller, CB Prince Amukamara, P Pat O'Donnell, CB Sherrick McManis Khalil Mack Trade 2019 HHCD, Mike Davis, Marvin Hall, Ted Larsen, C. Patterson, B. Skrine, resigned a bunch of players.
  10. Evaluating Pace

    Notable UDFA: 2015 Bryce Callahan 2016 Roy Robertson-Harris and Ben Braunecker 2017 Rashaad Coward Isaiah Irving 2018 Abdullah Anderson Ryan Nall Kevin Toliver
  11. Evaluating Pace

    Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2019 3 David Montgomery 73 RB 2019 0 0 1 0 10 143 497 5 19 152 0 Iowa St. 2019 4 Riley Ridley 126 WR 0 0 0 Georgia 2019 6 Duke Shelley 205 CB 2019 0 0 0 0 4 Kansas St. 2019 7 Kerrith Whyte, Jr. 222 RB 0 0 0 Florida Atlantic 2019 7 Stephen Denmark 238 CB 0 0 0 Valdosta St. Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2018 1 Roquan Smith 8 ILB 2019 0 0 2 9 25 2 5.0 Georgia 2018 2 James Daniels 39 C 2019 0 0 1 5 26 Iowa 2018 2 Anthony Miller 51 WR 2019 0 0 0 4 25 1 1 8 0 0 7 25 0 56 695 7 Memphis 2018 4 Joel Iyiegbuniwe 115 LB 2019 0 0 0 1 25 Western Kentucky 2018 5 Bilal Nichols 145 DT 2019 0 0 1 5 21 3.0 Delaware 2018 6 Kylie Fitts 181 DE 2018 0 0 0 0 6 Utah 2018 7 Javon Wims 224 WR 2019 0 0 0 0 14 11 113 1 Georgia Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2017 1 Mitchell Trubisky 2 QB 2019 0 1 3 20 35 661 1046 6996 40 23 124 727 5 North Carolina 2017 2 Adam Shaheen 45 TE 2019 0 0 0 1 27 26 249 4 Ashland 2017 4 Eddie Jackson 112 S 2019 1 1 3 20 40 8 1.0 Alabama 2017 4 Tarik Cohen 119 RB 2019 1 1 1 16 42 2 3 22 2 0 224 930 5 167 1329 9 North Carolina A&T 2017 5 Jordan Morgan 147 G 0 0 0 Kutztown Pennsylvania Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2016 1 Leonard Floyd 9 OLB 2019 0 0 4 20 48 1 18.5 Georgia 2016 2 Cody Whitehair 56 G 2019 0 1 3 20 58 Kansas St. 2016 3 Jonathan Bullard 72 DT 2019 0 0 1 7 54 3.0 Florida 2016 4 Nick Kwiatkoski 113 ILB 2019 0 0 0 10 51 1 5.0 West Virginia 2016 4 Deon Bush 124 S 2019 0 0 0 4 48 1.0 Miami (FL) 2016 4 Deiondre' Hall 127 CB 2018 0 0 0 2 23 1 Northern Iowa 2016 5 Jordan Howard 150 RB 2019 0 1 3 21 56 897 3895 30 82 637 2 Indiana 2016 6 DeAndre Houston-Carson 185 S 2019 0 0 0 2 42 William & Mary 2016 7 Daniel Braverman 230 WR 2016 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 West. Michigan Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ 2015 1 Kevin White 7 WR 2018 0 0 0 2 14 1 9 0 25 285 0 West Virginia 2015 2 Eddie Goldman 39 DT 2019 0 0 4 24 62 12.5 Florida St. 2015 3 Hroniss Grasu 71 C 2018 0 0 1 7 17 0 2 0 Oregon 2015 4 Jeremy Langford 106 RB 2018 0 0 0 8 29 219 762 10 41 421 1 Michigan St. 2015 5 Adrian Amos 142 S 2019 0 0 5 20 70 4 2.0 Penn St. 2015 6 Tayo Fabuluje
  12. Positives

    No. But he won't last behind that O line. He will get frustrated and start throwing picks and then get hurt. Hahaha.. I wrote above on Sept. 18th. It was still sitting in Editor never posted when I went to check this old thread where I look mostly like a fool - although I hedged everything I said. At least I rightly predicted bolded part so I'll repost it. I have been right about other teams and players this year. Just totally wrong about our team.
  13. How do we fix the QB in 2020

    Arizona had number one pick too. Changes things when you can pick from anyone.
  14. How do we fix the QB in 2020

    Arizona did. Right though it is super rare.
  15. Thoughts Going Forward

    To me MT was disappointing, but I knew that was a distinct possibility. The crushing disappointing of 2019 has been the O line play. This has been just beyond awful for their talent level. I have seen worse Bears O lines, but none that under achieved like the 2019 group.
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