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  1. Who's The Greatest Player of All Time?

    we are talking about the greatest player here. not who is the best player in his position with the widest margin. we don't mention Adam Vinatieri in the GOAT discussion. even if Jerry rice is better at his job than brady's, he can't be greater than brady simply because of the position he plays. having said that the gap between brady and #2 QB is far greater than the gap between jerry rice and #2 WR. and it's absurd to disregard the playoff bulk stats. playoffs are where the legends are born. it's always about the playoffs.
  2. Who's The Greatest Player of All Time?

    no just no. can't have WR as #1 especially he's not even the best WR. moss is great, but pats has proven that you don't need an elite WR to win the SB. if this was about who has the most god given talent? now that's a whole new debate and moss should be in the discussion. but not the NFL goat. moss wouldn't even make top 20 in my list.
  3. Who's The Greatest Player of All Time?

    in this era, it's always been 1a/1b until ronaldo distanced himself from messi. it's alot like brady/manning situation. and Messi isn't considered the GOAT. pele, og ronaldo, maradona, cristiano ronaldo is ahead of him. If Messi won a world cup or two? now that debate makes sense. it's not fair, but that's how it is in soccer. it's always been the world cup or bust. that's why argentinians will never put messi ahead of maradona. and unlike any soccer player maybe except pele, brady has been crowned as undoubtly the GOAT of his sports. no soccer player will ever come close to brady simply because there are so many leagues so many great players in the soccer and there simply will never be a consensus GOAT unlike NFL.
  4. Who's The Greatest Player of All Time?

    many believe ronaldo is better than messi. i think both are equal peers. they are brady/manning 10 years ago. brady stands alone in his sports. nobody comes close. at least not anymore.
  5. Who's The Greatest Player of All Time?

    gretzky has nothing on brady IMO. IMO gretzky is behind brady and jordan. contrary to belief greztky has his equals in orr and howe at least in many NHL diehards point of view. brady has no equal IMO.
  6. Who's The Greatest Player of All Time?

    the debate was over 5 years ago. brady put together 3 HOF career. HOFer from 01-07. HOFer from 09 to 14. HOFer from 15 -19 and counting not only brady is the greatest football player of all time, i believe he is the greatest player in all of team sports. it's an honor to watch brady.
  7. AFC Championship: Patriots vs. Chiefs

    what a game. what a drive. wow. GOAT of all GOATs
  8. AFC Championship: Patriots vs. Chiefs

    NFL's future is bright. mahomes gonna dominate the next decade.
  9. AFC Championship: Patriots vs. Chiefs

    too much time left. this is far from over.
  10. AFC Championship: Patriots vs. Chiefs

    this is mahomes young peyton manning moment. he'll be back.
  11. Unbreakable Record: 8 Consecutive CC Title Games?

    pats have 12 draft picks. and looks like pats are built to be a solid running team for a long haul which will help aging brady. can brady's final year be similar to elway's? i think it can happen.
  12. Can you argue this QB list post-1980?

    Elway to me is Big Ben of his era. i always viewed as #3 QB behind montana and marino. and honestly i liked jim kelly more than elway up until elway finally came through and won those 2 rings to cement his legacy. from eye test perspective he was a great talent for sure and just had a natural ability to thrive in a pressured situation. if he had shanahan all his career maybe his mediocre stats would've looked better. i'm ok, with him being top 10 in this list, but i have a problem with those denver fans who swear elway is better than montana or marino. yes, there are enough people who believe that. i know this because i lived there.
  13. Media obsession with putting Rodgers in the GOAT convo

    i'm even getting bored with them and i've been a brady guy since his college days. what pats need is another 'gate'.
  14. Media obsession with putting Rodgers in the GOAT convo

    you can't really judge by the book cover. if that's the case then there will be a QB who is 6ft 6 240lb who can run like vick and throw like rodgers will destroy ever legacies, every accomplishments. there's nothing to debate because that guy can throw like rodgers in a cam newton body, and vick's feet. but what happens that guy never wins much and never does anything meaningful? all he does is wow you with his nice throws and puts up stats? is he still the GOAT? QBing is more than just throwing the football. Only objective of QB is to WIN. NFL is WIN league. It's not 160+ games like baseball. it's not 82 games. there's only 16 games. there's only so many games to play in. and every teams out there and every QBs ONLY care about the Ws. yes, it's a team game. but the greatest QB is the one who helps the team to win. because if they don't win the team draft the next guy. That's why I always respected Manning even though I'm a brady guy. and no you can't win them all. and yes, it's a team game. it's not fair for guys like archie manning. but it is what it is. life for QB ain't fair. Brady isn't brady if he is a .500 QB. manning isn't manning if he didn't even make the playoffs year after year. the greatest winner, that's my GOAT. win with style. win with less. win with more. win against the division. win against the best. win when things go wrong. win, win, win. and i'm not talking about the ones who hands the ball off to RBs either. he better be the man of the team. he better be the focal point. we aren't talking about the RBs or DEs. we are talking about the QB, the most important position of them all. i don't care if people call brady GOAT or not. i don't care if somebody calls brady a system qB. but call him the greatest winner of modern era. because on EVERY SUNDAY, i feel like pats and brady will win the game. every sunday i feel like pats should figure out and get the W. yall can debate who got the best deep throws or accuracy. i'll take the W. and give me brady over anybody else if i want to see W in my teams column.
  15. Drew Brees

    it's anybody's race, but mahomes is leading the pack. rivers, brees, goff, all have chance.