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  1. A quick message to all in here

    Keep fighting through the rough times man. Well wishes to you and yours.
  2. Walkthemock Drafts

    missed that point on Irv Smith... lol...
  3. Walkthemock Drafts

    I wish we could get pass rusher, but if they don't exist (and they don't really in my mind) then there are better options at other positions to acquire potential impact players. Outside of Bosa, Ferrell, and maybe Brian Burns I see the 43 DEs as JAGs.
  4. Walkthemock Drafts

    My latest mock from walkthemock.com for CLE via Default ranking 1:13 - WR D.K. Metcalf, Mississippi 2:13 - CB Amani Oruwariye, Penn St. 3:13 - TE Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri 3:29 - WR Marquise Brown, Oklahoma 4:13 - DL Gerald Willis III, Miami (FL) 5:6 - LB Shaquille Quarterman, Miami (FL) 5:13 - TE Irv Smith Jr., Alabama 5:29 - NT Olive Sagapolu, Wisconsin 6:13 - FB George Aston, Pittsburgh 7:2 - QB Trace McSorley, Penn St. 7:22 - RB Taiwan Deal, Wisconsin --------------- Did one, but like always these things seem not so realistic with their rankings. Would be a great draft if we were able to make these first 7 picks
  5. 2019 Draft Prospects

    Yeah we'll just have to agree to t disagree for now. Maybe I'll feel different after I watch Dax Raymond for the first time. I don't think our offense's dynamic changes by adding an in-line blocker with catch versatility as Orson Charles and Darren Fells take care of the blocking element although I understand the desire to want to confuse the defense regarding the play being pass or run (if Njoku's in it's likely a pass). The central thought behind the idea of elevating our offense to new heights is having a big bodied, fast, always open target with a huge catch radius as a match-up nightmare that Baker can trust and manipulate the defense off of. That's why adding a reliable target at TE this year would do wonders for us. Hockensen and Albert O all fit that need. Fant due to his athletic abilities has a greater upside. That paired with the consistency in catching in 2018 still has me thinking that Fant would be a worthy gamble in a trade down scenario from 15 to somewhere around 25. In terms of blocking imo Iowa forces Fant to block a great deal more than Njoku ever did. Furthermore, Fant has the necessary blocking awareness that Njoku does not have as Fant does not miss blocking assignments due to mental mistakes. Now, he's not a plus blocker and doesn't block with the dog in him like a Hockenson, but he's an average to solid blocker consistently and even better down the field. I myself mentioned the drops, and I know exactly the stretch of games you're talking about in 2017. It was actually even worse than a 3 game stretch as it was a 4 game catch. Fant showed enough improvement catching the ball away from his body and consistently catching it in 2018 for me to feel good about his progress. We'll see... maybe by draft time I'll be swayed toward other TE prospects even outside of Hockenson, Albert O, and Fant...
  6. 2019 Draft Prospects

    This. I posted something eerily similar but it didn't save. Overrated is a term that describes the discrepancy in the perception of the draft's pool quality in the minds of scouts/ personnel staffs versus the perception of the draft pool's quality in the general layman/fan as informed by draftnik media. It's all about who's perspective we're taking. In the scouting world, this draft is shallow in big time difference makers but deep in mid-2nd to 4th round developmental starters and/or quality contributors much like pre-draft opinions of the 2015 draft class.
  7. Walkthemock Drafts

    lol.. no joke .. I thought this was a general Mock/Offseason thread.... Read the OP and now realize that's a website... I'll check it out
  8. 2019 Draft Prospects

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  9. Walkthemock Drafts

    Off-Season: Part I. Free Agency 1.) WR Chris Conley: Coming out of college, he was one of the most gifted athletes at WR to set foot at the combine. His film and upside was only slightly less impressive. His abilities were suppressed by Alex Smith's inability to deliver targets down the field. The year Smith started to do so, Conley had a serious knee injury. He has a lot of AJ Green to his game in that he's can be a jump ball specialist or stretch the field. If he can return to form and health, he has WR1 ability but would make for a great WR2/WR1/Slot WR interchangeable piece based on personnel groupings. Conley is recovering from a knee injury and is under utilized in the chiefs offense as Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Sammy Watkins, and Kareem Hunt get the targets in the passing game. Dorsey's familiarity with him make this a great match in terms of our need and how his game fits in with the roster. 2.) DE Brandon Graham 3.) CB Steven Nelson 4.) QB Trevor Siemian 5.) TE Maxx Williams ---- Part II. The Draft 1.) Amani Orunwariye CB Penn State 2.) (Likely Trade Back into Bottom of the 1st) DK Metcalf WR Ole Miss // AJ Brown WR Ole Miss 3.) Christian Wilkins, DT Clemson // Gerald Willis III, DT Miami (FL) -- Both of these guys are likely to fall to the top of the 3rd for a wide-variety of reasons. Wilkins to most is the most unbelievable b/c people are seeing his name in the 1st and 2nd round of mocks; however, scouts have him more realistically in the mid-second to early 3rd range. 3.) T.J. Hockenson TE Iowa // Albert Okwuegbunana TE Missouri 4.) Emmanuel Hall WR Missouri 5.) Shaquille Quarterman LB, Miami (FL) 5.) Joe Bachie Jr., LB Mich. State 5.) Renell Wren, DT ASU 6.) Best RB Available 7.) BPA ------------------------- ------------------------ 2019 Roster Preview (Unbalanced & With No Cuts) Offense (?): Quarterbacks (3): QB: Baker Mayfield // Trevor Siemian // Drew Stanton ------------ Running Backs (3): RB: Nick Chubb // Duke Johnson // Devante Mays ------------ Fullback (1): FB: Orson Charles ------------ Wide Receivers (8): WR1: DK Metcalf // Emmanuel Hall // Antonio Callaway WR2: Chris Conley // Rashard Higgins // Breshad Perriman // Damion Ratley Slot-WR: Jarvis Landry // (Duke Johnson) Practice Squad: Derrick Willies ------------ Tight Ends (4): TE: David Njoku // T.J. Hockenson // Darren Fells // Maxx Williams ------------ Offensive Linemen (8): LT: Greg Robinson // (Desmond Harrison) LG: Joel Bitonio // (Austin Corbett) C: JC Tretter // Austin Corbett RG: Kevin Zeitler // Earl Watford // Kyle Kalis RT: Chris Hubbard // (Greg Robinson) ------------------------- Defense (?): Defensive linemen (10): DE: Myles Garrett // (Brandon Graham) // Chad Thomas // Chris Smith NT: Larry Ogunjobi // Carl Davis // Renell Wren DT: Christian Wilkins // Brian Price // (Chad Thomas as 3-Tech) // (Anthony Zettel) DE: Emmanuel Ogbah // (Genard Avery) // Brandon Graham // Anthony Zettel ------------ Linebackers (8): SLB: Christian Kirksey // Joe Bachie Jr. // Genard Avery MLB: Joe Schobert // (Joe Bachie Jr) // Ray Ray Armstrong WLB: Shaquille Quaterman // Tanner Vallejo ------------ Corner Backs (7): CB1: Denzel Ward // (Damarious Randall) // Tavierre Thomas CB2: Amani Orunwariye // Terrance Mitchell // E.J. Gaines NCB: Steven Nelson // (Briean Boddy-Calhoun) ------------ Free Safeties (2): FS: Damarious Randall // Briean Boddy-Calhoun ------------ Strong Safeties (2): SS: Jabrill Peppers // Derrick Kindred ------------ Specialists (?): Kicker (2): New Kicker Punter (1):Britton Colquitt; Long snapper (1):Charley Hughlett
  10. 2019 Draft Prospects

    Yeah... I've never seen Dax Raymond. I'll add him to the "To Watch List." Good stuff ... Thanks. Regarding Hockenson VS. Fant....... Hockenson is my 13th ranked player on my Brownscentric board while Noah Fant is 4th. So, I love love Hockenson as a prospect more so than anyone I have yet to encounter until just now talking to you. He is indeed an overall utility pass catcher/TE. When I say top 25 for Fant VS top 50 for Hockenson, that is approximately where I expect them to be drafted when it is all said and done. I had some make shift ranges for other players that I'm sure will change as the draft approaches. Similarly, although Amani Oruwariye CB, Penn State is my number 2 player, I expect him to go 15-30 range. I also had Hockenson in the group of players I had graded as late 1st to 2nd round picks. But let's turn to your points specifically though: 1.) Is Hockenson better than Fant at High-pointing and Natural Hands-Catching -- CHECK/YES .... 2.) Will he go dig out of the turf or make a play on the ball better than Fant -- CHECK/YES... There's no disagreement from me on that part. However, IMO Noah Fant is a player that the full context of all his snaps helps paint a picture of what he can likely be at the next level. All the plays you credit Hockenson for making Fant does so more often then not in 2018. He had a really bad drops and bobble string of games 4 games in 2017 and playmaking issues. The deciding thing for me is that when you ask the question: What can Noah Fant do that Hockenson and other TEs in the draft can't?? The separation in the prospects is clear. I've seen Noah Fant run 7 go-balls as a TE against Safeties and Cornerbacks and get behind them and separate as if he was a WR. I've seen him reach back across his body during a all out sprint to make a catch with body control and agility like a WR. That is the makings of an Elite Offensive Weapon at the pro-level. More importantly, if you get a chance go back and watch how many complex routes Fant has beyond 15 yards of LOS relative to Hockenson. His middle of the field route work is fantastic for a college player. If one believes Fants, abilities are not static and he can improve do to coaching than he's just the superior athlete and can make all extreme difficulty catches based on film however is not consistent Hockenson much like Albert Okwuegbunana is more of a complete TE than Fant. However, they both lack the dynamic movement ability and ability to open the field up for Baker through intermediate routes run with the route awareness and threatening speed defenses will have to account for with Fant. He's a big WR.and one that could be a game changer for our offense. I think a TE is the fastest way to take our Offense to the next level. Fant, Okwuegbunana, or Hockenson as our draft pick would have me thrilled as I love all 3 differently.
  11. @BleedTheClock I love Joe Bachie Jr.'s tape ... he looks special at times. Really good eye. I think his talent would make him a steal in the 5th. I really like DK Metcalf. I do wonder how his neck will check out at the combine. I love the idea of giving Baker a big reliable and athletic pass catcher. Gerald Willis has had tremendous production this year, but he is too inconsistent and all over the place with his technique, awareness, and functional strength IMO to be taken in the 2nd. He finds himself out of position so many times without a clue as to where the ball is that it's frustrating. It could be a coaching thing as well where helping him understand his keys and rush plan could harness his raw ability. I see him as more of a 3rd or 4th round prospect prospect. Anthony Barr would be an interesting chess piece, but at the price that he'll demand we may be better served investing elsewhere. I don't believe in Ja'Wuan James as an upgrade over Chris Hubbard at all.
  12. 2019 Draft Prospects

    Unfortunately, I'm afraid that this draft pool is not better than people are giving it credit for. People in the business think this draft class is on par with the dreaded 2015 draft pool except this one is deeper. It is an ugly ... ugly draft class when it comes to finding big time difference makers at various levels of the draft. A team like the Raiders with all their draft capital to their fan-base's detriment accumulated excess draft capital in the wrong draft year as such capital in prior years would be a game changer... this year.... not so much. IMO, the draft grades of the 16th and 20th best players on the board are/will be very similar to the grades on the 35th to 45th best player on teams boards imo. In 2015, I only really considered 5 players to be worthy of top-12 selections or true Tier 1, Immediate Starter, Pro-Bowl/All-Pro Impact grades. This year is similar. In my mind, this means One thing and One thing only:Trade down... then Trade down again ... and keep Trading down as much as you can thereby creating future value in what may amount to a more impactful draft class in future years while at the same time accumulating more draft capital this year to take more cracks at the plate in the draft gamble, as well as possess mid to late round picks that can be used to target a veteran player via trade. ======== Top-70 Board: **The Following is my ranking of the top 70 players or so that I've had a chance to watch. As the holiday approaches, I plan to catch up and study this draft class in more detail** I've Excluded the following players from my list: 1.) Players I have not watched or have only watched a limited sample size of film on making a evidenced-based opinion/evaluation impossible. 2.) Players that I like a lot but perceive as not being scheme fits (i.e., Dexter Lawrence, NT Clemson and Jachai Polite 34OLB Florida) 3.) Players whose film I dislike and don't perceive as scheme fits with us ( Montez Sweat, Miss St. not a 43 DE imo but not a quality 34OLB and Josh Allen, 34OLB Kentucky not a 43LB who has some of the most frustrating tape I've seen despite numerical production) ------------- My Browns-Centric Needs Board Tier 1. Blue Chip, Immediate Pro-Bowl Impact at their respective Position 1st Round Prospects 1.) Nick Bosa DE, Ohio State: (Best Player in the Draft. #1 Pick): The Good - Hip torque and flexibility is elite and explosive. Paired with advanced understanding of leverage, elite hand combat technique, and non-stop motor makes him the supreme talent in the draft. The Bad - Durability concerns. Not an effective one arm bull to transitional move artists like his brother Joey. Might struggle with the Bryan Bulaga and Packers Outside Hand Throw Techniques as Nick can get stonewalled when hands get on the outside of his frame. 2.) Amani Oruwariye CB, Penn State: (Top-15 Pick). The Good - Urgent and fluid mover. Competitor fire. Uncanny hip fluidity and foot quickness in mirror technique for his size. Great length and doesn't panic in back pedal or with ball in the air. Patient and precise eye discipline. Good balance and body control in and out of breaks and change of direction. Plays faster than the speed he possesses. The Bad - Does not have elite speed. Has really poor technique using his length at the line to jam. Has poor tackling technique and doesn't always cut it loose in run support. 3.) Quinnen Williams DT, Alabama: (potential arthritic knee flag) (Top-15 Pick) The Good - Slippery, hip flexibility, ability to flip hips with explosion is elite. Splits the Center and Guard with uncanny instincts and foot quickness. Has a shocking initial punch and pull move. Effort and motor always run hot. The Bad - Functional strength and anchor technique are poor in run support too often. Doesn't have good eyes or awareness in run support. Elite hand technique is limited to quick swipes and arm over techniques. Needs more hand combat transitional techniques to sustain high level pass rush. Doesn't always run down the line in run support. Plays too high too often in the run. 4.) Noah Fant TE, Iowa: (Top-25 Pick): The Good - More fluid of a mover and change of direction athlete than OJ Howard and David Njoku. Runs routes with ease and quickness of a WR. Film play speed shows 4.49-4.55 Catch Agility, Body Control, and Exceptional Catch radius is huge. Will be a top 5 TE in his 1st year if he can focus The Bad - Not a dedicated or technical blocker and looks really bad at times (don't ask him to do a lot of blocking). Does not high point the ball or natural hand catch off instinct enough but would rather let the ball get into his body. Drop/Catch inconsistency. 5.) Albert Okwuegbunana TE, Missouri: (Top-65 Pick). The Good - Natural and instinctual route runner with big catch radius. Runs with strength and urgency after the catch. Has a knack for route adjustments against zones. Catch point concentration is great for a TE. Naturally high points the ball despite limited athleticism. Will be a dominant TE year 1 and would be a reliable impact catcher and weapon for Baker. The Bad - Lumbering Movements. Does not possesses the quickness or speed to be used outside of intermediate routes like a David Njoku. ---- Tier 2. Immediate Quality Starter, Early Career Pro-Bowl Upside 1st Round Prospects 6.) Devin White LB, LSU (Top-15 Pick) 7.) Clelin Ferrell DE, Clemson (Top-12 Pick) 8.) Kyler Murray QB, Oklahoma (Top-5 Pick) 9.) Shaquille Quarterman LB, Miami (FL) (Top-70 Pick): 10.) Ed Oliver DT, Houston (Top-18 Pick): ---- Tier 3. Quality Starter by year 2, Long-term Developmental Pro-Bowl Upside Late 1st to 2nd Round Grades 11.) Jerry Tillery NT, Notre Dame (25-48th Pick) 12.) DK Metcalf, WR Ole Miss (neck flag) (Top-60 Pick) 13a.) T.J. Hockenson, TE Iowa (Top-50 Pick) 13b.) Rashan Gary, DE Michigan (12-40th Pick) 14.) AJ Brown WR, Ole Miss (20-55th Pick) 15.) Justin Herbert, QB Oregon (Top-15 Pick) 16.) Jonah Williams, OG/OT Alabama (Top-40 Pick) 17.) David Edwards, LT/RT Wisconsin (Top-35 Pick) 18.) Brian Burns, DE FSU (28-60th Pick) 19.) Jeffery Simmons, DT Miss.State (25-55th Pick) 20.) Deandre Baker, CB Georgia: (Top-50 Pick) Biggest Feast or famine prospect I've seen in recent memory. Either an amazing PD/INT or getting embarrassingly beat with eyes and technique all over the place. 21.) Derrick Brown, NT Auburn (left knee flag) (Top-60 Pick) 22.) Anfernee Jennings, SLB Alabama (knee and lateral flag) (45-70th Pick) ------- Tier 4. Quality Starter by Year 3 2nd round to early 3rd 23.) Dre'Mont Jones, DT OSU (knee flag) 24.) Raekwon Davis, DE Alabama (DE exclusive player in both 43 and 34) 25.) Dwayne Haskins, QB OSU 26.) Daniel Jones, QB Duke 27.) Kelvin Harmon, WR NCSTATE 28.) Justice Hill, RB OKState 29.) Marquis Brown,WR Oklahoma 30.) Chase Claypool, WR Notre Dame 31.) Dalton Risner, OG/RT KSU 32.) Trevon Diggs, CB Alabama 33.) Christian Wilkins, DT Clemson 34.) Joe Bachie Jr., LB Mich. State 35.) Trayvon Mullen, CB Clemson 36.) Deionte Thompson, S Alabama 37.) N'Keal Harry, WR ASU 38.) David Sills, WR WVU 39.) Emmanuel Hall, WR Missouri 40.) Renell Wren, DT ASU 41.) Stanley Morgan, WR Nebraska 42.) Damian Harris, RB Alabama 43.) Yodney Cajuste, LT WVU 44.) Bryce Love RB, Stanford 45.) Essang Bassey, CB Wake Forest 46.) Kendall Sheffield, CB OSU 47.) Greedy Williams, CB LSU 48.) Mack Wilson, LB Alabama 49.) Joe Jackson, DE Miami (FL) 50a.) Gerald Willis III, DT Miami (FL) 50b.) Anthony Johnson, WR Buffalo 51.) Vosean Joseph, LB Florida 52.) Bryce Hall, CB Virginia 53.) Juwan Johnson, TE Penn State (Not as WR) 54.) JJ Arcega Whiteside, TE Stanford (Not as a WR) ------ Tier 5. Quality Contributor, Quality Starter Upside Late 2nd round to late 3rd 55.) Greg Little, RT Ole Miss 56.) Christian Miller Edge/SLB Alabama 57.) Andre Dillard, OT Wash.St 58.) Hakeem Butler, WR Iowa St. 59.) Kendall Joseph, LB Clemson 60.) TJ Edwards, LB Wisconsin 61.) Michael Jackson, CB Miami (FL) 62.) Chauncy Garner-Johnson, CB Florida 63.) Julian Love, Notre Dame 64.) Byron Murphy, CB Washington ----------- --------- Off-Season: Part I. Free Agency 1.) WR Chris Conley: Coming out of college, he was one of the most gifted athletes at WR to set foot at the combine. His film and upside was only slightly less impressive. His abilities were suppressed by Alex Smith's inability to deliver targets down the field. The year Smith started to do so, Conley had a serious knee injury. He has a lot of AJ Green to his game in that he's can be a jump ball specialist or stretch the field. If he can return to form and health, he has WR1 ability but would make for a great WR2/WR1/Slot WR interchangeable piece based on personnel groupings. Conley is recovering from a knee injury and is under utilized in the chiefs offense as Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Sammy Watkins, and Kareem Hunt get the targets in the passing game. Dorsey's familiarity with him make this a great match in terms of our need and how his game fits in with the roster. 2.) DE Brandon Graham 3.) CB Steven Nelson 4.) QB Trevor Siemian 5.) TE Maxx Williams ---- Part II. The Draft 1.) Amani Orunwariye CB Penn State 2.) (Likely Trade Back into Bottom of the 1st) DK Metcalf WR Ole Miss // AJ Brown WR Ole Miss 3.) Christian Wilkins, DT Clemson // Gerald Willis III, DT Miami (FL) -- Both of these guys are likely to fall to the top of the 3rd for a wide-variety of reasons. Wilkins to most is the most unbelievable b/c people are seeing his name in the 1st and 2nd round of mocks; however, scouts have him more realistically in the mid-second to early 3rd range. 3.) T.J. Hockenson TE Iowa // Albert Okwuegbunana TE Missouri 4.) Emmanuel Hall WR Missouri 5.) Shaquille Quarterman LB, Miami (FL) 5.) Joe Bachie Jr., LB Mich. State 5.) Renell Wren, DT ASU 6.) Best RB Available 7.) BPA ------------------------- ------------------------ 2019 Roster Preview (Unbalanced & With No Cuts) Offense (?): Quarterbacks (3): QB: Baker Mayfield // Trevor Siemian // Drew Stanton ------------ Running Backs (3): RB: Nick Chubb // Duke Johnson // Devante Mays ------------ Fullback (1): FB: Orson Charles ------------ Wide Receivers (8): WR1: DK Metcalf // Emmanuel Hall // Antonio Callaway WR2: Chris Conley // Rashard Higgins // Breshad Perriman // Damion Ratley Slot-WR: Jarvis Landry // (Duke Johnson) Practice Squad: Derrick Willies ------------ Tight Ends (4): TE: David Njoku // T.J. Hockenson // Darren Fells // Maxx Williams ------------ Offensive Linemen (8): LT: Greg Robinson // (Desmond Harrison) LG: Joel Bitonio // (Austin Corbett) C: JC Tretter // Austin Corbett RG: Kevin Zeitler // Earl Watford // Kyle Kalis RT: Chris Hubbard // (Greg Robinson) ------------------------- Defense (?): Defensive linemen (10): DE: Myles Garrett // (Brandon Graham) // Chad Thomas // Chris Smith NT: Larry Ogunjobi // Carl Davis // Renell Wren DT: Christian Wilkins // Brian Price // (Chad Thomas as 3-Tech) // (Anthony Zettel) DE: Emmanuel Ogbah // (Genard Avery) // Brandon Graham // Anthony Zettel ------------ Linebackers (8): SLB: Christian Kirksey // Joe Bachie Jr. // Genard Avery MLB: Joe Schobert // (Joe Bachie Jr) // Ray Ray Armstrong WLB: Shaquille Quaterman // Tanner Vallejo ------------ Corner Backs (7): CB1: Denzel Ward // (Damarious Randall) // Tavierre Thomas CB2: Amani Orunwariye // Terrance Mitchell // E.J. Gaines NCB: Steven Nelson // (Briean Boddy-Calhoun) ------------ Free Safeties (2): FS: Damarious Randall // Briean Boddy-Calhoun ------------ Strong Safeties (2): SS: Jabrill Peppers // Derrick Kindred ------------ Specialists (?): Kicker (2): New Kicker Punter (1):Britton Colquitt; Long snapper (1):Charley Hughlett
  13. Walkthemock Drafts

    @NudeTayne Here's my 1st rounders and such thus far until I get a chance to dive back into prospect review as the holiday and days off approaches.
  14. Official GDT, Week 14: Browns vs. Panthers

    I'm out of the country and just finished the game. I'm starting to think that a year of continuity with Freddie Kitchens and Ken Zampese might be worth its weight in gold even if we move on from them next year. The offense was flowing and is really capitalizing on Baker elite strengths. Perriman looks revitalized. Baker is an Impact Reliable Hands Move TE to pair with David Njoku; a true Wide Receiver 1 from; AND a Elite LT/RT away from taking the offense to the next level. Baker absolutely balled out.
  15. THE QUEST FOR THE COACH HATH BEGUN

    Green Bay and a set in his ways long time vet QB doesn't make sense at all for a Fitzgerald hire. However, the Jets do make sense b/c of Darnold.
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