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  1. Troy Vincent: NFL Still Planning for Full Stadiums

    Not gonna happen unless they have hundreds of thousands of extremely accurate rapid testing.
  2. Who's the MJ of Football?

    You've shown your lack of knowledge about basketball being wrong numerous times in this thread already, this just adds to the list. Your credibility when it comes to basketball is pretty much reduced to ashes. I can see how someone can think that Kobe played in a tougher era, but "not really close" lmfao. You either didn't watch basketball before 2000 or you have a hidden agenda.
  3. Who's the MJ of Football?

    Agreed, although I would phrase it as "who is the closest to MJ in football" to make it more clear because asking "who is the MJ of football" kind of implies a 1:1 equivalent and brings all that other stuff into the mix, and to me the two GOATs are not equal.
  4. Who's the MJ of Football?

    And I wouldn't be mad at ya, I guess for me how much influence that player has on the game as a whole plays a big part in determining how great a player is.
  5. Who's the MJ of Football?

    Like I said all this inter-sports comparisons is tough becomes it usually just becomes subjective, just for the record, I have no problems with someone calling a pitcher or a QB the greatest team sports athlete of all time. In my own humble opinion it's MJ but wouldn't be mad at someone saying it's Brady or a pitcher.
  6. Who's the MJ of Football?

    You have to win 4 games to win a series though, you could have a dominant pitcher but you're not winning the World Series if the rest of your rotation doesn't play up to par or if the bats go quiet.
  7. Who's the MJ of Football?

    I can say that a pitcher has a limited effect on a game compared to a basketball player, throw out the GOAT pitcher and the GOAT basketball player and ask yourself who has more influence on the game. Just like the GOAT pitcher cannot be compared to the GOAT QB, a starting pitcher throws only once every five games.
  8. Who's the MJ of Football?

    That and MJ played defense, elite defense...I can't ignore one half of the game.
  9. Who's the MJ of Football?

    I think it's because he is still playing, I think 3-4 years after he retires he will get more of the leftover doubters to acknowledge his greatness...of course you'll have some that'll NEVER respect him.
  10. Who's the MJ of Football?

    I agree with AngusMcFife that Brady is not the MJ of football but thats due to the nature of the game and I doubt any football player will ever be. But c'mon now, he is hands down the GOAT QB, I don't even think this is debateable nowadays and in my opinion the GOAT football player, although Rice has argument.
  11. Who Is Worth 40M a Year Today?

    Mahomes....thats it.
  12. Who's the MJ of Football?

    Perfectly worded, in basketball an individual can dominate and that will greatly increase that teams chance to win the championship, obviously that player would still need help as it's still a team sport. In football one single player can be the most dominant player ever but they would still greatly rely on the other side of the ball to execute to win the super bowl.
  13. Who's the MJ of Football?

    I know you're trying to prove a point with this quote but lets add some context to that statement, MJ played 13 full seasons and Kobe played 18, Kobe also played alot his career when hand checking became illegal making it easier for players to score, especially for guards. So no...Kobe did not play in a tougher guard era than MJ did, there might have been more talent at the guard position but it wasn't a "much tougher" era to play in for a guard, let me jalso add that Jordan played in a much physical era than Kobe did and payed against some of the most physical teams in NBA history such as the bad boys Pistons and mid 90's Knicks.
  14. Who's the MJ of Football?

    Screwed up on the wording, what I mean what it is generally agreed that Brady is the GOAT but those other guys have an argument too.
  15. Who's the MJ of Football?

    Like said people will argue for their guy in circles and this debate can go on literally forever, fun conversation though. Bottom line is MJ is considered the GOAT of basketball by the majority of people (Kareem, Wilt, Lebron all have an argument) while Brady is the consensus GOAT of football (Rice, LT, Brown all have an argument too). It's when you start comparing the GOATs between sports that is where things get muddied. In my own humble opinion, Brady, nor another football player will ever be the MJ of football because of how football fundamentally is, no matter how dominant a player can be, he only plays on one side of the ball...well at least until one day some uber athletic freak becomes elite on both sides of the ball. Some people might want to just put that aside to make the comparison more fair but I dont think leaving out half of the game makes sense but thats just me and people might not want to agree with that.