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  1. The Post FA|Pre Draft Season Prediction Thread

    I really think they win the division. The Rams give me bad vibes at the moment. Maybe I am just overreacting to Goff's performance in the SB and Gurley's knee.
  2. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    Matt Ryan will get into the HOF at his current trajectory. As someone posted earlier, 8-11 QBs tend to get in for an era. Cam has zero chance IMO. He isn't going to have the volume, the efficiency, and perhaps the longevity. He is not even 30 and his body is already starting to break down.
  3. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    Yeah, like if Rivers had 3 or 4 pro bowls, I would be there with people saying it doesn't mean much. But 8 with a good shot of getting to 10 in a couple of years, that means something.
  4. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    True, but by the time he is done he will have over 400 touchdown passes, 50,000 yards+ , 8+ pro bowl appearances, 200+ consecutive starts. Everyone who has accomplished that is in the HOF.
  5. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    The only QBs with more pro bowl appearances then Rivers the past 10 years are Brady, Brees, and Peyton. Every QB with 8 is in the HOF. For the record every player with at least 10 selections are in the hall, which Rivers has a good chance of getting to in the next couple of years.
  6. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    Based on what?
  7. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    Pro bowls and numbers matter to voters. 8 pro bowls is a lot (that is the same amount as Joe Montana has). Passing for well over 50,000 and finishing with over 400 touchdowns passes, along with over 200 career consecutive starts is going to be hard to overlook to voters.
  8. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    You are in the minority on this. He will get it. -Has 8 pro bowl appearances (every QB with that many is in) -6th all-time in passing touchdowns and on top of that everyone with 300+ is in. Also has an outside chance of getting to 500 if he remains healthy and plays another 3-4 years. -8th in passing yards and passed the 50,000 mark (again everyone with that many is either in the HOF or is going to get in) -208 career consecutive starts and should pass Eli's streak for the second longest early next year (knock on wood). -Lead the league in YPA for three straight years (2008-2010). The only QB's to do that are Young and Warner (both in the HOF). -I also think Rivers lead the league in QB rating over a three year span from 2008-2010. -One of only six players in NFL history to have at least 4 100 QB rating seasons with over 400 attempts. Brees has 7, Rodgers, Brady, and Peyton have 6, Young has 4, and Rivers has 5. Everyone on that list is in the HOF. -The most telling statistic is ANY/A. Rivers is 5th all time. That tells you he is just not a volume passer, but he has been highly efficient. In fact, the gap between Rivers and Drew Brees in that regard is smaller then the gap between Rivers and Cam and Stafford. And even when you adjust the number to era, Rivers still comes out in the top 5. Comparing him to Bledsoe is ridiculous, they weren't on the same planet as players. His resume is pretty similar to Warren Moon (who is in). The only difference is the an all-pro appearance for Moon and we know Rivers should have been an all-pro in 2008. Other then that Rivers has better numbers (both bulk and efficiency) and has also played in an AFC championship game, while Moon didn't. As for media members? I suggest you actually do better research. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24230258/deciding-future-pro-football-hall-fame-debates-eli-manning-darrelle-revis-more Sando and Legwood are actually HOF voters. http://www.nfl.com/videos/inside-the-nfl/0ap3000000736940/Inside-the-NFL-Is-Philip-Rivers-Hall-of-Fame-worthy This is from two years ago and Rivers has only added on to his resume given his play the last two years. https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/content/2018-12-14-philip-rivers-and-andy-reid-are-all-time-greats/ From Cowherd. Hell, even Jason Whitlock who doesn't think Rivers should get in, thinks he will get in. https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2018/11/23/analyst-theyre-going-to-put-philip-rivers-in-the-hall-of-fame-one-day-and-he-wont-deserve-it/ Also lmao of bringing up Stafford, this is why Rivers is vastly underrated. Stafford isn't even in the same ball park. He has bulk stats, lacks efficiency, and has made one pro bowl. The disconnect between fans from coaches and personnel people in the NFL about Rivers is amazing.
  9. The direction of the Broncos in the near future.

    Denver reminds me of the early-era Telesco Chargers. Even though the Chargers still had Rivers in his prime, it is still a similar make up of having an aging core and trying to patch things up with short term moves. The best thing to happen to the team was being awful in 2015 and 2016, it allowed Telesco to replenish the roster with younger talent. Maybe Flacco gets them to the playoff this year, but I just don't see much of a high ceiling with their current roster.
  10. What made Hue Jackson such a terrible coach?

    Lack of accountability.
  11. The Post FA|Pre Draft Season Prediction Thread

    Seahawks 28/1 is a steal as well IMO. Best QB in that division and arguably the best coach.
  12. Yeah, the thing with Eli vs Rivers is that they aren't really close statistically outside of volume. This is different from Rivers vs Ben since they are so close statistically that the difference comes from post season success. I used to think Eli would get in before Rivers, but I am not so sure anymore. Their careers since 2012 have gone in opposite directions.
  13. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    I would give Ryan the edge there. His lows in the postseason have been worse then Rivers, but you can't overlook 2016.
  14. Is Rivers better than any current HoF QBs?

    Ryan is going to be an interesting case. His 2016 season is better then anything Rivers has done. But after 2016, I would take Rivers 08-10, 2013, and 2018 over any other Ryan season. It is a classic case of peak vs consistency.
  15. If you want to hold the lack of a SB against Rivers, that is fine. But the lack of all-pros and MVP is a bit unfair. He had a legit case for MVP in 2008 and should have been at least 2nd team all-pro over Brees. There is also a decent chance he makes another all-pro team in 2010 if we had a more logical voting system.