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  1. Pick is in, #4 Clelin Ferrell DE Clemson

    I mean...that's remarkable. Hats off to you, I saw you say this several times mid-draft but I didn't comment thru the draft. But you can be happy to ride or die with Mayock and the 2019 class. That's pretty cool that you were so aligned with our actual picks, you gotta be thrilled.
  2. Pick is in, #4 Clelin Ferrell DE Clemson

    If Ferrell can come in and lead, motivate, drive others to be better, it will enhance his value. Just because that isn't easily quantifiable or verifiable doesn't mean you can overlook that it can be a big impact. Gruden and Mayock put a lot of stock in that, which is either innovative or foolish...and not a lot separate the two options. I trust it, and I think it only adds to the "floor" of this pick. The days of me getting wrapped up in potential are over, since it is mostly unrealized potential when all is said and done. So I support Mayock, Gruden, the choice at 4, the focus on defense, and the culture shift heading into Vegas...no pun but I'm all-in. They had a plan and stuck with it. Hats off to Mayock I think he's doing a hell of a job in year one.
  3. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Most are, we have been through it all. No sense jumping ship. But go ahead, be a bandwagon fan for a more successful team. Won't change the die hards. Win lose or tie Raider till I die! Looking forward to the draft tonight, beer will be flowing (hopefully celebratory and not drowning sorrows lol)
  4. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    No blue checkmark and no brain
  5. Beast Mode retires...again

    You and I have been around here long enough to see this constantly. Warren? How many times do we need to see that a preseason warrior doesn't mean anything? He is an ordinary back at very best. When will people learn?
  6. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Yea agreed. I am not sure how it shakes out value wise, but I imagine 15/2020 1st/2nd for 4 is better for Washington than 6/2nd/2nd/2019 2nd for 3 was for Jets. Washington may be desperate too, and even still get a discount versus Jets deal. It would be amazing for us.
  7. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    I was going to say 15, next years 1st, and a 2nd. Colts got 3 2nds from Jets to move from 6 to 3. I understand it's a bit different this year, but I think we need at least next year's first and a 2nd. Their first next year will likely be a high one so it should shake out pretty well if that were to happen.
  8. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    I think the Raiders big board at 4 is this: 1. K Murray - I think there's truth to the Murray appeal for Gruden, but I also see him going #1. If you believe the rumors that Gruden prefers Haskins to Murray, this is your surprise pick. I'm opting not to believe it, I also strongly believe Murray goes #1, and even more sure he's gone by 4. 1% chance he's a Raider at 4. 2. N Bosa - best edge rusher. Won't make it to 4, I am as sure of that as any prospect. 0% chance we get him at 4. 3. Q Williams - for all the reasons big_p outlined. All-around stud. Should be considered the favorite, and has a good chance of being there if we can catch 1 break (Allen to Jets, Redskins trade up for Haskins, etc). 60% chance he's a Raider at 4. 4. D White - hell of a player, face of the defense, position of need. This could be the surprise pick buzz. This surprise wouldn't hurt. If top 3 go Murray/Bosa/Q, I think he's our guy. 30% chance he's a Raider at 4. The remaining 9% goes to the field...Josh Allen, Dwayne Haskins, Ed Oliver. That's how I see it at this point.
  9. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Gary got a 9 on his Wonderlic LOL. You could straight up not read the questions and randomly select your way to a 12.
  10. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    You are happy with 4 out of 11 on a franchise-altering decision? I guess I just have higher standards than a 36% success rate with something that important, especially when the current QB is serviceable.
  11. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Mayock's track record on QB prospects and how he ranks them is pretty awful...go back and look at his past 10 years. He has been more solid in other areas (had Mack 1 way before anyone else and never wavered when everyone was saying Clowney). We bring in a draft guru and take a QB, his area of weakness, at pick 4? I pray this is just smoke. Mayock top QB by year: 2008: Matt Ryan - good, but consensus 2009: Mark Sanchez - over Stafford. Gross 2010: Sam Bradford - OK by default 2011: Blaine Gabbert - over Cam Newton. Gross 2012: Andrew Luck - good, but consensus. Didn't have Russell Wilson top 5, but had Weeden 4. 2013: None - had Geno Smith but stated no good QB. Good call, but again consensus (side note: had Chance Warmack as top player. Gross) 2014: Blake Bortles - over Carr, Bridgewater, (side note: Gruden had Manziel highest...nervous yet?) 2015: Jameis Winston - whatever. Winston/Mariota clearly top 2 and neither great or bad. So whatever 2016: Jared Goff - Goff/Wentz clearly top 2 and both are very good. He was high on both, so that's encouraging... 2017: Mitchell Trubisky - over Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes. Had Mahomes 3rd. Trubisky isn't bad, but this looks horrible. 2018: Sam Darnold - OK. Baker is best and he had him 3rd, but jury still out and Darnold has a ton of promise. None of this screams confidence in a QB selection.
  12. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Haskins makes the Ferrell at 4 possiblity look like Reggie White. Haskins, and really any QB other than Murray, would be a colossal failure at 4. Like, franchise-crippling bad. The only way it isn't is if they'd pair the pick with a Carr trade for 13, which isn't happening. And even then it's still terrible. You just get the feeling that a QB is the choice if rumors are true. Which they were last year and seem to be true more often than not for us.
  13. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    Ferrell totally seems possible at 4. Mayock and Gruden may see him as more bust-proof and could opt to play it safe rather than try to hit the home run. I would really dislike the pick but I could see it happening. Ugh.
  14. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    I'm a pretty big believer in the Wonderlic. Not that it correlates to QB success; rather that a bad score really limits your ability. It's so rare to be a great QB and have a low score. Great scores don't correlate to good QB, but I think bad scores correlate to a limited QB. You have to do at least decent on the test, which Murray did not. This would alarm me more than his height does. I think Carr also got a 20 IIRC...
  15. 2019 NFL Draft Thread v5.0

    If Q is there and we trade up for Oliver I will be livid. Not sure that's what's being insinuated by that tweet, but Oliver at 4 would be annoying if Q is there...let alone trading up...let alone trading up for Oliver.