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  1. OBJ Traded to Browns for spare change

    All of those Wideout are the best or among the best, but Julio and AJ can't take a short slant pass and turn that into a touchdown. I am iffy if Antonio can do so or not. However age counts for a lot, all of those other wideouts are 30, Odell 26.
  2. Giants to pick #6 in 2019 NFL draft

    The trade not dumb especially if that extra first round pick get us our Qb of the future in this draft or next years draft. Some people here or so fickle, last year people were saying how great a GM Gettleman was after last year draft, mean while ignoring most of his bad off season moves. Now he is dumb for trading a game changing wide out that I don't remember changing too many if any games for us last year. As I am sure it has been said, we can lose with out Odell. Outside of running back and maybe tight end, there are holes at every other position (QB, OL, Wideout, DL, LB, CB, Safety). It is most likely going to take 3 drafts to fix every thing.
  3. OBJ Traded to Browns for spare change

    Tyreek Hill, Saquon.
  4. OBJ Traded to Browns for spare change

    The Steelers got a 3rd and 5th round draft picks for Antonio. We got a 1st a 3rd and a potential Probowl safety that still has years on his rookie deal, to me that is like getting another 1st round pick and Odell is no longer in the NFC. I been more critical of Gettleman than most, with that said this was a very good trade for the Giants. We will be a force again in 2021. Just going to be tough watching games in 2019 and 2020.
  5. OBJ Traded to Browns for spare change

    Saquon will not be 30 when the Giants are ready to win again and still on his rookie contract.
  6. Looking to the future draft.. (yes already)

    I agree on the need for an OL, the first things we should look for in this draft is a franchise QB, If none is there then we need to get a tackle, preferable a LT to finally upgrade this OL.
  7. Looking to the future draft.. (yes already)

    You are ignoring the comment by not acknowledging where in the draft they were picked and what rounds. That draft had rookies that produced and played roles in at least one Super Bowl winning team. If another team signs Kevin Boss to more money that in no way meant he was not a good player for the Giants. What matters to me is how this players played while a Giant. Kevin Boss played good enough to make Jeremey Shockey a Pro-Bowl and All-Pro player expandable. A major injury is what made Steve Smith a shell of himself but he was still a good player for the Giants and Steve Smith did make a Pro-Bowl. Production is expected from the players drafted in the first first three rounds. When you get great production from the rounds drafted after, that is special. Gettleman is most likely going to have a Top 5 draft pick, and it is not going to be surprise to anyone that his first two draft picks are going to be great, it would be a great disappointment if they were not. As for Sam Darnold, he plays on a bad team with a defensive head coach and his all of his skilled position players are the very meaning of JAG. Till the Giants get a franchise QB, the future of the Jets is a lot brighter than ours.
  8. Tom Brady still has a decent offensive line he can play behind. Eli (and most QB's) can't function behind this one. If you want to start Tanney fine, but there is no need to start Lauletta in there before he is ready. Why are you in a rush to take the Texans approach and turn Lauletta into David Carr, instead of taking the Kansas City approach with Patrick Mahomes?
  9. Why would they not be favored? They have beaten some good teams we have not. They have a legitimate run game, we just lost the leagues best run stopping Nose Guard. They have a good defensive line that can rush the passer our offensive line sucks pretty badly.
  10. Looking to the future draft.. (yes already)

    Are you ignoring the main point I was making on purpose, or are simply not old enough to remember the 2007 Giants? If the latter then I can see where you are coming from with your comments.
  11. Giants trade Eli Apple to Saints

    Nor does it mean that it is the case. Plus with him being traded I think word would have got out by now if he was traded because he was being a problem again. To me it feels like Gettleman wants to purge the Giants as much as possible of every draft pick that Reese had made.
  12. Giants trade Eli Apple to Saints

    Key word is last season. If this trade was done last season that would have made sense. He was given a fresh start this season, I have not heard anything about him being a problem in the locker room this season.
  13. Giants trade Eli Apple to Saints

    This trade to me seem pretty much one sided in the Saints favor. The Saints are getting a decent #2 QB that is still on his rookie contract. Giants still have to take on 2.3 million in dead money next year from Eli. The secondary is already a weakness for the Giants and now they just traded their #2 CB? Another genius Gettleman move.
  14. Eli Apple traded to New Orleans Saints

    Is a 4th and 7th the best we could do? I am thinking a decent #2 corner should be able to get us at least a 3rd round pick.
  15. Looking to the future draft.. (yes already)

    A little early to be going for it.