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  1. Khalil Mack Holdout (To be fined $814,000 tonight)

    Sure it doesn't seem like he's losing out if he stays healthy enough to make it through that scenario. The security of a multi year deal is critical. Otherwise every player would be willing to sign one year deals for more money.
  2. 2018 Free Agency Thread v2

    Didn't this dude just sucker punch a teammate in practice?
  3. Preseason Week 1 Vs Lions Good, Bad, Ugly

    No argument. Just a difference of opinion. No way for either of us to know if we're right since we can't read Gruden's mind. But as an interesting thought, I guess I personally don't consider any player a lock outside of four categories: 1) elite player (ie perennial pro bowler/recent all pro), 2) very high recent draft pick (current 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick/ 1st, 2nd round pick one year removed/ 1st round pick two years removed) 3) high paid player with a prohibitive dead cap, and 4) veteran starter with recent and consistent high level of play. However, separate from Martin, Obi may test my theory
  4. Preseason Week 1 Vs Lions Good, Bad, Ugly

    Recruited? Practically a third of the roster right now was "recruited" here by Gruden or Guenther. But practically none are a lock to make the team. Martin is no different. I guess I don't put a lot of stock of looking great through 2 weeks of camp. But you may very well be right on who makes the team. Just don't think it's set in stone outside of lynch and smith.
  5. Preseason Week 1 Vs Lions Good, Bad, Ugly

    I do agree that the coaching staff has a better idea of what they have in Martin since he's been in the league longer. He has a firm hold on the 2 spot now as a result. But I'm not ready to believe his roster spot is a lock after one preseason game.
  6. Khalil Mack Holdout (To be fined $814,000 tonight)

    I get what you're saying and I agree from a business perspective. But man, does that approach rub me the wrong way. I think what Pit is doing to Leveon is wrong and I don't think it can be understated the harm a franchise/front office can do to its reputation by doing business like that. IMO of there is no middle ground on a contract with Mack then just trade him. I would much prefer that to having a malcontent on the team, and rightfully so, if he's getting screwed over.
  7. Preseason Week 1 Vs Lions Good, Bad, Ugly

    I'm not buying that Martin is a lock yet. This guy is on a prove it deal for a reason. I know he's looked good in practice but you don't erase a few years of inconsistency that easily. I still think he's in a three guy competition with Richard and Washington for two spots.
  8. Training Camp 2018

    +1 Awesome to see a WR on our team with great short area quickness and crisp route running. Provides an awesome element to the offense and should only help the other guys get open.
  9. Preseason Week 1 Vs Lions Good, Bad, Ugly

    In his defense, a majority of his fumbles last year were as a punt returner and not at RB. And given that, he's been given essentially no looks at PR by this staff
  10. Khalil Mack Holdout (To be fined $814,000 tonight)

    Are you sure about that? Where is that info from? Existing info indicates that Donald's agent is Todd France and Mack's is Joel Segal. Not even the same agency, let alone agent.
  11. Training Camp 2018

    I understand that they say LT is his position. At least primarily. But there are also realities of roster construction. If Miller is not starting at LT, he needs to be able to play both sides at the very least if not get a look at RT. Let's assume Penn is healthy and starting at LT, and the starting spot at RT goes to one of the current candidates. Miller is the backup LT, which is his position of focus as you said. But, as the backup he needs to be able to play both sides as a backup come the regular season. He is at least the third best OT on the roster and there aren't enough active roster spots on gameday to activate 4 OTs. Miller would be the swing OT by default. He will need/get reps on the right side.
  12. Training Camp 2018

    While looking long term I agree, in the short term this is all predicated on Penn. Penn hasn't practiced all offseason so it makes sense so far that the 1st round pick LT of the future get all the reps he there while he can . Especially given that Penn's return to health is far from certain. But if Penn comes back I find it hard to believe Miller won't get a look on the right side. Even if Penn is back and one of the current RT candidates locks up the starting position, Miller would likely be the swing OT and would need reps on both sides.
  13. Training Camp 2018

    I'd be interested to see if Ware gets any reps at RT now or when Penn is back. I thought he looked solid in pass pro on Friday night. A year of coaching and in the weight rooms seems to have helped quite a bit.
  14. 2018 Depth Chart...How do you see it?

    Vanderdoes is barely 8 months removed from a torn ACL and has yet to practice. How is he supposed to prove himself? In all likelihood he'll be stashed on IR
  15. Training Camp 2018

    In his defense that was Levi Damien's tweet. But I agree. Sounds like Key has shown good bend and flexibility. But the competition should not be overlooked at this point.