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  1. 2018 Free Agency Thread v2

    Agreed as to that preference. Personally would have kept Holton over Roberts. Not only for STs but Lafell's skill set is more possession receiver oriented like Roberts and Nelson. Holton at least gives you a speedy deep threat option. Not that he's been particularly consistent at that. But at least an added offensive element compared to Roberts.
  2. 2018 Free Agency Thread v2

    That's pretty good production for a #3, no? I think he's fine. Not ideal but will suffice. Established vet with a known and reliable skill set. The exact type of post-camp casualty most teams look for.
  3. Khalil Mack traded to the Bears (Page 19)

    I don't understand this concept of "added pressure to nail the draft picks". As if they just weren't really trying before and now they're going to scout extra extra hard now. The draft is a crapshoot and our front office is average at best compared to other teams. What is the point of a high draft pick if a team is unwilling to pay them if they actually turn out to be good/elite.
  4. Khalil Mack traded to the Bears (Page 19)

    Different position, different person, different circumstances. But just for the sake of fleshing out this comparison, how did that work out for Detroit? Which great players did they get with all that extra cap space? They've been a joke in that span. Hard to say they're any better off. When a franchise struggles to find and develop talent, its wise to do what it takes to keep the few successful picks they have.
  5. Khalil Mack traded to the Bears (Page 19)

    Disgusting. I applaud a lot of you guys for looking at it glass half full. But I just can't. This makes just makes no sense to me. Even two 1sts and a 2nd comes no where close to compensation. Does anyone have trust that Reggie or Gruden will nail even two of those picks?
  6. Camp Cuts (53 Announced)

    Nah. Rather roll with the other guys we already have at DE
  7. 2018 Depth Chart...How do you see it?

    Anyone else think it's possible Edwards gets cut or traded? I found it strange he played so much last week given he's been labeled a starter for all of training camp. When coaching staffs do that it seems to be a ploy to drum up trade interest. Assuming no one trades for him, and why would anyone beyond a low round pick, does he make the 53? He was invisible out there against fringe players and it presents an issue with other more deserving young players in Calhoun and Brown. Would a DL of 5 DEs and only 3 DTs work to keep those guys. Given that Carradine can play 3T on passing downs when needed. IE DE : Carradine, Irvin, Key, Calhoun, Brown DT: Ellis, Hurst, Hall
  8. Khalil Mack traded to the Bears (Page 19)

    Very true. Although the article did raise a valid point of it being the byproduct of people's demand for free stuff on the internet. Under that model, these outlets will be motivated by views to generate ad revenue. Twitter is a whole other crap hole. On a similar note, I've been stoked with The Athletic for those who haven't given it a try. Worth the subscription IMO. Tafur (and others) have some good stuff on there and Ted Nguyen puts out some awesome film breakdown articles. Hopefully that model gains more traction with other outlets.
  9. Khalil Mack traded to the Bears (Page 19)

    From what I recall, Melvin Ingram and Dont'a Hightower. I'm sure there are others. Certainly not the majority but it does happen. Although the more recent trend has been for new deals/extentions to be done after year 3 or 4. Bell's situation is completely different. He wasnt a first round pick. Never had a 5th year option. Instead Pittsburgh has misused the franchise tag system (smartly or unethically depending on your view) knowing the statistics of RBs with high carries approaching 30. Totally separate issue from the 5th year option conversation
  10. Looking back at Reggie's drafts as the Raiders GM.

    I don't think the only two options were expensive "reputable coach" or Dennis Allen. Yes our options were limited. But its not like Allen was our only option. Reggie struck out badly on DA. And my statement applies to Del Rio as well. And more so for hiring coaches who continuously made terrible coordinator selections.
  11. 2018 Depth Chart...How do you see it?

    I no longer think Hall makes it. I would expect DRC replaces him as the #4 corner given that he's younger, better, and from rumors can play a little safety. Nelson I think makes it. His familiarity with Guenthers system as a safety net. I don't think he would make it if the staff was confident in our starting safeties. I like Luani and he may have potential. But I don't think he's done enough to make the roster this year. He is good on special teams but without flashes on D, I don't think they can fit him in. Harris overtook him. Again, if there was more confidence in our starting safeties I believe Luani would make it over Nelson. Lee has played well but I also think Johnson makes it no doubt. Mainly because of the LB composition. Similar to S as far as uninspiring. Whitehead is the only one with significant starting experience. The others are STers (Wilber, Lamur) or inexperienced (Lee, Morrow, Cowser). Not enough guys have stepped up to push Johnson off the roster imo. But I get you on the ST concerns. A lot of these guys are vital in that regard. Not ideal to have too many older vets as back ups if they offer no ST value. What likely would happen is more starters/rotational players playing double duty on STs. ie Lee, Morrow, Calhoun, Harris
  12. Looking back at Reggie's drafts as the Raiders GM.

    But he was responsible for getting those head coaches. So that falls on him as well. He doesn't get to remove himself for failures in coaching and player development
  13. Looking back at Reggie's drafts as the Raiders GM.

    There's no doubt in my mind he wouldn't be fired if it weren't for 2014. And that may be a sufficient enough job saver. That class wasn't just good, it's the foundation our current team is built on. I will say that his drafting isn't as bad as some may make it out to be. With all the scouting and analytics that go into the draft it can be easy to forget just how much of a crapshoot things are. Even in the high rounds. You would be hard pressed to find a team that is significantly better over that stretch. Every GM misses in the draft far more than they hit. However, the biggest issue I have with RM's draft strategy is that for someone who is seemingly risk-averse in every other aspect of his duties, takes so many chances in the first two rounds. He consistently opts for players with significant questions ie injuries (Hayden, Joseph), raw workout warriors (Watson, Ward, Melifonwu) or other (Conley(legal), Edwards(effort). Literally the three outliers from his typical approach are his only good selections in Mack, Carr, and Cooper. Is he though? I've always been perplexed by this view of RM. He did a good job the first 3 years getting us out of cap misery and keeping us in good shape cap wise thus far. But none of that seems to be from any genius cap work. He is just conservative in free agency so doesn't hand out massive regrettable contracts which is what typically gets teams into cap trouble. He also hasn't drafted well so hasn't really had to hand out big second contracts. The only ones he has are Carr, Gabe, and Ellis (and hopefully soon Mack) and none of those 3 are savvy contracts.
  14. Training Camp 2018

    I agree with the bold as to last week against the Rams. Less so against Detroit. I thought there were a few examples in that game where he got a decent-sized hole as a result of good patience and vision on cutbacks. Not solely because of blocking as against LA. It's really a persistent and unavoidable circumstance for preseason superstars IMO. They're going against scrubs on defense based on where they are on the depth chart. So if they do well it's easy to point to weak competition. Hard to differentiate between who is for real and who isn't as a result. Interesting comparison to GA3 though. For me the difference is physical potential I guess. GA3 was just a guy physically IMO. Warren has somewhat rare physical attributes. Projects with great measurables is more than appropriate for a guy 3rd or 4th on the depth chart in my view. A recent guy that came to my mind was Elijah Hood. A guy a lot of people thought had potential based solely on his build but who showed nothing in preseason even against scrubs.
  15. Training Camp 2018

    Sigh... I appreciate a lot of stuff PFF does. But this kind of stuff annoys me. Data can be a tool but it can also be presented out of context and with a lot of crucial variables missing. You can easily pick and choose stats, especially in preseason football, to reach a predetermined conclusion. Just my view. As to Warren specifically, it depends on someones view of his "hype". Are the takes making him out to be the heir apparent to Lynch ridiculously premature? No doubt. But that's the minority I think. Most of what I've seen on this forum is excitement and intrigue for an UDFA coming out of nowhere to push for a roster spot. One with great physical attributes and potential. But still no better than 3rd on the depth chart and probably not a significant part of the offense this season (if he makes the 53). That's not exactly "hype" IMO.