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  1. Kobe Bryant has died in helicopter crash

    The Heat retired MJ's 23, so I think we can count them as another team that will retire 24. I see this as a bit of a snowball, where if even 5 or 6 teams do it, eventually all will, because no team wants to be the only team letting players wear 24. Of course maybe the NBA will just retire it, like MLB did w/ Jackie Robinson's #42, but I don't think they will. Especially since Kobe had 2 numbers.
  2. Kobe Bryant has died in helicopter crash

    It will be different since they will have hopefully lived full lives. Kobe was just 41. In terms of setting a precedent, well odds are pretty low we'll see a repeat of this. Not only was Kobe an all time great, but being the high scoring face of LA that he was, he was the most popular player in the league for a very long time. I understand the sentiment against retiring #24 league wide, new logo, new trophy, and going "overboard" with tributes since unfortunately Kobe's not the 1st legend to die and he won't be the last. I would say just let teams decide when it comes to the jersey. Don't think you can change the logo, it's become so iconic as is.
  3. Obviously need to wait until SB itself, but I'm guessing pretty high. Both have won their 2 playoff games rather easily (49ers dominated both start to finish, Chiefs ended up dominating both by 4th), so if one of them also dominates in the SB? That would significantly raise their profile and put them in unique company. Here is where their DVOA's ranks (so ignoring postseason). 2013 Seahawks- 40% 2019 Chiefs- 30.2% 2019 49ers- 27.9% 2016 Patriots- 24.9% 2017 Eagles- 23.4% 2010 Packers- 23% 2014 Patriots- 22.1% 2015 Broncos- 17.7% 2018 Patriots- 14.2% 2012 Ravens- 9.8% 2011 Giants- 8.5%
  4. Kobe Bryant has died in helicopter crash

    This is just tough to process, probably the most impactful celebrity death I've felt. He wasn't just going to go and live his life like most athletes in retirement do (which is fine). He loved basketball too much not to stay involved. Whether he continued with his movies, coaching, broadcasting, all of the above, whatever it was, Kobe was going to be around and on our radar for the next 30+ years it feels like. Now just like that all gone in the blink of an eye from a routine trip. Obviously tragic as well that kids were on board. Really think the NBA should have called off today's slate of games. Not even just to honor him (could even argue he wouldn't want games stopped for anything), but how many guys in the league grew up with Kobe as their idol? Every single player, even vets, at the very least felt the influence of Kobe one way or another. The Nuggets and Rockets literally tipped off within an hour of hearing the news. NBA lost one it's biggest stars, let the players and league mourn.
  5. 2020 NBA Draft Thread

    Yeah, I mean before Zion I think the last 3 POTYs were all 2nd round picks, but they were guards + like you said, weak class. Still thinking he'll end up a 2nd rounder. Just not a good fit in modern NBA. He's only an average athlete, which in turn projects him as a guy who would struggle covering NBA PnR and guys in space, and his main source of scoring is on post ups, which NBA shies more and more away from every year. He can shoot, so stretch 4 is his best bet where he could have a size advantage and not be tasked with rim protection, but that would also require him to defend opposing 4s which I'm not sure he could do. Unless you're an Embiid, great size + athlete, or a Jokic, great size + skill, you're probably not going to be able to make a living as a post up player in the NBA in 2020. Garza's bread and butter is beating you before he even receives the ball from what I've seen, then once he gets the ball he's got deep enough position that he can just sink the short hook. Not going to be able to get deep position in the NBA consistently, not even 7 ft 290 lb Joker does unless he's got a switch. I could see him be a productive role player, but it seems teams don't touch you in the 1st unless they think you could become a key cog, even if odds of reaching ceiling are very small. I'd take him in the 1st, I could see him develop into a Kanter level contributor. Garza is easily a top 10 pick 5-6 years ago. Remember Cody Zeller as a top 5 pick? Frank top 10? Unfortunate for him how much the NBA has changed in such little time. NBA wants athletic 7 footers who can run the floor and protect the rim.
  6. NBA GDT | '19-'20 | All Hail King Zion !!!

    Nuggets MO lately: 1. take big lead in 4th quarter 2. Almost blow it 3. Get saved by Will the thrill heroics

    For sure. That’s why you always want that fluid “1 movement” type of shot, easier to reproduce, but consistency trumps all. Dirk is one of most pure shooters ever and his jumper was 2 motions w/ how he paused just a bit at peak rather than releasing AS he hit the peak. Zion has looked completely different tonight vs 1st 3 quarters last week, where he looked a bit unsure of himself and how to score. He’s taken what Nuggets give him, as w/out Millsap our lineups are on small end and he is abusing that, deep position on mismatches for easy layup. None of the blind rushes into traffic that lead to 2 or 3 TOS the other night.
  8. NBA GDT | '19-'20 | All Hail King Zion !!!

    CJ McCollum is the most consistent player in the league, look at that PER!

    I don't know, it's pretty damn ugly... but all that matters is whether or not the shot falls as far as I'm concerned.
  10. Is a London team viable at this stage?

    No matter how much London loves the NFL, I just don't think it will ever be viable. The 7-10 hour flight, and 5-8 hour time difference, is just asking too much. The London team would have to make this trek 8x a year. You'd waste so much money and time traveling. Nobody would want to play for London and have to either relocate their family or live an ocean apart half the year. Just will never happen IMO, not unless some form of hyper speed travel ever goes mainstream.
  11. NBA GDT | '19-'20 | All Hail King Zion !!!

    SMH, agree with Van Gundy. Show me the damn data that 5 extra minutes will increase injury risk lol.
  12. NBA GDT | '19-'20 | All Hail King Zion !!!

    I don't know if the coaches told him to play more aggressive or he just felt the need to flip a switch in a close game in the 4th, but that was an unreal 4 minute stretch. In a matter of minutes he turned a 5 pts and 5 TO underwhelming debut into an impressive debut that might win the game. Realized those TOs were because defenders could tell he was not even thinking of shooting and just playing the drive, so what does he do? Casually hits 4 in a row. Now the drive will be open. You can NOT take him out if you actually want to win this game.
  13. NBA GDT | '19-'20 | All Hail King Zion !!!

    That was insanely impressive. He just took over the damn game. Outrageous.
  14. NBA GDT | '19-'20 | All Hail King Zion !!!

    What a gross debut. Zion looks clueless, keeps dribbling with the ball in front of him right into defenders. Also definitely does not look 100% with how he is moving.
  15. 2019-2020 NCAAB Discussion Thread 1.0: VCJ for NCAA POY

    Garza has to be the Naismith frontrunner right now. Myles Johnson was able to dominate Oturu when they shared the court, but Garza is killing him. Not even bad D, he's just too good.