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  1. Random Packer News & Notes

    Are we referring to the the final 3 weeks of the 2018 season? If so, let's recap:No TFLs, no Sacks for the Adams-Lancaster-Lowry trio. Week 15 = Chicago 24-GB 17. The Trubisky-led Bears rush for 100 yards and Mitchell passes for 235 yards, 2 TDs and no picks. Adams had 1/2 a sack, none for Lancaster or Lowry and no TFLs among the trio, though Lancaster did lead the team with 5 unassisted tackles. https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/12/16/chicago-bears-mitch-trubisky-picks-apart-green-bay-packers-his-terms/2317515002/ Week 16 = GB 44-NY Jets 38. Rookie Sam Darnold throws for 345 yards, 3TDs and no picks for the 4-11 Jets. His 128.4 QB rating is a season high. No TFLs, no Sacks for the Adams-Lancaster-Lowry trio. https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2018/12/23/live-updates-analysis-score-green-bay-packers-new-york-jets/2401578002/ Week 17 = Detroit 31-GB 0. Somebody named Zack Zenner rushes for 93 yards (4.4 YPC) and the Lions as a team gain 130 yards. Stafford throws for 266, 2TDs, and no picks for the 5-10 (entering the game) Lions. "With good protection from his offensive line, Stafford completely dissected the Packers’ depleted secondary." No TFLs, no Sacks for the Adams-Lancaster-Lowry trio. Lowry had 2 passes defensed. https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2019/1/1/18163852/detroit-lions-week-17-5-game-ball-candidates-vs-packers/comment/500415845 Given that these were meaningless games to play out the season and the D did not really stand out against two bad teams and a good team with a mediocre offense, can anyone really be certain that in the final 3 games of 2018 Adams, Lancaster, and Lowry proved they could "play well" collectively in the NFL?
  2. Packers QB situation

    And the week before the 2016 NFCC slaughter in Atlanta, Rodgers threw for 355 yard and the offense put up 34 points in Dallas. Meanwhile, the vaunted Pack D held the Cowboys to 31 points. Oh, and for the record, the here are the Packers last 10 first round/top picks: 2012 Nick Perry OLB 2013 Datone Jones DE 2014 Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix 2015 Damarious Randall Safety (well in GB he was forced to play CB) 2016 Kenny Clark DT 2017 Kevin King CB (traded out of the first, King the first pick of the second round) 2018 Jaire Alexander CB 2019 Rashan Gary OLB & Darnell Savage Safety 2020 Jordan Love QB So, the Packers drafted defensive players nine consecutive times with their top pick until nine days ago when they drafted a QB.
  3. Packers QB situation

    Oh, don't get me wrong, I am in no way comparing Rodgers post-season accomplishments with those of Tom Brady. There is no comparison. Brady has been better than Rodgers in the playoffs. But Brady also benefitted from having a far, far superior supporting cast from GM to HC to the defense. For example, no one discounts Brady's role in the Pats 13-3 SB victory over the Rams in an obvious "team" win. And for context, consider that when Atlanta slaughtered GB 44-21 in the 2016 NFCC game, it marked the third time the Packers D had given up 44 or points in a playoff loss with Rodgers at QB. By contrast, at that point, Tom Brady's D in NE had never once given up 44 of more points ... in any of his 267 starts as a Patriot. The narrative that the Packers have somehow failed in the playoffs specifically or even principally due to Rodgers while ignoring the undeniable reality that Green Bay's defense has been mostly trash during those playoff defeats is straight bullcrap.
  4. Packers QB situation

    Rodgers certainly has not been great in NFC Championship games. But no one should ignore just how crappy the defenses have been in Green Bay since 2010 (with the 2019 D being a bit better ... until it got exposed as frauds by SF in the NFCC). Compare, for example the respective defensive scoring rankings of Green Bay and New England since Rodgers became the starter in 2008: 2019 - NE: 1 - GB: 9 2018 - NE: 7 - GB: 22 2017 - NE: 5 - GB: 26 2016 - NE: 1 - GB: 21 2015 - NE: 10 - GB: 12 2014 - NE: 8 - GB: 13 2013 - NE: 10 - GB: 24 2012 - NE: 9 - GB: 11 2011 - NE: 15 - GB: 19 2010 - NE: 8 - GB: 2 2009 - NE: 5 - GB: 7 2008 - NE: 8 - GB: 22 Avg: NE 7 - GB - 16 Brady had top 10 defenses every season for 12 years between 2008-2019 except one while Rodgers had 3 (in 2009 lost WC 51-45, 2010 won SB, and 2019 lost NFCC). The Packers defense has, if anything, performed even worse in the playoffs -- as SI made clear after the latest playoff debacle in January. "It wouldn’t be a Green Bay Packers playoff game without a defensive meltdown. Sunday’s NFC Championship Game, a 37-20 loss to the San Francisco 49ers, joins the pantheon of colossal defensive failures that have been a black eye on Aaron Rodgers’ playoff legacy. In his eight playoff losses, Green Bay has given up an average of 36.4 points and never held the opponent to less than 23." https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/another-playoff-loss-another-defensive-debacle How does that compare to Brady in New England? The Patriots under Brady gave up 33-plus just twice IN HIS PLAYOFF CAREER. They were 0-2 in those games.
  5. Packers 2020 WR Corps

    I think some are underselling just how bad Allison was in 2019 and just how much of an improvement Funchess will be if he has a season that, as you describe above, he is fully capable of having. That said, unless ESB or MVS breaks out, the WR grouping of Funchess, Lazard, and Davante is not exactly fast. I don't know how anyone can put much faith in MVS after what transpired last season, so here's hoping has a breakout 2020 because it looks like the Packers are going to really need him.
  6. Random Packer News & Notes

    I think the need to address glaring roster deficiencies elsewhere is probably the correct answer to the question of why there has been no 2nd round WR (or higher) selected in 7 years. Unfortunately, that roster redo did not exactly turn out as hoped when, immediately after D. Adams was selected in 2014, they went Rollins, Spriggs, J. Jones, and J. Jackson in round 2.
  7. 3.94 - Josiah Deguara [TE; Cincinnati]

    That is kind of harsh, don't you think?
  8. Aaron Rodgers Appreciation Thread 4.20

    Andrew Brandt, who was there on the inside when everything went down in GB during the Favre-Rodgers transition, wrote a piece in SI yesterday saying why, in regards to the Love-Rodgers transition, "I get it, but this cannot end well." Today on Rich Eisen's show, Favre says, regarding potential conflict involving Rodgers as a result of the selection of Love, "at some point it will rear its ugly head" and that (after speaking with Rodgers post-draft) he believes Rodgers will play somewhere other than Green Bay before his career is over. Brett has been known to blather on about any number of subjects, though he is uniquely positioned to opine on this one. Brandt is a shrewd observer not given to hysteria. There should be no shortage of drama (real or conjured up by the media) in Green Bay presuming football is played in 2020.
  9. 3.94 - Josiah Deguara [TE; Cincinnati]

    I'll noted Degaura's 4.72 40 time in response to yet another attempt to fluff the pick by claiming he might be the next Delanie Walker (whose 40 time was elite). Loving the player and the pick is on thing, pretending Deguara is a good pick because he could be the next Delanie Walker while ignoring their glaring speed differentials, is just ignorant.
  10. 3.94 - Josiah Deguara [TE; Cincinnati]

    Is 4.72 40 Deguara really being compared to Delanie Walker? Delanie Walker ran a 4.54 40. Speed was what separated Walker from the average Joe athlete. "According to a New York Times report last week, which analyzed data provided by Sportradar, Walker reached a top speed of 19.82 miles per hour during a play this season. No other tight end among the league’s other 31 franchises matched that burst." https://www.nashvillepost.com/sports/tennessee-titans/blog/20988072/walkers-speed-separates-him-from-rest-of-nfls-tight-ends There is a lot to like about Deguara's makeup, but he is not and never will be like Walker. His measurables are far more similar to 4.71 40 (pro day) Juszczyk.
  11. Random Packer News & Notes

    Through 2014, the previous GM repeatedly struck gold with his early WR selections - Jennings, J. Jones, Nelson, Cobb, and Adams. But since 2015, there has been a definite downward slide in WR talent in GB. 2015 is when Nelson tore his ACL, he had one more productive year (with Rodgers at QB) in 2016, did very little in 2017 (with Hundley at QB most of the year), and was sent off for a swan song in Oakland in 2018. Jones came back for one last dance in 2015, but was done after that. Cobb battled injury and just looked old his last few seasons in GB. He had a bounce back year as the 4th weapon in Dallas last year, so maybe he was underutilized ... but Rodgers always loved Randall so hard to figure that he froze him out. Adams has been the one force who has steadily gotten better and better at WR. If anything, TE has been worse. In 2015, Richard Rodgers was the prime target at TE. Cook flashed for a few games after his injury in 2016, but that was followed by the Bennet debacle and then the Graham signing, which while not a debacle certainly can't be considered a good move. Thus, while it is definitely deceiving to focus on the lack of 1st round picks Rodgers has had to throw to (given all the very good 2nd-3rd round picks at WR), it is also inaccurate to claim that Rodgers weapons in the passing game have not declined, and declined precipitously, since the last time the Pack used a pick in rounds 1-3 on a WR ... in 2014.
  12. 3.94 - Josiah Deguara [TE; Cincinnati]

    SF killed us in the NFC Championship game because they ran the ball over and over and over again and we could not stop it. Does anyone really Pettine and the D did not know the run was coming by halftime -- when they'd already gotten their ***** collectively handed to them?
  13. Total Take

    Andrew Brandt on the Love selection: The Packers have the most fortunate (and spoiled) front office and fan base in the NFL when it comes to the quarterback position. They have had a franchise quarterback leading their team for almost thirty years! And they now believe they have secured the future to hopefully continue that streak another 10-15 years with Jordan Love. I get it, but this cannot end well. https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/28/green-bay-packers-draft-jordan-love-aaron-rodgers-deja-vu?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_medium=social
  14. Random Packer News & Notes

    Yep. And then SI jumped on board by noting that all 31 NFL teams other than the Packers had selected a WR in rounds 1-3 over the past 5 years, just piling on with the unfair criticism of the Packers.
  15. Random Packer News & Notes

    During Rodgers time in GB, there has been quite a bit of investment in the WR (and to a lesser extent TE and now H-Back) position. But, as shown below, that investment is absolutely weighted to the early part of Rodgers career. 2005 Terrence Murphy. 2006 Jennings. 2007 James Jones (3rd). 2008 Nelson and Finley (3rd). 2011 Cobb 2011. 2012 2013 2014 Adams and Richard Rodgers (3rd). 2015 *** 2016 2017 2018 2019 Sternberger (3rd). 2020 Degaura (3rd). *** Montgomery (3rd) played WR for 6 games before transitioning to WR.