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  1. 2020 Draft thread

    I mean... Travis Kelce George Kittle Jason Witten Jimmy Graham Delanie Walker Jordan Reed Austin Hooper Mark Andrews A lot of the best TEs of the past few seasons were 3rd rounders or later. Not to mention Aaron Hernandez (who was a star when he was on the field) and guys like Jared Cook, Cooley, Julius Thomas, Owen Daniels, etc. who have looked pretty damn good at least for parts of their career. I think as the game has continued to evolve toward the passing offense, TE is starting to get moved up on the draft hierarchy, to the point that you’ll see them go in the 1st round or first few picks of the 2nd round — much like safety in that way — but it’s still one of the more common positions to find a true star in the mid-rounds.
  2. “Alexa, what’s the best way to set myself up for a coaching gig with the Ravens once my playing career is over...?”
  3. 2020 Draft thread

    Had a chance to watch the LSU offensive snaps from the Texas game from earlier this year on a break from court this morning. Burrow was definitely impressive. He looked excellent on a lot of levels, I can’t deny that. Ball placement was great, arm was good enough, made some very timely/gutty plays, and he’s a real good athlete. He made some risky throws that would’ve gotten picked at the next level (and instead turned into big plays at the college level), but that’s true of most college QBs. Texas wasn’t getting much in the way of pressure on him — I also saw him against Auburn, and he wasn’t quite as good when Derrick Brown and the boys were putting some heat on him. If they get #1, they’d have to consider him — but I’d still go elsewhere (Young or trade). I will say, though, it’s a hell of a lot easier to look great when you’ve got guys like Justin Jefferson and Jamarr Chase to work with. They both looked absolutely great. @PARROTHEAD, you mentioned earlier that Jefferson is 6’3 but doesn’t play like it, and that is so remarkably true. Watching him bend routes and turn upfield and adjust to balls, you’d think he’s 5’11 (maybe as much 6’1), and it’s shocking to realize how big he is. He’s super impressive. If we could get an early 2nd rounder, I’d love to use it on him if he makes it that far. Chase also looked like a complete stud, a man among boys despite being one of the younger guys on the field. I’d book him for a top 20 pick next year, as long as they can find a QB worthy of him. I’d also happily give Joe Brady the reins of our offense if he’d take it. His alma mater (THE College of William and Mary) is known for turning out excellent coaches, and his work there this season has been phenomenal. A Kris Richard/Joe Brady ticket is exactly what DC needs. EDITED to add that Edwards-Helaire is also damn impressive. He’s made some huge plays (in terms of impact, as much as yardage) out of nothing in each of the games I’ve had the chance to watch so far. He had a crazy 3rd down conversion in the 4th quarter against Alabama that was every bit as big as Burrow’s “Heisman moment.”
  4. Time to play the ole Play Index Game again. Here are the numbers from some familiar QBs’ second starts: Eli Manning: 6/21, 148 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 16.9 rating Matt Ryan: 13/33, 158 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 29.6 rating Steve Young: 8/17, 53 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 29.8 rating Alex Smith: 8/16, 92 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 41.7 rating Matt Hasselbeck: 9/24, 62 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 45.8 rating Joe Flacco: 13/19, 129 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 47.8 rating Peyton Manning: 21/33, 188 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs, 51.1 rating Donovan McNabb: 19/36, 155 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 51.3 rating Matthew Stafford: 18/30, 152 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 56.5 rating Lamar Jackson: 14/25, 178 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 58.4 rating Tom Brady: 12/24, 86 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 58.7 rating Cam Newton: 28/46, 432 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs, 72.0 rating Sam Darnold: 25/41, 334 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 74.6 rating Daniel Jones: 23/31, 225 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 78.0 rating Point being, rookie QBs are typically not good. Haskins is in a worse situation than most rookie QBs, with less experience to prepare him for the role. For the most part, the only guys who play well right out of the gate are the ones who got to sit for a long time, the ones who are superior athletes that can be competitive simply because of their sheer athleticism/physical talents, or the ones who have a great team around them. None of those is Haskins. And admittedly, it’s been even rockier than expected with him, I think. But it takes a while to develop a great NFL pocket passer, especially when you’re trying to grow them in an unhealthy environment. Many of the best QBs in history struggled mightily early on. They worked through it — I think we ought to give this guy a chance to do the same.
  5. #FireBruceAllen

    I don’t think Bruce could possibly have predicted that they’d be staring down the barrel of 1-15. I know a lot of people were more bearish on the team than I was — I thought 6-7 wins with Keenum and an eventual transition to Haskins — but the worst team in franchise history? Potentially two full games worse than Shanahan’s awful last year? Potentially three full games worse than the absurd last year of Zorn? Potentially four full games worse than the trainwreck last year of Spurrier? He probably expected that they’d be below-average, he could use firing Manusky or even Gruden as cover, and he could play on the optimism that would accompany a young QB who showed flashes or a lot of reason for hope as a rookie. I can’t imagine he would have been expecting what it’s turned out to be.
  6. Knowing the whole context, I do get a sense that there was some frustration with the offensive coaching staff behind the “simple math” comment. Kind of a “they set us up to fail” type sentiment, in that he’s basically saying they never had a chance to block it up when Williams was bringing more than they could possibly handle up front. Maybe he thinks the answer was keeping more guys in to protect, maybe it was more screens/draws, maybe Haskins just should have been able to recognize it and audible/go hot, who knows — but it sounds a bit like he’s suggesting the coaching staff hung them out to dry with the play calls and gameplan.
  7. He is in over his head. His background didn’t sufficiently prepare him to do this job, he’s learning as he goes along, and none of the people around him — neither the players nor the coaches nor the management — are doing much to help him. Not many rookie QBs in recent memory could have been successful under these circumstances: head coach fired before he ever made a start; prehistoric offensive scheme implemented by an OL coach and a kid who started calling plays for the first time a month ago; exactly one receiver (a fellow rookie) who can get open; largely ineffective run game; an OL that, at best, isn’t doing him many favors; a horrendously porous defense; and arguably the most dysfunctional organization providing consistent chaos around him. How many rookies wouldn’t be in over their heads under those circumstances? The question is how well he progresses, and how much the organization and roster progress around him. Hopefully they give him a fighting chance.
  8. I feel a lot better having seen that, honestly. It was really bothering me to think that veteran guys on this team — especially the interim coach’s “guys” — would be rebuffing the young QB like that. They still need to cut bait with a lot of these guys, but it makes me feel better to know there’s not actually any substantial hard feelings or disconnect there.
  9. If I never see Scherff or Moses in a Redskins uniform again after this year, I’m cool with it. Maybe he wasn’t saying the right things, and maybe they think he should already be able to do the things he’s struggling with — but if your approach is to just stiff-arm the rookie QB when he comes to you in an attempt to show some fire and leadership, then you’re not for the team. And I’m not for you. I would franchise and trade Scherff and just flat-out cut Moses. Give me two 2nds for Trent and Scherff, in addition to our early 3rd and (eventually) multiple 4ths, and we’re starting to build up the pick assets to rebuild the OL on the fly. Perhaps a 3rd for Kerrigan as well. The loyalty I feel toward the long-term players on this team is disintegrating by the day. Yes, the team is poorly managed. Maybe it’s not their fault that they’ve become accustomed to losing. But they have, and I’m pretty much done with them. It’s time to build around the young guys (Haskins, Guice, McLaurin, maybe Roullier on offense, Bama boys and Greek/Dunbar/Sweat on defense). These guys are infected with the toxicity of this organization, and I don’t know that any new coach/GM would be able to cure that. Not in time for them to be useful compatriots for the young guys who need a positive environment to develop in right now, at least.
  10. Gameday Thread: Prepare for takeoff!

    This attitude from the same OL who get on their high horse about how complicated OL play is and how no one who doesn’t do it could ever understand it — every time a PFF or other evaluator says they suck. Is it just simple math or is Haskins trying to observe and interpret the artful dance and mysterious science of 5 geniuses who are part Rembrandt, part Newton? It’s past time for Morgan Moses to be gone. I used to really like and respect him, especially for his toughness, but he talks WAY too damn much for a guy who can’t really play. In applying the proper analytical standard of WWBD (What Would Belichick Do?), it’s really hard to imagine him keeping a guy with 23 penalties in his last 26 games, a penchant for getting beat, and a big yap that he can’t keep shut.
  11. Gameday Thread: Prepare for takeoff!

    He needs to be protected, his mechanics under pressure are abysmal at this point — but man, when you let him get comfortable, the guy throws absolute ropes. You’re going to have to protect me from myself, because I keep thinking about much I’d love to see him with a duo of Jeudy and McLaurin (who is an absolute MF stud, btw) and pick up some bonus picks to draft OL. And about how I might prefer that to drafting Young. If they get the #1 pick, this draft process is going to be excruciating (in a good way, I guess).
  12. Gameday Thread: Prepare for takeoff!

    I mean I get it, I’m disappointed in how he looks so far too. But the sweeping pronouncements of inevitable failure because he looks bad in his second start are too much to stomach.
  13. Gameday Thread: Prepare for takeoff!

    If this is how it’s gonna be here while we’re trying to develop a young QB — short sighted, ludicrously impatient, incessant negativity and animosity — I think it might be about time for me to go back on vacation.
  14. Gameday Thread: Prepare for takeoff!

    “Coach Gruden ain’t here.” Which, incidentally, is why we can’t score 🤷🏻‍♂️
  15. Much better. In a short-term lens, at least. In fairness, they were closer to 6-4 than 6-3 when he went down (trailing Houston 17-7 halfway through the 3rd quarter) — although they did actually come back to take the lead behind McCoy before eventually losing the game at the end. They weren’t that good a team, as their point differential coming into the game was just +1, despite their record. And they were coming off the flukiest of wins, somehow holding Tampa Bay to 3 points even though they rolled up 500+ yards of offense (it was dark FitzMagic that day). But they would have contended for the playoffs, undoubtedly. Philly made it (and won a game) at 9-7, so even if they dropped the Houston game, they just needed to finish 3-3 to be in that range. They probably would have done that with Smith. The disarray and hopelessness that set in after Smith’s injury — and more accurately, after McCoy then broke his leg in the next game against Dallas — would not have come about, had they not been forced to go from leading the division by two games to rolling out Mark Sanchez and Josh Johnson as their starting QB down the stretch. They would have done enough to be close to the mix. And they’d be better this year, undoubtedly. Gruden’s offense is tough to grasp, but it’s made for a guy like Smith. With another offseason to master it, he would have been more effective this year. Those strides likely would have been negated to some degree by not having Trent Williams and the defense taking a step back — but I think that disarray and hopelessness I referenced earlier would have been largely diminished with a QB like Smith at the helm that was The Guy™️, and I think the rest of the team would have played better with that sort of unquestioned leadership and direction. Probably something resembling their 2018 point differential from before he got hurt, like 4-5 or 5-4 at best. From a long-term sense, though, they would have been worse off. Having Smith (and Gruden with a decent QB to work with) dragging that team to respectability was giving the FO cover to continue with more of the same. You can still hear it now in their comments — they think they can say “we were close” with a straight face because Smith’s style of ball control offense and an opportunistic defense somehow had us at 6-3 and leading the division last year. Now, the emperor has no clothes. Everyone sees them for what they are, which is an abject failure at every level of running an organization. Which is what this franchise needed, a whole lot more than it needed a first round playoff exit for a 9-8 team. They absolutely wouldn’t have drafted Haskins at #15 if they had Smith. They would have been in full “go for it” mode. They might have taken Hollywood Brown (who they supposedly loved), but they had a big hole at OLB and I think it’s more likely that they would have just taken Burns or Sweat there and saved the 2nd rounder this year they gave up to move back up for Sweat. I think they would have hit FA a little harder looking for starters, so that might have been a short-term boost, but it wouldn’t have moved the needle in any meaningful way. It would have just been the same old Redskins: chasing mediocrity with the blind hope that they’d somehow stumble into something better. I don’t know if any positive organizational change and long-term evolution/progress will flow from this season, which looks like it will be the worst and arguably most embarrassing of Snyder’s tenure. But I can say with great certainty that if Alex Smith was still here, he would have spared the Redskins the outright humiliation of this blazing dumpster fire of a season and saved a lot of jobs — and that’s the cruelest thing he could have done to Redskins fans.
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