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  1. Duke fires his agent

    Is he even though? I'd take all of these guys for that role before him.. Matt Breida Jerrick McKinnon James White Tarik Cohen Kenyan Drake Nyheim Hines Austin Ekeler Justin Jackson Jalen Richard Theo Riddick Dion Lewis Chris Thompson
  2. Official 2020 WR Thread

    I get this. At his size, he plays a little soft. If he learns to consistently bully guys his stock will soar. He reminds me right now of a skinny Devin Funchess. Okay speed with a solid get off. Decent foot quickness for a long limbed guy. Can make acrobat catches. But his physicality doesn't match his physical make up.
  3. The 2014 Draft - How Did You Do?

    2014 Guys I was higher on: Greg Robinson Anthony Barr Johnny Manziel Chris Borland Devonta Freeman Jason Verrett Kyle Van Noy Mike Evans Scott Crighton Joel Bitonio Rico Allen Jemea Thomas Tom Savage Jeremy Gallon ------------ 2014 Guys I was lower on: Sammy Watkins Kelvin Benjamin Khalil Mack Allen Robinson Rashad Hageman Kony Ealy Xavier Su’a-Filo Deone Buchannon Louis Nix Jimmy Garoppolo --------------------------- Dug up some stuff I wrote from the 2014 draft: Derek Carr Logan Thomas Manziel Kyle Van Noy Devonta Freeman Blake Bortles
  4. RB Considerations... Duke Johnson & More

    I'm sure many players believe they're the best out there, but I think someone in their employ has got to be objective and give them perspective. Great record setting college career but he was just a mid 3rd round prospect. He's averaged just 75 carries a season for his career despite not missing any games...that's less than 5 carries a game for four seasons. And he's got a pretty high fumble rate on those limited carries. Good stats as a pass catching back, but for his first 3 seasons it was on a team that averaged just over 1 win a season. And as you said much of it was on poor passing teams. That makes his catching stats less relevant imo, not something to tout...the outlet RB is the easiest option for a bad offense. His most wins actually came when he was used the least...last season. He's had four pretty good coordinators and none of them thought he was a lead type guy. In fact his usage has diminished every year.
  5. RB Considerations... Duke Johnson & More

    If Duke saw himself as a limited role player would he even have requested a trade? Imo this is about the evaluation of the player. After giving him that contract the FO now has second thoughts after further evaluating his play. While Duke views himself as a lead type back. The organizational reputation when Dorsey got here was that they let talent walk. Dorsey made sure Duke wasn't going anywhere...but it was just a bad contract. He may be all the things you mentioned but he's also not an impactful player. That's why he went on the trade block... and that's why Duke takes such offense to it.
  6. The (Potential) 2020 Draft RB Class

    Yes, I'm probably too high in him. I've got a thing for guys that play above their size and speed. His elusiveness and balance is special but he can't match Swift's explosion. Could come down to durability though
  7. Official 2020 TE Thread

  8. Official 2020 OT/IOL Thread

    Not a strong class at all to me right now before diving in to anyone. I guess at OT I like Eichenberg as a LT, and Thomas at RT but after that... I do think Trey Smith could stay outside and his versatility will boost his stock. And I like Michigan St's Cole Chewins as a sleeper. Inside I like Kraemer and for a sleeper rn, Kansas St's Tyler Mitchell.
  9. RB Considerations... Duke Johnson & More

    Duke made it clear the only reason he's at camp is because he has to be. He claimed he understood the nature of the business but then said there's nothing that could repair the relationship. That's a distraction. If he had good solidiered it and said I can't control blah, blah all I can do is play football, blah, blah.. Baker wouldn't have said anything. Baker responded about a guy that's causing a distraction and said he wants to be traded. It's all off the cuff and emotional but it's warranted. @Mind Character Being put on the trade block may have broke the camel's back but you don't really want a guy around that's even quietly fuming about his role. Especially an expensive one. Regardless of when he formally asked out, he hasn't been happy with his usage since early Hue. It's entirely possible that all of this went into the decision to shop him in the first place.
  10. RB Considerations... Duke Johnson & More

    @Mind Character No, no, no. Duke didn't suddenly want out when he found out the team had shopped him...he was already unhappy about his role. That's the crux of it. He thinks he's more than just a limited role player. I'd imagine the team shopped him because, essentially, they don't agree and they recognize they're paying him more than he's worth. It's self inflicted because the guy thinks he's better then he is and became disgruntled over his role, then offended he was being shopped around.
  11. RB Considerations... Duke Johnson & More

    4.3 career. 3.6 the one time he had over a 100 carries.
  12. New OBJ/Nike Commercial

    When I watch this I have to say I'm somewhere between sour and I told ya so about the Browns unis, that most everyone loves now, being more or less identical to my January 2015 concepts that I was pimping around... .
  13. 2019 Off-Season Roster Building: Free Agency & Draft

    Because nearly every other team's #2 jag is better than our jag. ..and because our #1 TE has a problem with drops.
  14. Starting Day O-Line

    Harrison was a mixed bag initially as a starter. He had his moments throwing guys around and showing his athletic ability before the lowlights took over. He's talented with plenty upside. If he's cut it'll be because of his mental approach..iow not being a professional..not his ability.
  15. RB Considerations... Duke Johnson & More

    He's underutilized like Ameer Abdullah or Dexter McCluster were.....IOW he's just not that good. It's not just this forum tho. Duke put up okay numbers on a terrible team with weak receiving talent as an outlet RB. That's not really hard to do. Jalen Richard had 78 catches last year...you don't hear much about him being one of the better RBs out there...and his numbers are arguably better over the last couple years. Duke's not a good runner out of the back field. He's not a chunk play threat. He's not clutch/reliable. And he's always suffered nagging injuries despite not missing games. He's overpaid and now he's unhappy about his role. Depth isn't as great as it looks on paper this year. Hunt is a beast but won't be available for most of the year. Chubb is a beast but had an injury history in college. Duke is a poor runner out of the backfield and Hilliard is a jag.
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