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  1. Raiders release Jordy Nelson

    Jordy Nelson isn't slow. NFL NextGenStats posts the top 20 fastest ball carriers each week of the season. In 2018, Nelson made the top 20 three times, our Marquez Valdes-Scantling also three times, Davante Adams twice, and Trevor Davis once (not bad for only touching the ball 5 or 6 times). No other Green Bay players made the list. Fastest time for each player 2018- 21.97 mpg- Jordy Nelson 21.13- Marquez Valdes-Scantling 20.35- Trevor Davis 20.23- Davante Adams Jordy Nelson was faster than every player on our team last year.
  2. I'm with you. There's no reason for all those hamstring injuries, no reason at all.
  3. Wide Receiver Outlook

    Certainly- https://thebiglead.com/2015/11/18/fielding-punts-inside-the-10-in-the-nfl-what-do-the-facts-show/
  4. Wide Receiver Outlook

    1) 78% of punts that land between the 9 yard line and the 5 do NOT end up in the end zone. 2) The 3 yard line is the Mendoza line for fielding punts these days. He fielded the punts exactly where he should have. Why would you say he's just as likely to muff a ball as break a long return? He had 0 muffs last year, and 21% of his returns went for over 20 yards (2 of them got called back). He was rated by Pro Football Focus as the #1 punt returner in the league last year, in part because of no muffs.
  5. Wide Receiver Outlook

    Notre Dame had a team QB completion percentage of 51.7%. ESB had a catch rate of 44.6%. The next most targeted receiver at Notre Dame was a Sophomore named Claypool (6-4 228). His catch rate was 64.4%.
  6. Browns trade WR Corey Coleman to the Bills

    Haha, I know what you mean. But they were just straight stats, nothing that PFF could mess up.
  7. Browns trade WR Corey Coleman to the Bills

    Coleman was drafted in the first round, but he wasn't even the 50th best receiver in his class. This trade certainly proves it. Coleman's primary problem is drops, he dropped one out of every 13 passes thrown his way. That's bad, really bad. And Dez Bryant dropped one out of every 11 passes at Dallas last year, even worse than Coleman. Laquon Treadwell was another over valued receiver in the 2016 class, 38th best yet drafted in the first round. Last year his drops were fine, 1 drop in 34 passes. His QB Keenan's passer rating for the year was was 94.5, but when he threw to Treadwell his rating was only 51.1. So something is haywire with Treadwell, since it's not drops, maybe he's not getting enough separation so he can't make the catches. He is pretty slow, he didn't even run at the Combine so no one would know how slow he really was. Pro day 40 times don't count. His QB's completion % was 66.4%, but Treadwell's catch rate was 59%. So since Treadwell wasn't dropping the ball, I don't think he was getting open. All stats from Pro Football Focus
  8. Wide Receiver Outlook

    Sarcasm? Not at all. "Production" is helpful, but doesn't measure how good the player is. It only tells you that the player is durable. But how efficient is the receiver with the targets he receives? In Davis's senior year at Cal, 6 receivers had 40 targets or more (all 5 seniors subsequently made 53 man NFL rosters). Cal clearly spread the ball around, but what did Davis do with his 55 targets? Let's check hands first, senior year stats- Davis- catch rate 72.7% / 64% Cal QB completion rate = 1.14 (72.7/64=1.14). An average receiver would have a divisor of 1.0 (64%/64%=1) Nelson- 75.5/63.1 = 1.2 Adams- 74.9/68.1 = 1.1 Explosiveness after the catch- Davis- 12.2 yards per target/QB's 8.74 yards per pass = 1.51 Nelson- 10.0/6.72 = 1.49 Adams- 7.9/7.6 = 1.3 Add the numbers Davis 1.14 hands + 1.51 explosiveness = 2.65 (an elite number) Nelson 1.2 + 1.49 = 2.69 elite Adams 1.1 + 1.3 = 2.4 a hair short of elite Would you rather have Davis or Laquon Treadwell of the Viqueens, who was a 1st round pick? Treadwell's been a bit of a washout his first two years at Minnesota. His senior year college stats- Hands- 1.05 + explosiveness 1.08 = 2.13. Above average numbers, but not 1st round, more like 7th round or UDFA. Would you rather have Corey Coleman, also a 1st round pick, instead of Davis? His senior year stats- 1.04 hands 1.17 explosiveness = 2.21. After accounting for strength of schedule, Coleman was ranked the 49th best receiver in the country according to these stats. Last year for the Browns his catch rate for 58 targets was an abysmal 39.7%. Which divided by Cleveland's QB completion rate of 54% give him a hands number this year of .73, a number so low I've never seen it before. The Browns got a BAD deal. Ted Thompson is smarter than you guys think. Like I said, Davis is a helluva receiver.
  9. Wide Receiver Outlook

    What more do you want Davis to do? He caught 100% of his kickoffs, 100% of his punts, and 100% of the passes thrown to him. He had 0 kickoff return fumbles, 0 punt fumbles, 0 fumbles after catching a pass. He was 3rd in the entire NFL for yards per average yards per punt return, and 7th in average yards per kick return. He was easily one of the top 5 of college receivers in his senior year (I'm a Cal fan, that's when I first noticed Davis), we got him for a song. He had some amazing college stats his senior year, comparable to both Davante Adams and Jordy Nelson. He's a great returner and a helluva receiver.
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