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I refuse to provide information in a game I'm not involved in. That being said, Dome is right.

I forgot about that. Though, to be fair, in S8 Tyrion completely forgets literally everything he's ever said about Cersei so that's understandable. "Hey, I know Cersei betrayed us after saying she'd send the Lannister army north, and she just slaughtered your dragon, but let's go talk to her! She's reasonable!"

I thought that decision made a ton of sense, really. She's only going to believe what she herself sees, so seeing a wight in the flesh like that, she can't deny it's existence and it forces her to make a choice. If she sends a trusted scout, she may still call it a lie.

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Couldn't they have just invaded Castle Black again with the Giants, same way they did in S3(?) but without Jon there taking Castle Black would've been easier. Maybe. Idk.

They destroyed the Iron Throne but then a bunch of Starks installed a Stark as the King. I'm sure that's never going to lead to any conflict, as transitions of power in Westeros are generally very peaceful. But yeah I mean revealing Jon to be the true heir and even playing the "he's the true heir" card all the way up to the very end, including having Varys apparently spreading news about it only for it to mean nothing was....meh. Literally nothing in the show supports this train of thought. In the books, dragons are smart. Not really in the show. Drogon has no reason not to let Grey Worm through, or any of her other advisers. Jon gave the NK a dragon when he tried to go north to bring back one of the dead, resulting in the NK destroying the wall. Though I could also see it being argued that Bran brought the dead south. Remember, before the NK touched Bran he couldn't enter the Cave where the CotF lived. Afterwards he could, because he is marked. Once Bran went south of the wall, so too could the dead.

You're right, that would've been nice to know because otherwise there's no point in believing that Rhaegar chose Lyanna for some special purpose, and instead suggests he liked her because she was a beautiful woman and needed to make a son for his prophecy.

Really? Why not? What if Grey Worm had something important to tell Dany? And now what they instead chose to do was have all the Starks and their friends choose a Stark to sit on the throne very democratic, indeed.

Okay so basically it could've literally been any random girl from the North and fulfilled that description. There was nothing special about Lyanna herself that fit the prophecy.

Him being a Targaryen mattered, sure, but not him being the heir to the throne. Hell, even if he wasn't a Targ and he was just Jon Snow, loyal adviser to Dany, do you still think Drogon would've not let him through? I agree this would've been a better end to Dany.

It's weird to me that the other dog names are very easy to connect the fates of the Starks, but you have to go to some rather extreme lengths to do Shaggy Dog and Grey Wind for Rickon and Robb.

Ultimately, what did Varys' betrayal do for the story line besides end his character? We saw him writing letters, but those obviously never culminated in anything happening either. Tyrion betrayed Dany and what was the result of that? He got to pick the new king! I mean, I'm just not really seeing the overall point of telling the viewers that Jon was a Targ and then telling viewers that the implication of that is Jon is the true heir to the throne. Why not instead tell viewers that he's the Prince Who Was Promised? There's literally no mention of that whole thing after Mel dies. Jon still could've killed Dany because he was the closest person in her council not named Tyrion or Grey Worm at this point. He didn't have to know he was a Targ to get past Drogon, it could've been a thing that fans could theorize about later. It could be debated either way, really. The Faceless men obviously use magic with the faces, so it's not really like a Dragon would not be fooled by that. I do agree there, I just don't think that revealing his lineage and connecting it with the throne really culminated in anything. If they wanted to go down the "Jon's the only person who can kill Dany because he's a Targaryen" that would've been much more interesting.

But is that because Lyanna has to do with the prophecy herself, or could it have been with any other random girl?