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  1. I really like Lock. Elway has drafted arguably the most physically talented QB in the draft 3x now (Osweiler, Lynch, Lock) and Lock is fat and away physically more talented than Osweiler/Lynch. 6’4” 230 pounders with an at worst borderline elite arm with 4.61 speed don’t grow on trees. Obviously at the NFL level physical talent doesn’t translate to success, but Lock didn’t have an easy college career. He played on terrible teams at Missouri. He also played in the SEC. He had IIRC, 3 (maybe 4) different OCs in his career. I love the fact that he still improved every season and this past season with a more NFL style OC instead of the spread college crap. He may not succeed and he still needs development. But he’s no doubt a tough competitor that has dealt with change/adversity.
  2. I don’t think it’s antiquated, but definitely think it’s much more difficult to accomplish in today’s NFL than say from the 90s to mid 2000s. They’ve put in place rules on cut blocking and NFL defensive lineman are getting more explosive by the year and being able to penetrate a zone blocking run play is what kills it. Every team in the NFL runs a combination of both zone and power. Some leaning more heavily on zone and others more power, Denver will be more heavily zone. The interesting part with Denver is this is probably the best OL Elway has put together on paper and even PFF thinks so ranking them the 12th best OL going into the season (Broncos fans have always trashed the OL and they haven’t been great, but they haven’t been near as bad as made out to be) We will see if it comes to fruition, but Munchak is about as good as it gets when it comes to coaching the OL so I think Denver fields as good of an OL as we’ve seen in a decade. I will add, however, Denver’s depth looks a bit thin should (more likely when) injuries occur to that unit. Wilkinson has experience at both OG and OT, Sam Jones at OG/OC, but I’ve been reading that Barclay and another OG I haven’t heard of have been the 2 players spelling Leary as he recovers from the torn achilles. To counter that, though, Risner has been one of the best graded RT’s in the history of PFF and James has some experience at LT, so Denver could get creative in its ability to replace injuries.
  3. Training Camp Notes & Observations

    Johnson is definitely talented it’ll be interesting to see how he develops after so many years away from football. The ILB position in general is one of the most interesting positions to watch this offseason. Fangio has always had/developed pro bowl caliber players at the position. Davis/Jewell are steady, but not spectacular. Justin Hollins (along with Johnson) is the other interesting name. He’s already getting 1st team reps as the nickel LB, but doesn’t have a lot of experience there. Also a big ILB at 6’5” 250 and ran a 4.50 40, for comparison those are pretty much identical numbers to Noah Fant, who we took in the 1st round and who is considered an elite athlete at TE.
  4. Team Needs

    Well I think there are some caveats to this as there are young players we still don’t know about that are currently on the roster. For example, QB, the team just drafted Drew Lock and while he’s an unknown, he is the QB of the future so I wouldn’t consider it a “need” in that sense right now. As for Denver’s current roster this season and where there are questions not only this year but moving forward I would list them like this. 1. ILB- Davis/Jewell is solid on run downs. Davis has shown he isn’t a pass down LB and Jewell while better isn’t much more than average. NFL defenses have to have at least 1 capable cover LB and the jury is still out if that’s on the roster. 2. DB- I actually like what Denver has done at DB this offseason, but the depth is questionable. You have to be able to cover in today’s NFL and Denver’s depth/future is questionable. 3. IOL/DL- Much like #2, I like what Denver has done this year, but the future of these 2 units needs depth/talent. 4. WR- I am in the camp of not paying or over drafting a WR unless it’s truly a special/HoF type talent. It’s just so dependent on other factors. However, Denver’s receiving weapons are minimal. I like both Sutton/Hamilton, but overall the weapons on the outside leave a lot to be desired. Sanders, one of my all time favorite Broncos is 32 and coming off a torn achilles. The talent at WR is among the worst in the NFL.
  5. I agree with others. We won’t see Lock until this team is mathematically out of the playoffs unless Flacco gets hurt, obviously.
  6. Random Thoughts

    Kevin Durant has made an exceptional amount of money in the NBA, but what happened to him last night with the achilles tear is the exact reason why, as a player, you take as much money as you can get as quick as you can get it. I am someone that thinks these contracts are getting ridiculously out of control (especially in baseball), but I don’t fault any player that goes after the money, if I had the ability to negotiate my pay or go to the highest bidder you’d better believe I’d be doing it.
  7. Mini-Camp Notes

    I get there are obvious concerns with Leary. I also don’t doubt for a second Denver tried to trade him with his contract. I am going to go optimistic here, though. He won’t be what he was year 1 in Denver (where he had a PFF grade in the top 8 OGs), but I think he returns to good enough form (maybe still not worth the money) that helps Denver have the best OL they’ve fielded under Elway.
  8. Mini-Camp Notes

    Leary also said the plan is for him to move back to RG. So the starting OL as of now would be LT Bolles, LG Risner, OC McGovern, RG Leary, RT James. As of now unless a player emerges or Denver goes and gets someone the depth is Sam Jones (whose worked at OC/OG) and Elijah Wilkinson (who started at OG at times last year and supposedly can play RT).
  9. Mini-Camp Notes

    Ron Leary reportedly with no restrictions in practice. He may not be the same and could be a camp causality, but if he’s healthy and near his previous form that is HUGE for this OL. On paper probably the best OL Elway has put together.
  10. I think something else that is being forgotten is Fangio’s input. Most of the players we’re talking about are on the defensive side of the ball. Fangio doesn’t have final say in decisions, but you’d better believe his opinion carries a ton of weight. He either may not want to re-sign these guys or he may want a chance to actually coach them and get to know them before handing out extensions. If I were an HC (with an incredible resume on the defensive side of the ball) I’d be absolutely pissed if my GM were giving out long term contracts to borderline players without me having a shot to see what they were all about.
  11. I think you’re over blowing this a bit. For starters, the young players you want extended aren’t better than average and average is probably being generous. Gotsis is a solid run defender, has flashed getting to the QB here and there, but thus far hasn’t shown much outside of being a nice rotational/depth piece, Parks is in that same boat. He’s flashed some, adds versatility and depth at DB as he can play some nickel CB and safety, but I think you’re a bit ahead of yourself on him, he’s physically limited. As far as Simmons, he’s proven to be a borderline starter, has some nice flashes, but leaves a lot to be desired. In the case of all 3 I wouldn’t offer them any more than borderline starter/rotational money. They haven’t done anything to warrant more than that. The name you’re leaving off and by far the best young player Denver has hitting the market next year is Shelby Harris. However, even he is a risk this early in the process as he hasn’t had any sustained success in the NFL. As far as money tied up in older players, that really only applies to Flacco, Wolfe, Harris, Sanders, Jackson as of right now. Denver can cut Flacco at any point without any dead money, he’s literally all reward and no risk (especially with Lock sitting behind him, but I’ll get into that later). Wolfe is a FA at the end of the year, it’s not like he’s on a long term contract, yes Denver could cut him, but why? To sign someone else this year to try and compete? Or to shell out money to all those young players you mentioned who are borderline starters? Denver can just let him walk next year and the money can be used the same way (this same point goes with Sanders as well). Denver could trade Harris, but who knows what they’ve been offered and holding onto him until the trade deadline when teams are looking to make moves to gain a playoff edge may be the smart play if he is traded (though I doubt he is). Further, they can let him walk and use the money elsewhere next year. But to disprove your point the only money tied up long term on an older veteran is with Jackson, basically Denver has no money tied up in older veterans, everyone but Jackson is on the last year of their deal. Now, I think Elway has done an exceptional job of balancing being competitive and building for the future, which I have been pleasantly surprised by as he’s seemed to be in win now mode. The 2019 draft is a perfect example of this. Noah Fant is not a “win now” selection. He’ll contribute this year and I think he can have a better than average year for a rookie TE in this system, but TEs typically take 1, 2, sometimes more years before they really hit their stride, I know many believe it’s the 2nd most difficult position to learn in the NFL after QB. The Drew Lock pick was not a “win now” pick, that was a future pick, clearly and I don’t think I have to go into why. At the end of the day Elway has set this team up to be as competitive as possible now as well as did a fantastic job of setting them up for the future with a young QB and the potential to use money for 2020 to sign players already on the roster or target FA.
  12. Vic Fangio coached Amos in Chicago and I’d be incredibly surprised if Fangio didn’t have a say in the FA signings, especially on the defensive side of the ball. IMO, Fangio prefered Jackson to Amos and is probably the biggest reason Denver went Jackson > Amos, especially at the money Jackson commanded. Jackson offers versatility Amos doesn’t and versatility in today’s NFL is more valuable than ever. It could’ve been a bad move because I really like Amos and he’s an exceptional safety who can cover and is as sure a tackler as they come, plus he was cheaper and younger. On the flip side though, Jackson can play outside CB, nickel CB, Safety, and has been arguably the best run defending CB in football through the years. The age and price are what hang me up with this signing, but Fangio is regarded as defensive mastermind and I don’t doubt for a second he didn’t have a lot of influence with this signing, so I’m not going to complain yet.
  13. Are you smarter than our front office v.2019

    Agreed and what I am hoping for as well. He isn’t our long term answer, IMO, but if he can keep the mistakes to a minimum and keep defenses honest I’ll be happy.
  14. Mini-Camp Notes

    For me so far the most interesting storyline is the use of Hollins. He reportedly was playing as an edge player on early downs and kicking to cover ILB in passing situations. I love the attempt at some creativity whether it works out or not. It just makes me appreciate the Hollins pick in the 5th round even more. Whether it pans out or not, Hollins at worst is a solid depth player as a rotational rusher/depth, but the fact they had bigger aspirations for a 5th round pick is what excites me about this new staff.
  15. Are you smarter than our front office v.2019

    I think Flacco can be better than what he has been the last 3-4 years, but I doubt he’s a carry the team type of performer. I love what he brings in playoff experience as well as the arm to stretch the field (something I think severely hindered this offense with Siemian and Keenum). I’ll be very happy if he is able to help keep Denver competitive for the next year or 2 as a bridge to Lock.
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