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  1. Joe Thomas; Sam Darnold IS a BUST

    Please don’t use logical arguments. It’s not the FF way. It’s no biggie, but the title is nowhere close to what Thomas said.
  2. Broncos @ Chargers GDT

    Geez, on paper, not much to be hopeful for: 1. Their OL vs. our DL & EDGE's - their G's Feeney & Lamp, along with C Pouncey, really have solidified their OL. They have a strong run game, and their pass pro is excellent. We'll still offer a stiff test there, but this isn't a huge mismatch like when we faced HOU or ARI. 2. Their WR's/TE's/RB's vs. our pass coverage - we all know about Keenan Allen, and losing Hunter Henry was a huge blow to them. But their 2nd year WR Mike Williams, and Tyrell Williams, and the lethal 1-2 combo of MG3 and Ekeler at RB as pass catchers give them so many weapons - and we know how vulnerable we are outside of CHJ. 3. MG3's ascendance - he's not an elite-level pure talent like Gurley or Kamara. But he's really improved as a player, and now with a top 5 OL, he's become an elite-level RB - he gets what's there, unlike past years he doesn’t leave yards on the field and has learned to get small and get the tough yards. He can still hit the home run, and he's an absolute threat in the pass game. And when he takes a breather, Ekeler's not much of a break. 4. Their pass rush vs. our OL - even without Bosa, their DL was starting to really come around, and 2nd round pick OLB Nwosu added more pass rush chops. Now with Bosa back, and us down to McGovern at C and 2 backups playing G, and our T's already a huge pass rush liability...man, I dunno. Bosa, Ingram, Nwosu must be licking their chops, along with.... 5. Derwin James as a blister and vs. our TE's / RB's - James was a huge draft gain, should never have fallen out of the top 10...he just adds to an already impressive secondary. He's a huge reason why LAC is the #1 D vs. TE's. Such a playmaker in the mold of a Ronnie Lott. 6. Our WR’s vs. their CB’s - Sanders in the slot vs. Desmond King is a key battle as King has been better of late whole experiencing a sophomore slump, after a fantastic rookie year. CB Casey Hayward remains a true island CB and so Sutton / Sanders outside will have their hands full. 7. Their run D vs. our run game - if there's one advantage, it's that they've lost their centrepiece Mike, Denzel Perryman. He was a huge reason for the Charger's sieve-like run D being much-improved. It will be interesting to see how they adapt to his loss. 8. Their ST's vs. ours - they've even addressed this weakness, as K Caleb Sturgis, a huge liability in their ST's, is gone. Their rookie K Badgley made all the kicks in his first 2 games, so interesting to see if he can keep it up. 9. Their coaching vs. ours - gone are the days where Mike McCoy would play a vanilla gameplan, and worsen their chances of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. HC Anthony Lynn may not be an elite young mind, but he's miles ahead of what McCoy & co. used to bring. Add it up, about the only thing where we have hope besides winning the run game battle on O, is that their HFA isn't really there - it's more of a neutral site game. But other than that...man, it's rough. And I didn't even get to the fact that Rivers as QB is so much more than Keenum could ever hope to be. The spread is LAC -7, and frankly, I don't even think covering is something we can aspire to unless we can win the TO battle by at least 2+. Going to be an ugly run, with LAC first, then PIT next week. UGH. At least this helps us pick earlier with each L. We'll need it...and hey, we can watch the kids play.
  3. Nick Bosa vs Ed Oliver

    Unconfirmed or not, there's a belief that Oliver is thinking hard of pulling a Nick Bosa. The OBJ-like show pre-game probably didn't help that perception. I actually don't have a problem with Bosa for what he did, or if Oliver is thinking about doing the same, but obviously HOU might feel differently, if he's just playing out the string. I do think if he's thinking about doing it, he should just be upfront about it, and not string the team along. After what happened last night, though, whether it was premeditated before last night, now I wouldn't be surprised to see Oliver pull a Bosa now and declare for the NFL draft, and sit out the rest of the season.
  4. TNF GDT: Green Bay Packers at Seattle Seahawks

    It's all good. It was more some levity given a very clear bait post there by Rammy. The "be better" comment was just to highlight some posts are clearly for entertainment value more than serious...but then again, I forget it's hard to see stuff like that the day after a heartbreaking loss. Sadly, it's been 2+ years since DEN's played games that matter much anymore, so I'm starting to forget what that feels like.
  5. TNF GDT: Green Bay Packers at Seattle Seahawks

    Come on you fell into Rammy’s bait trap hook line & sinker. Be better.
  6. Broncos VS Texans GDT

    While we wait for the next GDT...the hits just keep on coming. Garcia wasn't great, he sucked...but now we'll have Wilkinson at one G, and Turner at another...and should a T go down, then one of them moves to T, and Sam Jones moves in, or Gino Gradkowski moves to C and McGovern moves back to G. If Bosa is back this week, even for limited snaps, well, this could get really ugly.
  7. Could Patricia/Wilks be one and done coaches?

    Normally I’d agree 100 percent here. The issue is that if Leftwich isn’t the future at OC then the need to get a guy to develop the QB / O scheme it might require a HC level hire to get an attractive candidate. If Leftwich isn’t the answer then at the very least a new OC is needed. Whatever scheme the new OC (or HC) chooses really changes what type of OL they draft. Rosen, DJ, Kirk & RSJ probably fit best in a quick strike spread attack system but the OL choices ideally fit the system the new guy chooses. So this might be one of those rare times where changing direction completely makes more sense. The other part about Wilks is that he’s implemented a zone based coverage scheme that’s completely neutered Patrick Peterson’s abilities. A coach who can’t adapt the system to help the best players succeed isn’t a coach that’s likely to succeed. I have no problem with the notion he should normally get more time but the scheme - PP mismatch signals a bigger problem than just a year 1 adjustment phase. That’s the kind of inflexibility that killed Rex Ryan in forcing his 3-4 D to a BUF D that killed it under Jim Schwartz’s Wide 9 - and turned a top 5 D unit into a bottom 10 unit right away. I believe in the rule to give coaches 2-3 years (3 if a team is really bad). The need to commit to a new O scheme and invest long term and Wilks’ inability to adjust scheme to his best players might make this the justifiable exception.
  8. Broncos VS Texans GDT

    So @champ11, @thebestever6, @iLikeDefense @broncofan48, @jolly red giant and I are out - anyone else, feel free to start the GDT - doesn't have to be a big thing, frankly, we know the issues....sadly, given our draft is our best hope to contend, we're hoping to get 7 more guys starting this year (although 5-6 seems more likely) @AKRNA's already unavailable (on Random Thoughts), so anyone else - @jsthomp2007, @BroncoBruin @germ-x @lomaxgrUK @PFM18, @AnAngryAmerican @broncos_fan _from _uk @BroncosFan2010, @BaldyBronco @BullsandBroncos @OrangeNBlue86 @Royal_VT - or anyone I've missed who's been lurking - doesn't have to be a big thing, let's get it started!
  9. TNF GDT: Green Bay Packers at Seattle Seahawks

    @AlexGreen#20 - can't quote your reply...but in reply, I agree McCarthy's ability to develop QB's shouldn't be undervalued, FWIW. A team like Arizona would do well to consider bringing him in to tutor Rosen (but hopefully just be the tutor/OC, but pay him close to HC $). Just as you said, his coaching abilities are very meh. He's also made some really awful personnel decisions of late (like timesharing Aaron Jones even in just running situations - I get pass pro was the big concern early on last year, but to time share him for actual running downs....man). ARod's play hasn't been his usual elite self, that's entirely fair. Just that McCarthy's always been a huge minus in the game management side - which doesn't matter as much in the regular season, but can cost games (like it did last night). Where it really hurts is come playoff time when closely matched teams face off - the coaching decisions often have a massive impact, and that's where his very average to below-average skills handicap Green Bay.
  10. Could Patricia/Wilks be one and done coaches?

    The only coach who could get fired after year 1 is Wilks - it really hinges on what kind of OC he can bring in to help make the O NFL-caliber. Mike McCoy's hire was an absolute joke. If Byron Leftwich can show some growth in 2018, and he (or whoever replaces him in 2019) can do a decent job, then Wilks has hope (and to be fair, GM Keim needs to spend 2 of the first 3, if not all 3 picks, on upgrading OL, and getting a FA upgrade for the 3rd spot). Given Rosen is their future, they need to figure out who's going to guide the O scheme's direction long-term. That could lead to a HC ouster. Otherwise, teams pretty much give 2 years minimum to let HC's find their way - HC candidates start avoiding teams that make a practice of that. If it was purely a 1-and-done as a normal way of doing things, well, honestly, DEN would have probably parted ways with Vance Joseph last year, but the thinking is if you make the hire, you give them at least 2 (on a supposedly decent team, which we're not, but the FO said we were - um nope) or 3 years (on a bad team).
  11. TNF GDT: Green Bay Packers at Seattle Seahawks

    Actually, it doesn't, the clock is live once the ref blows the whistle. So the Pack would have known exactly when Wilson was snapping the ball. To call TO was a massive mistake. It helped SEA 10x more than it did GB. Nothing came of it, but the fact McCarthy wasn't aware of this, well it speaks to his lack of coaching savvy. The 4th and 2 is a no-brainer, because with only 1 TO left, they basically were saying GB were left with only 1 chance to stop SEA on O - with 3 TO's, they'd have 2-3 chances to stop SEA, so it would have been more defendable. But again, that's McCarthy not understanding how the dynamics of game management change. Honestly, while it's easy to point to the 2014 NFCG (and rightfully so) on how McCarthy has cost the Pack at least 1 real shot at another ring for ARod, it's stuff like this week that happens week in and week out with McCarthy. He's one of the most overrated coaches (along with Jason Garrett), who gets by on ARod's talent (and Garrett on the overall roster talent that was there). ARod's not blameless here, but the thinking that McCarthy is a big part of the problem is spot-on. The only good news is that the FO is finally seeing it....may it be a merciful end after 2018 is done.
  12. Nick Bosa vs Ed Oliver

    Man Ed Oliver’s draft stock taking a huge hit this month. The HOU scheme doesn’t let him produce huge #’s but this incident tonight is going to raise Q’s: The context - team rules say only players who are playing can wear those jackets. Oliver wasn’t playing tonight. Apparently the trainer was telling Oliver to take off the jacket but no reaction - which led to the coach’s actions above. Now it wasn’t necessarily the most smooth way to handle it - but Oliver going after the coach as they left the field isn’t a good look either . I still believe Oliver is going to display huge talent at the Combine (generational #’s not out of question) and his pre-2018 tape is going to be really impressive. But the whispers about motor and now this, well he was hotly debated as the 1.1 pick vs. Bosa - now a fall out of the top 10 could happen given how there are such great talents at DL still available. I also wouldn’t be surprised if we see Oliver shut it down to get ready for the Combine. Which wouldn’t quell the whispers but seems very possible.
  13. Random Thoughts

    Man Ed Oliver’s draft stock taking a huge hit this month. The HOU scheme doesn’t let him produce huge #’s but this incident tonight is going to raise Q’s: The context - team rules say only players who are playing can wear those jackets. Oliver wasn’t playing tonight. Apparently the trainer was telling Oliver to take off the jacket but no reaction - which led to the coach’s actions above. Now it wasn’t necessarily the most smooth way to handle it - but Oliver going after the coach as they left the field isn’t a good look either . Oliver is going to display huge talent at the Combine (generational #’s not out of question) and his pre-2018 tape is going to be really impressive. But the whispers about motor and now this, well he was hotly debated as the 1.1 pick vs. Bosa - now a fall out of the top 10 could happen. Wow.
  14. TNF GDT: Green Bay Packers at Seattle Seahawks

    Pack fans have to be nervous if the O doesn’t score. They’ve been dominating and yet only up 4. That missed 3rd down read by ESB and 3 key penalties (DPI, KO iffy hold call and that ESB block in back) are only reasons it’s not a 14+ pt lead. Now SEA gets another chance. Wow.
  15. How many wins will it take for the Chargers...

    Meh it’s not like the plays are that much of a secret. Going pass on 1st down isn’t giving away a lot of info teams can glean future game plans off. It’s not like there are 5+ Philly special type plays waiting to be unleashed.
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