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  1. LaFleur's Lieutenants - Coordinator/Staff Thread

    I was not sure he was going to meld well with Fangio.....was just a hunch that I had those two might not really work well together. Looks like they can look for someone else in Denver.
  2. packers selcet mAtt leFleUr as head coah

    Not breaking tackles is a valid argument against Graham, he certainly appears he is not going to break ankles out there any more either. The lack of YAC is a valid argument against Graham for next year.
  3. packers selcet mAtt leFleUr as head coah

    I am not down on Graham because I think he needs a walker, I am down on Graham in this offense because he is not going to garner respect in the run game for this offense. I think Graham certainly offers more to this team on the roster then cut based on his contract next year. There are ways we can envision where LeFleur can use Graham, it is just not as ideal given the action a lot of the more base plays come off the run threat. When you see Graham on the field, you defend pass and really do not need to respect anything he is going to attempt to do blocking for a runner other then getting in the way.
  4. packers selcet mAtt leFleUr as head coah

    I am not even trying to address whether a player wants to come here - I said that is the right fit with the right contract. In no way am I stating it has to be Coleman or speculating what kind of contract he is going to get, because really I could care not about Coleman unless he is a Packer. I am saying that mold - for the most certain eventuality of missed snaps by Jones given his history and how much of just a true plodder/grinder type Williams has shown to be- having that third horse with the Coleman traits is a good idea. Replace Coleman with Edgar Bennet if it makes you feel good- the name is rarely the point of my thread unless I specifically mention someone already blessed in Titletown colors. Sorry if that is the way you digested that point because the name was not the focus, it was the mold/fit that I am trying to steer the discussion towards.
  5. 2019 Draft Discussion

    I think the interior pressure is not so much the problem in the passing game as it is in the run game. The leaky penetration by the interior is what is making this offense very pass dependent. If you can make sure you are facing 2nd and 6 consistently the passing game options become easier and stress more levels of the opposing defense. Being able to successfully threaten third and 3 with a running game would also be a nice change instead of having a RB back there for blocking or window dressing in those circumstances.
  6. packers selcet mAtt leFleUr as head coah

    Agreed, I looked at Shanahan much more than what he had with TN because that offense is a work in progress with a limited throwing attack. I still cannot get past the glaring need for an upgrade on the oline and TE to make this a run game that is respected enough to draw defenses into a 1 high look. The improvement of the oline and TE inline will make Jones special with 15 touches and Williams a viable grinder.
  7. packers selcet mAtt leFleUr as head coah

    I mentioned this in another thread, Tonyan has the most to gain this offseason and even moreso now in this offense. Going to be interesting how he looks in the next camp on the LOS. I really do not know what they have in Baylis right now. I loved the Lewis and Kendricks fit- when they could run. I think those two are simply not worth moving forward anymore IMO. I do not think just releasing Graham is a good idea either- he has more value on this team then off it considering the contract in hand- but it sure is not in the base running plays unless you get something from him he hasn't shown his entire career. Maybe he applies himself diligently to stay relevant in the league now that he cannot run as well as he used to. I think you start with Graham and Tonyan and given the depth of this year's draft at TE, you do as Ray mentioned and seriously think about doubling up this year at this position.
  8. packers selcet mAtt leFleUr as head coah

    Based on what I have seen of the offenses that LeFleur wants to run, we really need to make investments in the oline and TE positions to make this work. Maybe even RB since we have seen that Jones does have durability issues. Even if Williams looks better behind an improved oline, I think a third horse is needed there as well. I saw one of the mocks in here with Coleman in it, that is not a bad looking fit with the right contract. At the WR positions, you just wonder if J-mon Moore is ever going to be able to digest the playbook. I think this offense may end up being easier for him to execute on the field because he is not reading as many things post snap as the previous system. If you can get that player to explode the way he did in college you have a very dangerous group of young WRs for this fit IMO.
  9. Packerraymond's 1st 2019 Mock Offseason

    I feel the same on Wilkerson. He would hold a lot of value with that contract in hand next year as a rotational piece. I understand why everyone is a bit shy in Gary, but everyone knows that bigs that can move like him are rare and you take a shot at them high. It is a huge risk but the reward is rare and special with Gary. Having guys like Wilkerson, Daniels and Clark in the fold with him would truly be ideal IMO.
  10. LaFleur's Lieutenants - Coordinator/Staff Thread

    I guess Silverstein mentioned that Monken would be a leading OC candidate if he does not receive a HC offer.
  11. LaFleur's Lieutenants - Coordinator/Staff Thread

    Anything on Pete ?
  12. Contract years, Cobb vs CMJ.

    I am not 100% convinced we have seen the last of CM3 in Titletown. If you can get him back at the right contract he can still be a productive player- he is just nothing like he was so you cannot pay him on reputation. You have a solid rotation piece there for OLB or MLB is you want. If the organization is going to go young and not add in free agency, CM3 would be your transition piece / mentor. I feel the same way about Bulaga. You bring in a young RT and slide over Bulaga to RG if you can and you have a nice set up. Not likely in either case, but those were my thoughts on those two. Cobb unfortunately is probably done in Green Bay. I really do not see a scenario where he comes back given what he might get on the market. It would be nice to get a seasoned veteran that can add production to the WR corps though. That group is young, talented but needs the right personality with them- which is why I am dead set against the thought of Antonio Brown in that group. Get those young guys a Fitzgerald to watch and learn from next year and I think the young WRs all benefit and develop into better players then they otherwise would.
  13. Tyler Lancaster

    Early down run plug that allows the interior big play pass rushers to be fresh on passing downs. Definitely value in that role. Definitely seems better on run downs then Lowry at this time. Lowry is pretty inconsistent in that regard.
  14. 2019 Draft Discussion

    That is the exact role I think Zach Allen from BC can play in this defense actually. Between him and Perry (when healthy lol) I think you would have two solid players for that role. If you were able to get someone in that mold and someone in the mold of a speed/bend rusher on passing downs I think you have the pass rush fixed. NOW, that is assuming Pettine is back next year. Be interesting to see what direction this whole thing goes in before I want to get ahead of myself as to who is really needed.
  15. Leisher's 2019 mock draft 12-27-18

    I sure hope you are right about that Ray, he was looking to really break through based on what I saw in Camp last summer. He just had a feel for moving with the ball in his hands and truly grasped a lot of route running techniques that had me excited for him this year. Then the horrible injury. I was told by Bill Scott that it was a bigger injury and required major surgery, so I am hopeful it will not impact his ability to contort his body, cut and accelerate moving forward because those attributes had me excited going into this year. Still not sold that we need to add a high pedigree WR unless one is head and shoulders above anyone else on the board. The current group is young, talented, and needs to progress. That is not necessarily going to happen as quickly as we want. Davante is a stud, but I am not sure any of them are ready to be that solid #2 coming into next year- that might be a year away. I think one of those 4 from this year (ESB, MVS, Jmon and Kumerow) is going to turn into a big time player and I truly believe between the other 3 and Allison you will find a solid #2 in the future. 2 of those 5 is going to wash out. Going to be interesting to see how it all settles the next couple years.