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  1. 2020 Needs and Free Agent List

    This. Tretter was better then Linsley. Just could not stay on the field early in his career and Linsley did.
  2. 2019 NFL Draft Day 2 Thread (NO SPOILERS!)

    I agree on the surface with this statement. I disagree with the idea that the Pack will not take an oline player. I think they take at least 1. I believe they will take players that have the ability to play multiple positions on the oline as well like their FA pick up and Madison. I think they covet that flexibility which is why they did not trade up for Dillard who was regarded by many as a LT only. The Pack already has a LT in his prime so it did not make sense to me to get a LT only prospect. I could see Risner or Dieter or several others that are options for the Pack that can flex to several positions.
  3. 2019 NFL Draft Day 2 Thread (NO SPOILERS!)

    I do not think Smith is special - which is why he was not a first round pick. What Smith is, IMO, is a tough, gritty player that has shown he knows how to run routes and has NFL bloodlines. That is why I think he might be a strong consideration for the Pack at 44 unless someone they have rated much higher is surprisingly still available for them.
  4. 1[12]: Rashan Gary [EDGE; Michigan]

    I am a bit surprised Gary was still here at this pick- when I did my Packer board I did not think he was going to be available and I did not think the Pack would like the medical. The medical is a total guess on my part. Gary has some special gifts- no doubt. Definitely a swing for the fences kind of pick IMO- the Pack needs a special player or two on that side of the ball so you need to take some risks on prospects sometimes to get that difference maker. Whether you like the pick or not, you have to concede these points. Hopefully the selection works out great!
  5. 2019 NFL Draft Day 2 Thread (NO SPOILERS!)

    I think the pick is going to be Irv Smith if he is there or a DB they are surprised is still on the board. I believe they will look to trade down and get a 4th back eventually.
  6. 1[21]: Darnell Savage [S; Maryland]

    I think people need to cool their jets a bit when they knee jerk and say they moved up too high or gave up too much to get a prospect. In this case, the prevailing thought was Pick 27 was going to be a S. Green Bay felt compelled to get ahead of pick 27 to get the S they wanted before Pick 27 potentially took the guy they wanted. The next step is to find a trade partner that holds a pick before 27. They found a team willing to deal at an affordable cost to leap frog Pick 27 to get their guy. It does you no good to say well just get to pick 26 and pick there - if the teams that hold the picks in front of 27 are not wiling to deal or make reasonable demands in a trade up, you are stuck at 30 and probably not getting the guy you want. That is the reality of how the draft room works and leads to the outside appearance of "over drafting" or "reach" knee jerk reactions when the reality is it was not at all - it is simply the cost of doing business to get the guy the draft room covets.
  7. 2019 Day 1 Draft Thread (NO SPOILERS!)

    I figured you did, but I had to enjoy the moment.
  8. 2019 Day 1 Draft Thread (NO SPOILERS!)

    J Allen please slide to the Pack...…...
  9. 2019 Packer Draft Contest

    Pick 1: A. M Sweat B. J Simmons C. C Wilkins D. B Burns E. D Bush Pick 2: A. D Savage B. J Tillery c. N Fant d. AJ Brown e. P Risner Pick 3: a. Irv Smith b. J Thornhill c. C MCGrary d. J Abraham e. N Adderley Pick 4: a. J Sternberger b. T Howard c T Hill d W Harris e. M Crosby Pick 5: a S Bunting b. G Gaines c. M Sharping d D Long e J Oliver Pick 6: a K Warring b K Hollman c C McGovern d F Moreau e J Hill Pick 7 a P Hart b U Gilbert c J Brailford d K Elliss e B Rypien Pick 8 a D Thompkins b C Bolton c H Renfrow d L Denis e T Pollard Pick 9 a J Ariebonam b J Smith (WR) c A Mack d R Armstead e G Minshew Pick 10 a EJ Speed b J Lovett c A Beck d N Brossette e T Fulgham
  10. 2019 Draft Discussion

    I am expecting a very heavy offensive draft after pick 12 this year. I just do not think there is an offensive player I would take at 12 over what might be available on the D side of the ball or what they would get in trade value for a trade back in 12.
  11. 2019 Draft Discussion

    I have a feeling if Wilkins is available at 12, Gutey might take him at 12. He is not Simmons good, but he is healthy and a very good prospect at a premium position.
  12. 2019 Draft Discussion

    My personal dream scenario: 12. Josh Allen shockingly falls and becomes a Packer as Gutey trips all over himself hustling the pick up himself. 30. Tillery 44. Thornhill After that, go heavy offense getting 2 mid round TEs and take S Will Harris later. A player I bet we are overlooking that the Pack wants is Irv Smith. Tough minded TE that runs good routes and comes from NFL bloodlines. I think the Pack might take him at 44 if he is there whether we like it or not.
  13. 2019 Draft Discussion

    A lot of truth to this, I think Tillery is high on their board too. I really do not care who did and did not have Clark and King high on their Packer board thought. I think that argument that is taking place on this forum between two posters primarily is pretty stupid. No one cares who looks more right on the internet. If you think others do, you put way too much perceived importance into your opinion. No one is more or less confident in a draft pick because of an opinion your are expressing in this forum.
  14. 2019 Draft Discussion

    I do not subscribe to generalizations like this at all. It is a terrible argument that is made when they are searching for something negative to say and it is an extremely lazy argument. It is like saying every Tedford QB is going to be mediocre at best NFL QB. I judge each prospect on their own merit and NOT where they went to school.
  15. 2019 Draft Discussion

    That is the big question. Let's remember, if it was not for his injury he and Q. Williams are in a battle for best DT taken. That is how good Simmons is when he is healthy. And I think Q. Williams is the best football player available in the draft this year. Pick 12 and no production in year 1 is a hard pill to swallow. But if you get top 5 pick production at a premium position for the next four years on a rookie contract, that does not seem like quite the conundrum we should be upset about.