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  1. I don't think this is completely fair. More often than not, he is immediately scrambling or back peddling after his initial drop back. He has NO time to look off a safety or go through his progression. That being said, Eli looked bad physically last night and his accuracy was horrible. He has always had those issues but it just is more often these days. I do think it's time to move on at this point. I don't think he's completely done but he past the point of being able to make the team better. He can't carry the team anymore
  2. Week 1: Jacksonville Jaguars @ New York Giants

    Encouraging signs in this loss but unfortunately, this also has the look of a team that's going to lose a different way each week. Some offenses are going to move the ball all over this defense. When the D plays well, the OL is going to play like it did Sunday. When those two things are going well, Eli will have one of his head scratching games. But damn, it was fun watching OBJ and Saquon do their thing out there.. the pieces are there but we're too thin this year. Here's hoping Eli can truly play at a high enough level to let us fill this roster out over the next season or two. #onemorerun
  3. QB Davis Webb CUT

    16 months ago Davis Webb was a 3rd round pick to an 11-5 football team, which happens to be one of the most stable franchises in the NFL, and a 36 year old starting QB. Basically the perfect situation to be drafted into as a mid-round QB. Fast forward to today and he is signing onto a practice squad with a team he has zero chance being the long-term starter for. Crazy world.
  4. Week 1: Jacksonville Jaguars @ New York Giants

    I'm suuuper excited for this season. Not due to any expectations either, just so many different things to see. An entirely new defense, Saquon, the return of OBJ. Jacksonville's defense is fantastic, we know this. But their offense has to show me they can move the ball before I give up hope in this game. Of course, I'm most excited for that first catch in space for Saquon!
  5. QB Davis Webb CUT

    There was a report earlier in camp about his personality and how he gets too amped. It's hard to say whether that would be enough to drop the guy with seemingly nothing to lose but who knows... Either way, it doesn't affect us this year. If Eli goes down, we're screwed no matter what.
  6. LOL It would be nice to see the oline play a bit better. We have so many weapons but it could be ruined by the oline
  7. Training Camp Thread

    What's up guys? Long time, no talk. This board has been dormant for far too long and we're approaching Christmas (Week 1) so it's time to get excited! So far, I've seen some positive reports on Davis Webb. He's apparently throwing the ball really well so I'm excited to see him get some time in the preseason. All reports also very good on OBJ, which is awesome. Shep grew a lot as a player last year. Having OBJ, Shep, Engram and Barkley all together is going to be a lot of fun. New year, same inconsistency with Flowers and the other tackles. Very scary stuff there. Biggest position battle? Has to be FS. Everything seems set on offense for better or worse. Starting CB spots have been solidified due to lack of options (fingers crossed that Eli Apple has turned things around) and the defensive front 7 seems pretty straight forward. There are a lot of depth battles but having a starting spot this wide open has to win by default. I still have my hopes that DT figures it out this year but I have confidence in Adams if DT can't be the guy.
  8. Would love to see Robert Martin make the team but it's not going to happen.
  9. RB Saquon Barkley selected by Giants 1.2

    I don't understand why people think this would happen. They think Eli Manning still has a lot left and that they can win with him. If they are wrong, they'll be picking near the top of the draft again anyway. They are going to see what they have in Davis Webb and won't even think about another QB until they have an answer there. Everyone thinks Hernandez is the guy. They are guaranteed either him or Landry and I would be happy with either.
  10. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    Now rumors of a trade down, which I do not believe. The only benefit would be to stockpile future picks for an eventual trade-up to grab a QBOTF. Other than that, you have to grab your top guy at #2 IMO.
  11. Giants to pick #2 in 2018 NFL Draft

    Well, we are a little over 8 hours away and all signs are pointing to Baker Mayfield being the #1 overall pick. Hard to believe but if it happens, good for him. Dude has a ton of passion and has done nothing but perform well during his time at Oklahoma. Question becomes, are the Giants crazy enough to pass on the "safest" QB prospect in Sam Darnold to take Saquon Barkley? I hope so! Truly though, the Giants have seemingly stumbled into the perfect scenario. Their top QB prospect and top overall prospect are both sitting there for them. Whichever philosophy they choose to operate under, they are getting their guy. This draft starts to get really fun if the Browns take Mayfield, the Giants take Barkley and all of a sudden not only do the Jets get their choice of the consensus top 3 QB prospects, but the Browns phone is ringing off the hook for #4. Have to love draft season!
  12. Predict The Pick v.2 - 2 - Giants

    Following my heart with this one and voting for Barkley. He would just be so beloved by Giants fans. The idea of him, OBJ and Evan Engram creating match-up nightmares is too much to pass up for me.
  13. Bell + 1st for Beckham?

    Agreed, I probably wouldn't do it if I were the Browns. And yes, your point on Barkley is 100% why I wouldn't take Bell either.
  14. Bell + 1st for Beckham?

    I'd rather have Barkley than Bell at this point. Bell has far less tread on his tires these days and Barkley would be far less "expensive" not having to give up OBJ. I hate playing in these ridiculous hypotheticals for the most part but since this story won't go away, I was thinking about it and I would actually consider the following: CLE receives: Odell Beckham Jr. NYG receive: 2018 1st Round Pick (No. 4) 2018 4rd Round Pick 2019 1st Round Pick It's a lot for Cleveland to give up and you could easily call them crazy if they did this but at some point they have to cash in the picks they are accumulating and hit on talent. This would set Cleveland up to still take the QB of their choosing at #1 and have OBJ and Landry for him to throw to and sets us up to take a QB at #2 and Barkley at #4. If the Jets change their plan and go Barkley at #3, we still take Chubb or Nelson #4. This obviously sets us up with a big void at WR1 but if you look at Shurmur's MIN offense, they turned two later rounds / undrafted guys into big time receivers. We would still have Shepard, Engram and Barkley in this situation as well as our QB of the future. Those are still pretty good weapons and all of them under control for a few more years at least.
  15. S Mike Thomas, Dolphins, signs with Giants

    Seems like a good little pick-up. They are clearly looking for leadership / high quality personalities. Thomas reportedly has that and some good experience.