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  1. First, a better QB always helps. The QB is the most important player on offense. Under Spielman's watch the team has invested tremendous resources to the QB position -- three first round picks and an unheard of fully guaranteed contract for a free agent. It is easy to argue that Spielman, for whatever reason, has gotten far below average value from the resources he has invested into the QB position. The second most important players on offense are the offensive lineman. As you astutely pointed out, like the QB position, it isn't an issue of the resources he has invested. On top of the picks he has tried trading low round picks for players such as Sirles and Easton, he has tried signing free agents like Boone, and he has looked at practice squads around the league to find players like Rashod Hill. It isn't that he isn't investing resources so much as he isn't getting reasonable value out of the investments he makes. What matters a lot more than the resources invested in a position is the actual results achieved. Rick Spielman's results have been mind-blowingly poor with the offensive lines he has built. He has also turned out solid results when looking at other positions. There is a continual argument about whether Spielman isn't bringing in the right players or the right coaches to develop those players. The bottom line is that it looks like Rick Spielman is not going to be able to get it done with regards to the offensive line. Sure, a better QB would help but Rick Spielman has tried at least as hard to find that guy as he has at upgrading the line itself. The results speak for themselves, year after year. After year. There comes a time where fans have to ask themselves at what point they believe the current power structure on the team has had enough time. At what point will fans stop investing emotional energy into seeing the same problem kill great roster after great roster. There comes a time when an owner has to ask himself how much longer he wants to keep investing all those resources into a setup that has failed for the same reason over and over again with little sign pointing towards them having the ability to fix the problem. I don't know when that time will come for you, or when it will come for Zygi, but the time has come for me. I will continue to root for the team and hope for the best but I can't bother myself to invest the emotional energy into it that I am able to invest when I believe. It will be a large mountain to climb for the team to get me believing until a systemic change is made in the organizations leadership, which appears quite inept in an area of vital significance, fielding an offensive line that can achieve reasonable results.
  2. 2020 Draft Talk

    I don't know if there is a magic number. Arm length is a lot more important for OTs in the zone blocking scheme. There are guys with 32 inch arms that have done just fine. For any tackle I was going to draft high into the system I would be looking for 34 inches. Admittedly, that is only based off of hearing from others that 34 inches is normal for OTs in ZBS. There is not a lot of reason to believe what I have heard is any better than what you have heard as the "magic" number. 33 5/8 isn't bad at all. To me it just isn't ideal.
  3. New Playoff Structure

    This is a problem that they have wrestled with in college ball for years. They know that record alone isn't a sound indicator of which teams are the best. Other factors, such as strength of schedule, need to be considered. Since there is no way to know for sure which two teams are the best my understanding is that they decided a few years ago to expand their playoffs. At the level I pay attention to college ball, the FCS, they are up to a 24 team playoff now. It moved up from 16 teams to 20 and then to 24 fairly quickly. They frequently allow teams into teh 24 team field that have a worse record than other teams that are left off. The level of competition is a bit more even in the NFL but the same problem still exists to a lesser degree. I do not agree with the remiss that record alone can be used as a sound indicator of how good a team is. I do not believe for a second that the Packers were the second best team in the NFL this year. That said, I have no problem with the playoff seeding being determined by record alone. It has is flaws but so will anything else.
  4. 2020 Draft Talk

    If the team is sticking with zone blocking as their primary scheme I would prefer tackles with somewhat longer arms. That is not to say Jones couldn't get the job done. It is just that I wouldn't call him ideal.
  5. I know but I try to stay optimistic anyway.
  6. When he gets fired in two years the Vikings can consider bringing him back. I could see it happening if Spileman's replacement is someone else from within the organization.
  7. Something brewing with Diggs?

    I agree 100%. WRs are almost worthless without a decent OL. The same is not true in reverse. Other than QB, the offensive linemen are the most important offensive players. Diggs is great but as Vikings have seen time and time again it is still relatively easy for a defense to take away a star WR when the QB doesn't get time.
  8. Moving On To 2020/2021.

    With all the talk of the team being up against the cap we ought to be keeping our eye on the new labor deal. Reports at PFT make it sound like the new labor deal could be done before the start of the league year. If that happens, it will be interesting to learn what that does for the salary cap for 2020. We ought to keep in mind that we have never known what the salary cap would be for 2020; everything is based on projections. Those projections could be wildly wrong if the percentage of revenue allocated to players changes or if the definition of shared revenue is widened. I believe any talk related to the salary cap problems now ought to come with the disclaimer that it is based off of current 2020 salary cap projections which have a higher than normal likelihood of being significantly off the mark. The projections are usually pretty close when there are not changes to the CBA or TV contracts. It is looking like the CBA may be renegotiated this year and we know that the TV deals are soon up and will be renegotiated too. In the next couple years we may see a couple spikes in the salary cap that is not currently being projected. Or if the CBA is not renegotiated there is the fact that the last league year of the current CBA will be an uncapped year. This is something that can effect the Vikings in 2020 plenty. It allows us to consider that it may be possible to keep Harris, Alexander, Waynes, Sendejo, and most everyone else not named Kearse -- who seems to just want to leave irregardless of cap availability. Perhaps Cook for $8M per year will look like a great deal in a year under the newly negotiated CBA and TV contracts. It is something to keep in mind.
  9. Valhalla Villager: News, Rumors and Gossip

    This is true. Admittedly, I was stretching to come up with a reason to extend him since there wasn't much of that viewpoint in here. Like I said in the post though, I am against it. Just trying to look for reasons the team would do it. Assuming an extension with Cook gives him much guaranteed money it would be hard to lower his 2020 cap number much, but it could be lowered a few hundred thousand dollars with some extreme accounting. So yeah, when I said it likely lowers his cap number, the word "likely" for sure wasn't the right word. More accurate would have been to say there is a mathematical possibility that an extension could lower his cap number for 2020.
  10. Valhalla Villager: News, Rumors and Gossip

    Extending Cook likely lowers his 2020 cap number. It could make sense to lock Cook up for a few years if the team is projecting significant cap increases starting in 2021 and Cook agrees to a moderate contract that keeps most of the money towards the back end where it would hopefully be a smaller percentage of the cap. That is the best argument I can make in favor of extending Cook. Like others, I am against spending big on a RB. That is doubly true if the Vikings are sticking with the Kubiak offense.
  11. The 2018 Kirk Cousins Megathread

    I have no idea why he would. He probably wouldn't. That is fine. I hope nothing in my message made you believe that I thought he would. I believe I was not clear enough with the message though. I'll try to add clarity... The team will find out whether they can come to terms with Cousins by deciding what they are willing to pay him and making him an offer. If Cousins will accept that offer they can build around him. If not, the team will know they need to move on. That is true no matter the value they are willing to pay Kirk Cousins. Whether the Vikings are only willing to pay Kirk Cousins league minimum, or willing to pay him 50% of their salary cap, they ought to find out whether there is enough common ground to forge ahead with Kirk Cousins. I hope that we can agree that the amount the Vikings would be willing to offer him is within that range. Where in that range it falls does not matter at all with regards to finding out whether there is that common ground. Obviously, the more the Vikings are willing to offer the greater the chances will be of common ground. Now aside from that point and to answer your question, personally, I do not think that Cousins is going to accept any offer that wouldn't blow my mind. I think he wants to get to free agency after the next round of TV contracts are wrapped up. I do not see that as a fault of his. If that is his choice, I applaud him for making it. On the other hand, if he is willing to extend his deal with the Vikings on terms that the Vikings are willing to offer that is also his choice and that is great for him too. Kirk Cousins has earned the ability to choose. For that to happen, there is going to need to be some good faith negotiations. I do not think that the Vikings should start looking forward to a future without Kirk Cousins until exploring whether they may have a future with Kirk Cousins but from the team's point of view they should find that out before the draft this year. If the Vikings are only willing to pay Kirk Cousins $40M per year but Kirk wants to hit free agency for a chance to rake in a $45M per year payday I would hope that nobody would fault the Vikings for building for a future without Kirk Cousins. If Kirk can earn that $45M per year somewhere else I would hope that nobody would fault Cousins for going and doing that. Please understand that these numbers are somewhat arbitrary and I haven't expressed how much I would be willing to offer Kirk Cousins if I was running the Vikings. That simply does not matter for the message that I am trying to convey. Feel free to substitute in to this paragraph any numbers that you are comfortable with.
  12. The 2018 Kirk Cousins Megathread

    Could be. I was just using the numbers of the post to which I was replying. The exact number doesn't really matter as it relates to the message I was trying to convey. I hope that you didn't miss that while getting hung up on this detail. While I used the number from the message I was responding to, what is being said is that the team ought to determine how much they are willing to pay Cousins, make him an offer, and if he accepts that is great. If he does not, they ought to plan for a future without him. Whether their opening offer is $25M/year, $27M/year, or something else I am sure they know to make their opening offer somewhat lower than what they are willing to agree to. That is why I mentioned him coming back with a counter. Don't get hung up on the exact number. That is pretty irrelevant to that message.
  13. The 2018 Kirk Cousins Megathread

    That seems fair. Offer him a four year extension at $100 million and if he takes it or comes back with a reasonable counter offer then the team can build around him. If he doesn't, plan for a future without him.
  14. It is hard to say. The Vikings do not currently have the cap space to sign him. There will be some hard decisions on who to let go and who to sign back. There is a good chance the Vikings simply will not be able to afford Harris. Personally, I would love him back but I likely wouldn't offer him enough given the needs the team has other places and money they have available. He would likely turn down my offer and go earn the most money he can -- as he should.
  15. The 2018 Kirk Cousins Megathread

    I think you are probably right about that and I like your general plan. I simply would not constrain the plan to Cousins starting this year. There are possibilities that he is not. Like I said, I wouldn't be looking to trade Cousins until there is a new got brought in (not easy) and that new guy earns the starting job in OTAs (also not likely). Even after that, there would need to be another team at that point in the offseason willing to take on Cousins (this one is more likely as there are always teams that can use a Cousins level QB). So you are probably right but there are examples that make me think it is possible to find a QB in the draft that proves they are worth starting over the guy the team currently has. Look at Carson Wentz beating out Sam Bradford or Russell Wilson proving they should start him over the then recently signed for big money Matt Flynn. You are probably right but I am open to the possibility of good fortune.