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  1. On 1/21/2021 at 8:06 AM, eagles18 said:

    I think the first 4 years of his career he's proved he is the guy. Let's forget about 2017 for a moment. in 2019, he threw for 27 touchdowns and 7 interceptions and dealt with several injuries at skill positions. 4000 thousand yards to mostly practice squad level players. In fact, he's thrown no more than 7 picks in 2017, 2018, and 2019. 

    When i say scheme for this guy, i mean design and call plays that cater to his arm strength and mobility. Doug Pederson hardly ever called plays where it took Carson out of the pocket and all of us know he is better mobile passer than he is in the pocket. Even though he struggled this past year, he completed several 40+ throws to young players. John Hightower being the main one and he just stopped seeing field time as did Travis Fulgham, who was developing nice chemistry with Wentz.Not only did Pederson call wack passing plays, he never committed to the run when he has an emerging superstar in Miles Sanders. An effective run game would've been nice to have to counter the constant pressure Wentz faced because defenses knew our offensive line wasn't at full strength. 

    Carson didn’t prove anything his rookie year. 2017 was an anomaly (look at the teams rushing stats). We jumped on teams early and played well enough down the stretch. 

    2019 was a major step for him playing 16 games, 600 attempts with a bunch of guys. By far his best year IMO. 


    As far as Carson’s attributes I can’t agree that his deep ball accuracy is something to brag on. IMO his best attribute is a play off script. After that is probably PA from under center, which I believe is something that wasn’t utilized enough. 

  2. On 1/21/2021 at 3:09 PM, Scalamania said:

    We'll never know but my assumption is it was either Peters or Lane because I don't think Kelce would say anything and I don't think anyone else on the line has earned the right to throw that sort of suggestion around.

    Why can’t it be Kelce? I think he would speak up if its hurting the team. Lane and Peters were in/out the lineup. 

  3. 1 hour ago, ninjapirate said:

    probably lines up with the whole duce can't become head coach narrative because he would hold carson accountable. he was probably told he had to also baby carson and duce was like no thanks

    I could definitely seeing Duce not having authority to pull him and balking at that. Not too long ago we thought he was hampering certain RBs from getting snaps. 

    He would've been a figure head ala Bieniemy. 

  4. 24 minutes ago, eagles18 said:

    I wouldn't trade Wentz. He's too talented and you guys think QBs come from an apple tree. Get him a good coach that can scheme to his strengths and put talent around him and not make bogus calls. 

    I don't hate Carson and I agree QBs don't grow on trees. But 68 games you shouldn't have to question whether he's the guy. You question whether Doug P can scheme, well how do you know the next set of coaches can do any better? I will tell you there is a lot of overlap from coach to coach in terms of schemes and route combinations.  

    Honest question explain what do you mean scheme to his strengths? What are his strengths, what type of offense do you see him in? I think Carson showed his ceiling and so far hasn't been consistent enough to say otherwise. 68 games he's 28.


    Forget all the rumors and clickbait, just maybe the 2017 season was the outlier ?  

  5. 1 hour ago, Danger said:

    I don't think it was anything malicious on Doug's part (like maybe I've alluded to before) but perhaps ego or perhaps tepid on Doug to try things other than what got him to the top of the mountain. I really didn't get the sense of Doug was trying to let Carson do what worked for him in 2017 in subsequent seasons, it always felt like Carson was being told to be something he was not. I'm not trying to absolve Carson. What I'm saying is, if we have a coach that isn't willing to work with Carson and it's "My way or the high way", we may as well just trade Carson now.

    How so? 

  6. 1 hour ago, Danger said:

    I get that, but I do feel like Doug refused to work with Carson at all in a sense. To me, Doug sort of got set in his ways as soon as he won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles. He then didn't want to change the way he called his offense at that point. 

    Carson should adhere to what the coach asks of him, but it would mutually beneficial if they allowed Carson to help scheme and tried to utilize what he's good at, instead of trying to force him to be Nick Foles (or whoever else).

    Sorry but this is opinion. Yes Doug didn't run the ball as much as he should have but that's the way of the league. Aside from those scripted plays we don't know what was gameplanned by the coaching staff and brought in week to week. I believe we seen more instances this year of players not executing vs scheme not working. 

  7. 34 minutes ago, Kiltman said:

    Do it. I don’t think Doug leaving is going to magically make things fine. If Carson truly was the way those reports paint him to be his reclamation in Philly is a big uphill climb. Get him to redo his contract to leave and help our cap situation.

    A 2022 first potentially helps us get our next QB.

    What if the contract non negotiable? 

  8. I blame all 3 

    FO for not giving the coaching staff enough support to be tough on the kid

    Coaching staff for not challenging Wentz early on after Reich/DeFlip was no longer in the building

    Wentz for going in the direction of being a stubborn mule vs a coachable QB who wants to be great. What audacity from a kid that hasn’t won anything. 


    The FO has to do better establishing the relationship with Wentz, bringing in certain guys because they share the same agency is nuts. Get some status before trying to have that type of impact. Watson has proved that he can play at a high level for multiple years. Totally different set of circumstances.  




  9. Whichever HC the birds bring in there are chances he’ll lose assistants so he has to have a good sense of systems and putting together a staff. 

    Fixing Wentz is on Wentz he’s a professional football player, if he doesn’t change his approach to coaching or being coached up then yes he’s a lost cause. Coaches can only put him in position to succeed, up to him to work on his execution. Yes he might have lost confidence in those around him OL, WRs but that doesn’t mean stop doing your job. 


  10. 2 minutes ago, Scalamania said:

    I thought you were "looking into it" - stuffs not hard to find.

    He was banned from CU for a year for choking a female parking attendant. He has more then a few assault accusations against him - of both kinds. He pulled a Rick Pitino/Hugh Freeze when it came to recruits, he's got a very long list of issues.

    Like I said, most of this stuff doesn't bother me and I wouldn't be mad if we hired him, but there's plenty of reasons why he doesn't have a job yet. 

    Most of that is the college stuff still. 

    Wouldn't that be something we hire a RB coach/OC and not named Duce. 


    I think he/they have to go outside the AR tree. How you mad at Doug for hiring within but you still stuck on AR? 

  11. 1 hour ago, ninjapirate said:

    Interesting that we are  talking to the defensive coaches when it seems like part of the reason Doug was fired was because he wanted to move forward with Jalen and not Carson.

    Interesting indeed, perhaps they wanted to know who would run the offense for those defensive minded coaches. 

    Again I don't mind a simplistic offense for Carson, if Stefanski can make Mayfield a playoff QB with PA, boot, 1/2 the field throws with limited weapons on the outside then that could be the formula for getting Carson turned around.

    Pull tight on the leash until he can master the basics. 

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