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  1. This sucks. I was a big fan of his pre-draft. Injuries completely derailed a high potential career.


    37 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

    Do share

    When asked what he would change about himself, he wanted to be "bigger." Thats the PG version for here of course.

  2. 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said:

    Sorry man just can't get behind a draft with Mond as the headline act...would rather build around Dalton for a year then next season with more capital try and find the franchise guy.

    I'm far from sold on Mond too, but having a young backup with a 5th year option fighting against a high pick in 2022 sounds a lot better to me than paying Foles and Dalton their money for mediocre results. 

    At that spot Mond would const around $2.5 mil on average so we'd have a lot of capital to surround the two young guys. I'll take the gamble.

  3. 11 hours ago, soulman said:

    Some may see a lot of Watson in Fields or Lance.  I don't or at least not without a need to either develop him over time (Lance) or build an offense around him (Fields) whereas others like Mills who wouldn't require a trade up to the top five seems like a better fit now.

    My issue is that Mills will fit this offense better but unless we're spending a 3rd or lower that is a wasted pick to me. I dont expect the Bears to do well this season and Nagy is cannon fodder. He may fit the offense better this year but this is a sorry excuse of a system to fit. He doesnt wow with any traits, and has mediocre athleticism. I want a QB to have at least one trait to really hang their hat on and Mills seems like hes just ok at a number of things but great at nothing. He lacks experience, any great tools, and has an injury history iirc (his film didn't do much for me so I'm admittedly light on knowledge of him). 

    Just seems like the discount Trubisky. Took away athleticism and added injury concerns. I'll take a swing with him but not early.

    I'm fully on the on boom or bust train for QBs, hence the willingness to go after Lance or Fields. I'd rather have a failure and reset with a high pick than stay willing 7 or 8 games. I hate this purgatory we've been stuck in. Only way we will get out of it is by getting a franchise guy. 


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  4. 18 hours ago, soulman said:

    I understand but then wouldn't we once again be spending a top 5 draft pick on a QB for yet another HC?  We just sent the last guy we did that with off packing for Buffalo.  HC like to pick their own QB and if we keep doing what we did with Mitch we also keep frustrating that methodology and risk another bad match between a QB and his HC.

    Personally I'm not looking past Nagy and Pace.  I know GMcC does not like turnover in the front off or the coaching staff.  It's both costly and it's even more embarrassing to him than losing and these two have made the playoff two out of the last three years so no matter how mediocre they've been he can still hang his hat on that vs say Fox.

    If GMcC has truly blessed a massive trade up to #4 then he's either agreed to give the "Collaborators" more time to make it all work or they have a trade scenario for Wilson in the works.  Pete Carroll refuses to trade Wilson without a starting QB in exchange so here's your QB.  A rookie #4 overall pick and we take Wilson and his contract away.

    That gives Schneider a rookie QB on a far cheaper 4 year deal and all kinds of cap space to add talent around him on both offense and defense he's not been able to do because of Wilson's deal.  We get a vet QB whose a proven winner and can compete for a SB before the defense ages any more and we lose that advantage.  It could work.

    As for Nagy and his offense I see more stubbornness than ego.  If he was that egocentric he wouldn't surround himself with the kind of talent he's hired to coach with him.  Same with play calling.  I think he simply believes his schemes will work and all he needs is the right QB behind center running his show his way.  Mitch wasn't that guy.

    Even if we draft a rookie to keep we're at least another year away from him being ready to take over and all of those restructured deals that kicked the cap can down the road keep mounting.  I believe GMcC want at least a SB appearance for Ginny before she dies and she's now 98.  How much longer does she have?  Wilson is win now mode.

    Just thinkin' out loud brother.

    I agree. I'm just torn atm because I want the Bears to get a franchise QB and this is the class with the talent to have a few options potentially, but understand it is highly unlikely since Nagy and Pace should be in a win now mode.

    It's like Tru's class. I was huge on them and not impressed with Darnold and Rosen's class at all. Same situation here. I'd rather have fired Nagy and let a coach pick his guy this year but now we're stuck with the caffeinated version of Fox patrolling the sidelines for another year. He's going to roll with a vet and hope to squeak into the playoffs again, then hope that gets him an extension and another swing at QB. 

    If we get Wilson (I'd be ecstatic) I'll still want someone else. Nagy can't elevate players, hes just another Reid puppet and nothing more. 

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  5. 9 hours ago, soulman said:

    Wouldn't that be the antithesis of what Nagy wants to run?

    Sounds like going back to trying to make another square peg fit a round hole and potentially ending up with a sow's ear for a QB again for the price of a really costly silk purse.

    Sorry brother but I don't see a fit at all.

    True, but I'm looking past Nagy, which we should already be doing imo. Backing into the playoffs was just bad luck. Lower draft stock just to be embarrassed and to be the bottom of the barrel in a group of real teams. 

    Maybe I'm overly pessimistic of Nagy, but I feel his ego makes him think he was never the problem for our offense. So he may think he is the one who makes Fields into a franchise QB. 


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  6. 15 minutes ago, WindyCity said:

    He is 10x the passer that Lamar is. 

    Fields can run this offense, the fact he runs a 4.4 at 230lbs is just a bonus.

    Definitely, I'm saying he isn't a pro-ready passer. Arm talent is there, but he's going to have a steep learning curve to run a complicated NFL offense.


    Play to his strengths and develop him over time. Don't throw him into the water like Nagy did Tru in early 2018. He'll be drowning just like Tru was.

  7. 2 hours ago, Epyon said:

    This is what concerns me with regard to his processing.

    With his speed (athletic, not processing) you immediately run thr BAL offense and try to develop him as a passer as you go. 2 man reads, levels concepts, RPOs, etc. 

    I actually like Fields more than I expected to after seeing Lamar's success. You'll never get that precision passer like with Wilson but there's a lot of talent there. 

    I'd like to pair him with Daboll. 

  8. 1 hour ago, soulman said:

    Seems to me we've been through trends of the "running QB" before but when the dust settled it was the guys who could pick you apart from the pocket who ended up winning the biggest prizes.


    Agree. The mobility is a huge asset and can be a crutch while the QB is developed. Changing launch points is hell for DBs in man. But if the QBs passing cant be developed you're looking at an exciting player with average potential at best. Precision passers are what are killing it. Some like Wilson, Mahomes, Rodgers have varying levels of mobility that compliment their passing. But any of them can kill it from the pocket alone. 


    The issue is, can we develop a QB with this staff? I wont hold my breath on that.

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  9. 1 minute ago, LinebackerGod said:

    That’s a very optimistic approach on him. He’s going to be absolutely terrible. Worse than Trubisky, IMO. I don’t really like the Bears roster at all. I think they’ve got a chance to rebuild now before all of their pieces become “bleh” in the trade market. 

    Again, I want Nagy gone, so this isn't a bad thing to me. lol

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  10. On 4/1/2021 at 7:06 PM, jrry32 said:

    Putting aside the Texans, the Bears haven't had a good off-season to this point.

    It has been bad, but if it leads to the final nail in the coffin for Nagy I support it.


    On 4/2/2021 at 9:41 AM, Dalan162 said:

    The Bears paying Andy Dalton decent money when they have a playoff team is mindboggling. 

    Obviously, they tried to make a move for Russell. Bu there are better options out there. Especially Sam Darnold. Make a big swing at Garoppolo. Hell, make the Stafford trade a 3-way trade and try to get Goff. 

    I really don’t see what they’re doing. 

    Meh. We backed into the playoffs because there were teams that blew it worse than us, not because we were legitimate enough to warrant being there. Hence the 2nd embarrassing performance in 3 years there. Goff would crumble behind our OL, Darnold would at least have ARob. Garappolo is a more expensive disappointment, etc.


    Dalton is underwhelming, but at least we didn't grossly overpay for mediocrity. Thats the silver lining at least.


  11. 2 hours ago, JAF-N72EX said:

    Pace has usually strayed away from players with character issues.

    He has also completely stayed away from winning in the playoffs and competent QB play. lol

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  12. 1 hour ago, JAF-N72EX said:

    Weren't you one of the people who wanted him to be our GM this year?

    If you don't like his opinion on a QB, while he's still a neutral, then why would you want him to be our GM?


    Remember I want Rick Smith to be the head of the franchise, a real President/ CEO who is a football guy. He'd have been the one pulling the trigger. Riddick would be his assistant and I think he brings a good bit to the table at othwe positions. While idk exactly how direct Riddick's influence was there was a lot of talent acquired by WAS and PHI (primarily PHI) while he was there. Plus I like Campbell way more than Nagy and trust him to get the QB to develop. 

    Between the two I imagine we'd have pretty good drafts and direction in FA. I trust Smith's eye for a QB more than Riddick's. 

    Just because I thought Foles sucked didnt mean everyone had to. I wish I was wrong on that one and Riddick was right. That being said he likely overestimated our HC and roster like most did too. I've disagreed with Bill as a HC and a host of other decisions by the top guys. Doesnt mean they aren't still killing it usually. I'd bet if he was the GM he'd have scouted a lot more thoroughly than he did with the Foles to Chicago deal, and no way do I believe he'd put his career in Foles' hands. I'm still going to mock him for it. Lol

    Overall my favorite staff I put together was the Smith/Caserio/Daboll/D'Alessandris/Mayo one from a last season. I REALLY like that group. Caserio scouted, did contracts and worked FA but Bill was the one who ultimately made every pick, and that's his weakness imo. I think Caserio will do better drafting than people think, the Esterby (sp?) and Watson situation already had people down on him. 

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    I finally had to do one.

    Planned on a Jones/Trask competition, didn't work out. Got the prototypical pocket passer and hopefully he learns whatever he can from Dalton and Foles.

    Toney is Percy Harvin lite. Great athlete, explosive, will get YAC.

    Liam is Leno's replacement. No more flopping like a fish at DE's feet.

    Brady is going to eventually be the RT. May be the swing this year but he will take over soon enough.

    Williams is going to be battling for the 2 spot at CB. We need more talent there.

    AO is going to be Mack's shadow. Powerful kid who needs to learn technique and how to take advantage of day one physical gifts

    Doyle has LT traits and needs coached up. Will be in the RT battle with Brady and the loser goes to be the swing OT.

    Snowden can play inside or outside IMO. Can learn to be the thumper like Kwiat was next to Smith or can be the utility OLB like Floyd.

    Landon is an interior guy. He is a bulldozer who eventually gets to bully people in the middle. May even try center to get the best 5 guys on the field.

    Slaton is a tank, pray he ends up like Hicks and keeps getting stronger, but likely is the guy who rotates with Goldman and in heavy fronts.

    Powell popped last year. Outside of ARob we have little to rely on at WR. Toney is a massive talent but Miller is a talented headcase. After that we're very meh. Powell challenges for WR 4 early on.

    Kmet was a better blocker than I expected, if he is to stay in that role we need a move end. Reyes is a crazy athlete who can develop, maybe be a redzone threat early on. Together they at least provide a hellish duo to be able to match up against.

    Duffy - this is for me and you @beardown3231 😘



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  14. On 4/1/2021 at 1:05 PM, beardown3231 said:


    What makes that worse is that Tayo played zero snaps at OT and Simmons likely has to kick inside if he ever gets on the field.


    I'm not counting pre-season either.

  15. 54 minutes ago, beardown3231 said:

    Louis Riddick, blah. He LOVED the Foles trade for the Bears last year, too. Whatever

    Maybe he is a fan of a Bears' rival? It would have been a good point then...

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  16. 10 hours ago, beardown3231 said:

    It should be expected. His seat is red hot. He isn't going to get fired because Bill Lazor called plays. The guy's ego is huge. Luckily for us, this only increases the odds of him getting canned



    A year late, but he can thank Fangio and Pagano for his winning record when he gets his next job. 

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  17. On 3/23/2021 at 7:18 PM, HuskieBear said:

    am i the only one that thought manti wasn't terrible against the saints? yeah, he wasn't great in coverage, but it was also his first game in well over a year

    I thought he filled in well. Being a draft bust will haunt him as much as the gf hoax though. 


    Not saying anything about people here specifically, but people still crack jokes about it when he comes up. 

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