ThatJerkDave

Only from the blind person's perspective. The invisible person still has to accommodate the blind person's disability, making it not a "normal" relationship. The blind person just can't tell the difference between visible and invisible people.

Not if he is effective.

I would probably go with this alignment: Fackrell Guaranteed sack, every play. Best defense ever!

Gary isn't going to have a great year because Fackrell is going to have 300 sacks and no other defender will have any stats at all.

Yeah, you have to be good at football first. I think a lot of European soccer teams have Olympic sprinters, but they are never any good. I just didn't know that we had Kaz.

So did George Brett

I didn't know that the Packers had Bill Kazmaier in camp until today. We had one of the strongest men of all time, and Lex Luger, and we still sucked in the 80s.

"Party on, Dudes!" -Abraham Lincoln I believe there is so much talk about the running game because that was a major criticism of the McCarthy offense, especially after Eddie Lacy's prime seasons. The coaching family LeFleur is from is known for the running game and there is nothing going on at the moment. But look at the personnel of the offense. We still have a top tier QB, WR, and bookend tackles. 3/4 of our TEs can't block my 88 year old grandma. None of our RBs have carried a full load in the NFL. Our remaining WRs are big, fast, or both. This isn't going to be a run-first team, and I doubt that the organization would make a hire like that. As for Gary, I saw the athletic numbers and lack of production and thought either lazy or workout warrior. After watching the game cut-ups, seeing his offseason workout videos, and listening to him speak, I have ruled out lazy. If he is just a workout warrior remains to be seen. I am cautiously optimistic. There hasn't been anything so far to indicate that he was a bad pick.

Jon Gruden.

I will repeat what I said in the NFC North thread in the General board. The Packers are relying on a lot of rookies, sophomores, and new additions to make a big impact on the defense. The offense will have new terminology and play calling tendencies. I imagine the team struggles as the season begins. By the end of the season, the Packers will be a team that nobody wants to play. Be patient, 2020 is our year. I am thinking somewhere between 6 and 9 wins.

These Bane clips make me think that Gary is going to take over Pittsburgh, throw a guy out of a plane, and break someone's back over his knee.

He went to Michigan...

Hawk was very good in the 4-3 defense that we had in his first years under Sanders (and Bates, I think?) and made a really good tandem with Nick Barnett. When we hired Capers and moved to the 3-4, Hawk gained muscle mass and was slower and stiffer, Barnett was good but he was going to lose if an OL got their hands on him. I think Hawk would have had a different career trajectory had he played for one of the Tampa-2 teams, or remained in a 4-3 base. When Capers was brought to Green Bay with his 3-4, I believe we were only competing with Dallas, Miami, New England, Pittsburgh, and San Diego for the 3-4 body type players. Arizona may have switched around the same time. Capers defense allowed Woodson, Collins, Matthews, and Jenkins to thrive, but lessened the impact of Aaron Kampman, AJ Hawk, and Brandon Chillar. Hawk was a good enough football player to still be productive with the change.