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  1. 3 hours ago, LLcheesehead12 said:

    I do wonder about moving on from Stokes though.  Guy hasn't stayed healthy lately and seems to get beat a lot when he is playing.

    I do get the feeling Gute is probably going to replace Campbell with his first round pick.  At least it would fit with his usual MO.

    Granted he's always good for a surprise or 2 like his 2018 1st round trade down and picking Love in 2020, so an OL pick out the gate might be one he throws.  But just don't feel like he's going to do that.

    He saves like 1 million if we cut him (if I am reading that right).  Don't think we will be picking up the 5th year option though.  That would be 12.4 million.

  2. 2 hours ago, craig said:

    Didn't Love have only like one 300-yard game?  Maybe two?  

    Yards don't equal wins, they equal throwing the ball a lot of times.  If you want yards go look for Drew Brees or Stat Padford.

    But I know, I know... Aaron Rodgers bad. 😆

  3. Speaking as probably the only XFL viewer here, there were surprisingly few kick off return touchdowns.  Packer legend, Darrius Shepherd led the XFL in kick return yards.  The kick returns are more like screen passes with this set-up.  

     

     

  4. 4 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

    Everything is to scale.

    Take a new jet ski and run it on a smaller river, then attack a footbridge.  

    Side note....we have a place in Sturgeon Bay in Door County.  We see these large ships come through every late fall/early winter.  I want to say that there are two bridges kind of close together, like maybe they are a quarter mile away.  I've seen ships come through and they will have one part of the ship under one bridge while the other part is under the other bridge.  It is crazy how tight everything is and how skilled those ships and captains are.  

    Watching the fleet come into Sturgeon Bay is really a sight to see.  

    My facility is right on the canal in St Louis.  About a quarter mile from the confluence of the Missouri and Mississippi rivers, the Mississippi hits a section of bedrock and is like 3 feet deep.  There is a canal North of St Louis that bypasses this shallow portion of the river.  Every boat goes through our canal.  I don't believe we have any quite as big as the one in Baltimore, that looks like an ocean vessel.  But we do have quite a few very impressive barges going through.  

  5. 4 minutes ago, Leader said:

    Unfortunately, accidents happen. BWI is a major US port and east coast hub with hundreds of vessels safely going under the bridge to/from the sea. I believe they'll determine some mechanical issue on the vessel caused it to go off course.

    Correct.  I am just wondering how the bridge itself was compromised.  It could be as simple as it being built 80 years ago and the engineers not foreseeing ships so large.  It could have been already failing and this just pushed it over the edge.  Perhaps it was not built to earthquake withstanding specifications because it is on the East coast.  

    Like, I couldn't take my jet-ski and ram it into the support and take out the whole bridge.  But what about a garbage barge? Do they need to regulate how heavy a ship can be to go under certain bridges? They do that for trucks going over them.  

  6. 5 minutes ago, Refugee said:

    I like the variety of it on paper. I think in execution it’s going to take me a bit to appreciate how it is handled. I also expect the average fan to be blindsided by it preseason and week one and to complain for a while about the changes. There will be a chance that a missed tackle and a decent block could house one, so I hope to see that especially for the Pack. It’s going to be strange seeing guys lined up so close, though. 

    The XFL kickoff is great, once you get used to it.   

     

    Did they also implement the 4th and 15 in place of the onside kick?

  7. 5 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

    Seems like a perfect scenario for us namely because our coverage teams are awful and many times our lack of lane containment bites us big time.

    I think this setup is going to be fun to watch.  There is a ton of strategy on both sides for how to handle it.

    For example, I know this rule is there to reduce high impact collisions.  But....if a team puts two guys back for the kick, can one catch the ball while the other is behind him running full speed to get a hand off or lateral, so he can hit the line/hole faster?

    No.  Only the kicker and the return man can move before the ball hits the ground or is caught.  In your scenario the receiving team is more or less removing a blocker.  Your second deep man can't move to line up for the handoff before the kick is fielded.  They could set up a reverse like this, but you have a free running defender to account for.

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  8. My boss and I were talking about that.  The lost people are dead.  They fell 100 feet into like 40 degree water.  If the crash didn't kill them, the cold water dropped their core temperature too low to escape.  

    We deal with a lot of river traffic.  I wonder how big of a boat, going at what speed is needed to knock out a bridge like that.  There are at least 4 major bridges in St Louis beyond our canal.  Was this a design flaw, or was it impractical to think a bajillion ton barge is going to miss its window and hit a support?

  9. 1 minute ago, PossibleCabbage said:

    I guess the question is- how many snaps of "base" do you actually expect them to play?  Teams have been playing dime more often than base since 2020.  How high do you value those ~4-8 snaps of base defense a game in the draft?

    If they truly believe that McDuffie is a full-time starter at MLB, I wouldn't value it too highly.  Especially when that third LB is likely the first guy off the field in sub packages. 

  10. 1 hour ago, PossibleCabbage said:

    Is there some reason you wouldn't want to have Preston Smith as your SAM backer assuming you do have to play base for some reason?  Like I know he's not going to be on this team forever, but he might be better there than as an edge-setting DE.

    With the current roster, probably.  He is mostly going to be a DE.  He can probably play 5 or so LB snaps if needed.

  11. 3 hours ago, Scoremore said:

    Been doing some heavy duty scouting on LB's.  One intrigued me.  Bobby Boucher from South Central Lousiana Mud Dogs.  #9.  He's one hell of a player think we should take him at #25 if he drops. 

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/0/0c/The_waterboy_1998_926x1370_338331.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140311125749&path-prefix=protagonist

    Scouting report...

    https://medium.com/@dwily/sports-movie-scouting-report-bobby-boucher-d44a58300a84
     

    He's got Packer written all over him.  

     

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  12. 2 hours ago, Mazrimiv said:

    Can you believe Monty Adams is still in the league?  Just signed a modest deal with PIT.  Didn't pan out for GB at all, but heading into his 8th season in the league, it's hard to say he is a terrible player.

    The way he played in Green Bay, no I cannot.  But good for him making it work.  

  13. 7 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

    I would actually conclude that the Packers are worse in the 3rd round. 

    And I am still without a really satisfactory reason as to why this is.  We seem to do well in rounds 1 and 2.  And have found some real gems in 4 and 5.  

  14. OK, I am looking specifically at the other NFCN teams, and the Baltimore Ravens, because they are seen as "good" drafters, and have been mostly good for the last 10 years.  I will look at the 2010-2020 drafts, to not crown any one year wonders or rookie struggles from (most) first contract players.  I am counting players as out of the league if they didn't play in 2023.

    Packers:  10 picks.  Out of league: 6  Best pick:  Morgan Burnett (2010)  Worst pick:  Jace Sternberger (2019)

    Bears:  7 picks.  Out of league: 3  Best pick:  David Montgomery (2019)  Worst pick:  Brandon Hardin (2012)

    Lions:  11 picks.  Out of league: 6  Best pick:  Larry Warford (2013)  Worst pick:  Alex Carter (2015)

    Vikings:  7 picks.  Out of league: 4* Best pick: Danielle Hunter (2015)  Worst pick:  Scott Crichton (2014)

    Ravens:  18 picks.  Out of league: 9  Best pick:  Orlando Brown Jr (2018)  Worst pick:  Bronson Kafusi (2016)

     

    In this small sample size, it seems that everyone is batting about .500, as far as players still in the league.  Most of the older drafts don't have a lot of players still in the league 14 years later.  And the Ravens did have 4 third round picks in 2020.  All of the teams have some complete whiffs.  I do think that the Lions and Vikings do very well with third rounders, while the Packers do lag behind on total career AV of their third round picks compared to the division and the Ravens. 

    I would actually conclude that the Packers are worse in the 3rd round.  When we get guys like Richard Rodgers, who is fine, the Lions and Vikings have found some real impact players.  Now, what they don't do as well as the Packers is retain these very good players.  Larry Warford was a 3 time Pro-Bowler for the Saints, David Montgomery now plays for the Lions.  Every Vikings 3rd rounder that has a AV over 15, is still in the league, and playing for a different team.  

     

    *I have no idea if Pat Elflein is in the league or not.  

  15. 3 minutes ago, minnypackerfan said:

    Just asking:  Has anybody looked how our third round picks have stacked up compared to other teams third round picks over the past ten years in terms of outcome? Maybe we are not as bad as we think we are. 

    Specifically, I don't think so.  I'll thumb through a couple to see.  But it will all be subjective.  Some people might think Richard Rodgers sucked, while I think he was average to good-enough.  We could look at PFR's wAV metric, but that isn't a perfect gauge, for example, Royce Newman is a 14 while TJ Slaton is a 10; which one would you rather have?  Plus you have to decide how much to weigh certain individual picks.  Are the Patriots really better at drafting 6th round talent, or did they get Tom Brady once?

  16. https://www.rockmnation.com/2024/3/22/24108940/how-did-the-missouri-tigers-perform-at-their-pro-day

    Seems Rakestraw really wasn't fully healthy at the combine.  He probably shouldn't have participated other than interviews and weigh-ins.  I still think he is too slight for the Packers' preferences, unless he is still available in the second.  But he is fast enough.

    Still like Robinson, just probably not for the Packers.

    And I was right, TO and DK were in attendance, I will get myself a cookie :D 

  17. 10 hours ago, Rosser80 said:

    try 10...

     

    I'm not arguing against the point so much as I am stating our futility in that round vs. the significant success we've had in the other.

    I tried to dig into that before.  Why exactly were we seemingly missing more in the third round than the fourth, when the very nature of the draft should usually have earlier picks being better, especially when averaged over a long enough time period.  I never was really satisfied with any result, for every pattern found, there was a big exception that kind of blows it up.  Some had lower RAS than our typical picks, but were good college players, but Oren Burks blows both of those criteria out by himself.  I think Khyri Thronton was projected to be good, but was hurt, a lot.  It could be that around pick 80 or so, you get less of a bottleneck of players.  So while the difference between pick 1 and pick 20 is pretty great, the difference between pick 80 and pick 140 isn't that drastic.  The Packers just happened to select the wrong ones.  For example, 2014 third rounder, Richard Rodgers was pick 98, while 2013 fourth rounder, David Bakhtiari was pick 109.  That is only 11 picks difference, but quite the difference in ROI.

     

    It may also be that we haven't historically been that bad at drafting 3rd rounders anyway.  We just had a string of:  Monty Adams, Oren Burks, Jace Sternberger, Josiah Deguara, Amari Rodgers, and Sean Rhyan's disastrous rookie season in consecutive seasons.  Previous (rather recent) third round contributors were Morgan Burnett, James Jones, Richard Rodgers, Kyler Fackrell.  Not a list of dominant players for sure, but decent enough returns.  

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  18. 38 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

    This dude has been hiding from the police for over two weeks. Innocent until proven guilty, but this is very odd. Have to wonder if anybody knows where he is and if he's OK. 

    Lions release Cameron Sutton amid police search for CB - ESPN

    Maybe I watch too many weird crime stories, but... what if the DV is a cover for we were killing him and he fought back, we disposed of the evidence and then reported a battery and him fleeing?

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