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  1. ScoDucks823

    2022 QB's

    who knows if he'll declare, but Graham Mertz needs to be mentioned here. Looks to have good size, really natural throwing the ball from different arm slots and is leading a pretty prolific air attack at wisconsin of all places. Obviously a RS Fr and 2 games in, but what we've seen so far is very impressive, going back to his Army All-American game performance. As with any young guy, needs to show consistency over this year and next, but if he continues to play to this level I expect him to declare next year and be well within the 1st round conversation.
  2. I think one of the things that was constantly overlooked with him was how poor his OC was in college. As a Duck fan, I could not have been happier when Arroyo was signed by UNLV. I think he really was held back in his development by the way Arroyo wanted to run the offense. He was never going to be a horizontal/ quick game kind of guy but thats how we always tried to run our offense throughout his 4 years. He's now in a system that suits his style and has the playmakers to pull it off... Now, that being said, he's exceeded any reasonable expectations that people could have had, because he definitely did struggle with decision-making and consistency in college. Another thing that curiously was never talked about was that he was a 3 sport athlete in high school, and didn't focus exclusively on football until he got to college. So he was a lot more raw than the other guys and this is first time having quality coaches truly dedicated to his development
  3. ScoDucks823

    2022 QB's

    Analysts seem to love Slovis for some of the same reasons you mentioned. He looks comfortable in the pocket only to get to his 4th read and throw a checkdown. He does have very good fundamentals, but as a prospect that makes him a backup when that's his big selling point. You have to consider physical limitations, and Slovis is a thin framed kid with very limited mobility and arm strength in a league that values those things more and more. He's more of a Fromm kind of guy imo. very good college QB who isn't going to lose you games and probably hangs around the league as a backup, but ends up as more of a round 3-6 prospect than a first rounder. On Shough, no doubt he's raw and needs to show more, but the physical traits jump out.
  4. ScoDucks823

    2022 QB's

    Homer pick here and he absolutely needs some significant development (wouldn't shock me if he's more of a 2023 QB), but Tyler Shough is a kid to keep an eye on going forward. Big kid (6'5 probably 215-220 right now as a RsSoph) that can really move around and has thrown some beautiful deep balls in his 2 games as a starter. Oregon's offensive playcalling looks light years better under Moorhead and he is going to have a really talented group of playmakers over the next few seasons. Physically has what you look for from an athleticism and arm strength perspective, just needs to continue to progress when it comes to reading underneath coverage and ball placement. Have not been impressed by Slovis honestly. Not that air raid QBs can't be successful - we've seen that narrative debunked on numerous occasions lately - but he really strikes me as a kid with minimal physical talent. doesn't get great zip on his intermediate throws, and isn't impressive at all athletically. To me, he's Josh Rosen with a weaker arm and throwing to better players.
  5. really well said. it's too bad that you continue to see mismanaged injury situations like this. I understand that coaching windows (and front office) tend to be short, so they are always pushing for immediate results, but it seems like long-term planning has gone out the window in most organizations. Knew Marcus pretty well when I was at UO and he really is an awesome dude - super humble and never acted the BMOC, just wanted to be one of the guys. How he handled last year in Tennessee didn't surprise me at all, and I think it really showcase his character. Hard not to root for a guy like that. Carr seems to be a bit of a bible thumper at times (which I'm not a fan of, but to each their own) from what I've read, but also seems like a genuinely good teammate too
  6. could see both Carr and Mariota pulling a Tannehill in their second stops (Mariota taking over this year and Carr next year with another team). both have shown promise at one point or another but injuries rocked their confidence a bit and they became overly conservative. Change of scenery seems like the best thing for each to be able to shed the bust label (if you consider Carr a bust, being a 2nd rounder he's pretty much delivered on expectations)
  7. lol, I'm a huge duck fan (class of 2015) and I don't even believe this. Herbert is crazy talented, but has a lot to improve on (biggest issue is consistency, which he lacks in a few areas). I do have faith in him because his OC was garbage and his receivers average at best, plus he's not one of those kids that's been working with private coaches for years, so I think he has a lot of room for development now that he's fully committed to football and has quality coaching. I don't think Wentz is a bad comparison for his ceiling (Wentz is very good when healthy), but to say it's his floor is silly IMO
  8. they still prevent SOME droplets from going out into the air, that makes a difference even if it's not as significant as a cloth mask. It also comes down to optics - at least wearing something shows that you took a second to think about someone other than yourself
  9. It absolutely doesn't. the arguments against wearing a mask are frankly ridiculous. People should live by one rule: don't be an a** hole, and that is exactly what wearing a mask represents. Is it a perfect prevention system? No, but it shows that you at least took 3 seconds to think about your fellow man. It honestly baffles me that this is even an issue - they don't affect your breathing significantly (surgeons wear masks for hours on end and you don't see them passing out due to oxygen deprivation), and not wearing one is just broadcasting to the world that you are selfish. While everyone has the right to do what they want when it comes to their own personal health, not wearing a mask is taking that freedom away from other people. This whole not wearing a mask frenzy is just yet another example of how american exceptionalism is a ridiculous pipe dream
  10. I found Johnson to be very inconsistent catching the ball last year, regardless of whether he put up the best numbers. overall our receivers were pretty poor last year and I think they really factored into some of Herbert's struggles. that being said, Pittman and Williams are super talented and Johnson showed some flashes last year despite the drops/ incorrect routes. Redd is a decent gadget guy but nothing special and Addison definitely could progress. Moorhead will make a big difference because last year's passing concepts were terrible
  11. agree on everything here, well said. there's potential all over the place (I'm less bullish on the receivers but maybe Devin Williams can provide a spark, I like Pittman but not much else at this point, Johnson is ok), but it definitely is just that: potential. Don't forget Flowe on the linebacker side. Also wouldn't shock me to see Sewell end up on the D line down the road, he's just so big for a linebacker Shough looked good in garbage time and i think the system will be better under Moorhead.
  12. Love the list, agree with most of it. Gonna throw my homer card out there and say Oregon could be in contention for a top 5-7 D line this year. Thibs and Scott are already studs and some young guys improving would not be surprising at all with how well the defense has been coached the last year or so (along with great recruiting). Linebackers are really young but VERY talented. more likely they make this sort of list next year for that group though
  13. I went to De La Salle about 10 years back when Chip was at UO (and also ended up at UO but not to play football, given that I wasn't good enough to make my high school team at 5'0 110lbs) The head coach (Ladoucer) essentially told players not to sign with Chip. A few of my friends who were being recruited by PAC-12 schools at the time told me that Lad said to just hang up the phone if Oregon calls. Basically, chip was an a** hole who blatantly favored players and made most of the team's lives miserable. Clearly he was/ is a fantastic offensive mind but it's no surprise that he has struggled in recruiting and generally with player relations. That combined with his stubbornness is going to be his downfall
  14. Absolutely, they were some of the better prospects ever (that was at least the narrative with Lawrence and Fields was always right there with him, or even above I think, on most sites). However, the traits that Burrow excels in (anticipation, feel in the pocket, accuracy, improvisation) aren't usually the types of traits that get guys a lot of hype in the recruiting world. Usually it's the big armed guys, players from big time programs that put up big numbers (Matt Barkley) or crazy athletes. Burrow's best traits are the ones that are usually shared among the top NFL quarterbacks. Don't want to say that recruiting ranking isn't correlated to draft stock because it is, moreso that there are elite guys that are missed on for whatever reason. At the end of the day you have to look at the traits (not just physical, especially at QB) that they have going into the draft. Both Lawrence and Fields have the advantage in longevity of production and physical traits, but Burrow has them beat in the traits that I personally find more important for quarterbacks. All 3 are great prospects who could go #1 overall in many drafts
  15. Totally see your point but it's not like Burrow was some nobody recruit. He was rated as a 4 star on at least some platforms. As for being 3rd on the depth chart, I believe he had an injury in either spring or fall camp that contributed to Haskins getting the 2nd string job, then haskins played really well in mop up duty for Barrett. Even then, the OSU staff said it was a neck and neck competition leading into a season where haskins played his way into the first round. Burrow's senior year may have been his one great year of production, but his Junior year LSU was still running their archaic system that made all their previous QBs (some very highly recruited) look like trash. He then went into a more NFL style system and thrived not only within the structure of the offense but when things broke down. He showed so much of the nuance that is needed for success at the NFL level with his pocket movement, touch, ball placement and (as much as I'm not a fan of using this as a trait for a prospect) moxy. 1 year wonders are definitely a risk but his senior year just looked so convincing game in and game out. Fields is obviously super talented and I really like him but Burrow was just so much more advanced. Could that be due to age and experience? No question. Fields may have a higher ceiling but i would disagree on the point of him being a "safer" bet just because he was highly recruited. Same goes for Lawrence (who I would rank similarly to Burrow but Burrow is more my style of QB)
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