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  1. GWT: Week 20 Vikings @ Eagles

    Its a regular season award. When do they vote on the awards? When week 17 ended I think McVay had it all wrapped up.
  2. I think Houdini will be able to escape the notion that he is a system QB quite well actually
  3. Ryan vogelsong comes to mind. He was a pitcher for the San Francisco Giants. Drafted in the 5th round in 1998 (5th round is pretty high in baseball there's 40 rounds) spent a few years in the minors then in 2001 started the year 0-5 with a 6.75 era and was traded to the pirates. He then got hurt a few weeks later, had Tommy John surgery and was out until 2003. In 2004 he pitched the whole year and went 6-13 with a 6.50 era. Then he was moved to the bullpen in 2005 and had an era of 4.5. Then he went to Japan, played for 2 different teams between 2007 and 2009. 2010 he's on the Phillies AAA team and has an era in the mid 4s again. Goes to the angels AAA team and again has an era in the mid 4s. Then in 2011 he signs with the giants to fill in for injury, pitches against the pirates (who the giants traded him to 10 years earlier) and he strikes out 8 guys and gives up 4 hits. Ends up making the all Star team that year and goes 13-7 with a 2.71 era. 2012 he leads the NL in era before the all Star break and finishes 14-9 with a 3.3 era. Then in the playoffs the giants are down 0-2 in a 5 game series against the reds, he pitches a gem, giants win, end up taking the series. Next series we are facing elimination again in game 6, vogelsong pitches a gem we win then we go on to win the world series. He went 3-0 in four games with 24 innings pitched and a 1.00 era in the post season. The giants don't win their first world series in San Francisco without him. TLDR: drafted by giants in 1998, fell out of the league, went to Japan, bounced around the MLB, landed back with the giants, dominates in the playoffs and wins a world series in 2012
  4. GWT: Week 20 Vikings @ Eagles

    Easy there big guy. Peterson is deserving, no doubt, but to say that anyone who votes for another extremely qualified candidate is a buffoon is an over reaction. McVay had an incredible year as a coach as well. You could argue that Schwartz is almost as important to the eagles as Peterson because that defense has been playing lights out
  5. The difference is that the MLB doesn't test for pot or other recreational drugs.
  6. GWT: Week 20 Jaguars @ Patriots

    People forget there is a reason bortles was a top 5 pick. The guy has talent, it's just taken some time to put it together. Some guys progress faster than others. He has cleaned up his release; from what I can tell he got rid of that weird hitch in his backswing. It's made the ball come out of his hands more consistently and I think his confidence has skyrocketed. He wasn't trusting his eyes because he wasn't trusting himself to make the throw accurately. Now that has changed you are seeing why he was drafted so highly. Hes really been playing well since week 12 with the exception of those two games week 16 and 17. I remember Jim harbaugh saying that sometimes he didn't feel like he was actually playing football until he had been hit once early in the game. I think bortles is the type of guy that needs to settle into a game on the first few drives. If he turns the ball over early then it tends to snowball on him. If he has a couple positive plays early then he opens it up later. He's been doing a really good job of reading the field. That one play to yeldon on the swing route showed me that he can have that high level functioning needed to succeed in the NFL. I like that he was taking his shots down the field, it's something that will keep teams honest and will let them pound the rock inside. How healthy is fournette ? I hope the pats go and watch the 49ers film just so they can really feel bad about trading away garoppolo even more than they already do. A lot of it was Jimmy just beating telvin Smith to the spot with the football over the middle. How awesome would it be to see Brian hoyer finish this game out? Jags grind out the win 23-17.
  7. Around the NFL

    Someone mentioned this earlier but I think a straight up trade of armstead for lequon Treadwell would be a solid trade for both teams. Treadwell is clearly #4 on the depth chart and armstead doesn't have a position here because we have Buckner. Treadwell could develop into a #1 wr but he's stuck behind diggs and theilen I think he could use a change of scenery to a place with an elite QB. Vikes don't really need more dl help but armstead has talent and I still think he will be a nice player. He's still super young and I think hed be a really good fit up there. Being with Zimmer and some of the vets they have there would be great for him. Probably more upside in Treadwell than any 3rs or 4th rounder or whatever would provide
  8. 2018 Draft Thread I

    Sony has shown some good power too. I think when defenders don't expect you to initiate contact you can catch people off balance or in a backpedal. Everyone knows he has speed but I've seen him run through people as well. He's 5'11 215 lbs. He's certainly not a 'power back' per se but he's not a one trick pony. He seems to have a knack for getting the outside and is good at finding the cut back lanes. Sony and Breida would be a nice combination. Not too far off from Freeman and Coleman.
  9. 2018 Draft Thread I

    Sony Michel is my draft crush this year. I am officially starting the Sony Michel bandwagon. Guy is a hatputs. I said this earlier but he's an absolute perfect fit for the zbs and the outside stretch play. If we get him I think he will be a favorite for OROY.
  10. The league and the state of Alabama have antiquated marijuana policies. It's unfortunate this happened, hopefully he doesn't get suspended. This feels different than what happened to Aldon because Foster seems more committed to this team. It's the off-season, these guys deserve to blow off some steam. Obviously he should have known better and I'd like to hear some more details about why they searched him/how much he had etc etc but now he's going to be subjected to more frequent testing - so hopefully there are no more slip ups and this is just a speed bump not a roadblock
  11. Whats going on with Demaryius Thomas?

    He's lost a step. He's really really slow now and his routes have never been that crisp. He used to be dangerous after the catch because he was strong and was quick enough to make guys miss. Now he's a lot easier to cover and to tackle so they don't use him on all of those bubble screens (which honestly inflated his numbers). Maybe he isn't running hard because he doesn't feel like he can make an impact, I don't know, but you can tell when he runs, the guy is slower than some TEs
  12. Yeah, I know that guy travels a lot to exotic places so that makes a lot of sense.
  13. What are the chances that Fitz retires?
  14. Seahawks Fire OC Bevell

    The first two links you are posting are 'when not pressured' which is not 'inside the pocket' The last link is an article from after the 2015 season. Is this really the best you can do to show that Wilson is a good pocket passer? I know I didn't exactly make a case as to why he isnt a good pocket passer other than stating the issue that his height creates in seeing passing lanes, but its been known for a few years that the way you try to beat wilson is to keep him in the pocket. Your rushers cant get too far upfield. Ive seen film reviews where he has guys open but he cant see them because there are lineman in the way. TLDR you still havent proven anything
  15. Seahawks Fire OC Bevell

    Wilson is not great within the pocket. He's too short to see open guys and isn't as good at manipulating throwing lanes to make plays in the pocket. His stats in the pocket are pretty pedestrian. I'm too lazy to find them but maybe someone else will post them. The past on the first page of this thread with the fan crying will be freaking hilarious if they hire cable as their oc
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