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  1. No. That's like me buying a box of toothpicks on sale at the Dollar Store. And splitting it with someone.
  2. The precedent you would set alone by firing a competent or otherwise GM or any other FO employee because a player said you must is beyond detrimental to the team and franchise. It is idiotic. Tell the 38 year old whiner to set sail and enjoy his retirement.
  3. My opinion has been consistent. In this event we tell Rodg he can suit up or retire. Period. The only thing that changes that is IF we get a boatload of compensation via trade. He would only be traded on teams terms. Not only has Murph done nothing wrong you NEVER let any player dictate such things.
  4. The front office is likely doing what they should be doing at this point. They have offered all they're going to offer to sweeten the present deal. At least I hope so. From here you expect him to show up first day of training camp. In the meantime you prepare your team in the event he does not, until then Jordan Love is the man. I also believe and hope they have discussed compensation with suitors.
  5. The team would have multiple options if it came to that and should if not would employ them to maximum affect. Won't happen.
  6. I understand it's a move Rodg could make, I just don't believe he would do that for a number of reasons. If he did, the team would have options they would employ. He is one player, the team is far more important. The franchise paramount.
  7. I don't see him doing that. To give up millions and then come in and sit on the bench is not something he would do. I believe he either shows up day 1 of camp (after giving the FO a taste of their own medicine...hmpff!) or he retires at least for this year. That's why it's foolish in my mind for the team to not entertain a loaded trade so that move can be made if necessary before camp.
  8. Rodg has whined about culture and character but in the end it is and always has been about money. Guaranteed long term money. Now he may have not liked how the FO office told him no, but in the end it is about the money. The cash he can extract in a guaranteed fashion. He being a 38 year old QB at the start of such a guaranteed money extension is the main consideration here. In terms of a trade the team should do absolutely nothing to accommodate him, but I don't think they're doing due diligence if they don't know exactly what can be had in compensation. In other words, having very priv
  9. I know you think Rodg might do what you imply, but he won’t. His ego wouldn’t allow that and to his credit he would never do that to his mates or the fans. Of course if he did the simple solution would be for the team to let him swim in his own waste, but again, he won’t do that. If he comes in he will play his guts out.
  10. My position stands, I haven’t bitched about Ol Rodg anywhere. That’s where your confusion lies. I have simply pointed out the facts concerning his contract and my opinion on how it should be handled. Along with my hopes that the team does handle it in a similar matter. So there is no “making up”. If he is a Packer great, we like good players, I just hope we’re not buried in a no way out bad contract. You see, I’m a Packer fan. Long term. Not a fan of any one player. Team above player and franchise above team.
  11. There is no hate for ol Rodg and read back, I’ve not only said it’s likely he’s back but I’ve said it would be the best outcome. On the teams terms that is with a reasonable deal if not the present one. What he is doing is self defeating and pathetic, unless he truly is willing to retire. If that is the case he should come out and admit it. I have simply pointed out what I think the team should be and/or is doing. What we don’t know is the exact issue, and ol Rodg’s exact intentions. So, we go with what we have. The team can not fold here and take it up the dark alley with this 38 y
  12. There is no doubt we would get a Stafford return for Rodg or better, but that’s not really the point. The point is he’s not on the table and he never will be. Unless the price is right, and that price is a boatload.
  13. You always start high in negotiations of such, and I know I'm asking for a lot. That's because in the end he's not getting traded, unless I get a lot. The Stafford deal even with a little age differential is indeed a stepping stone example. Bottom line is the team does not want to trade him. To change their mind somebody is going to step up big time. AKA Chuckie Doll. Such a trade is indeed possible. Otherwise, this: packfanfb "1. Rodgers isn't going anywhere, except maybe his couch, this season. If he plays, it'll be making another run with us."
  14. I have stated many times what I consider value. I want 2 1's, 2 2's, and a player or two. If it's Denver I ask for Jeudy and Surtain, and maybe settle for Surtain and Browning along with the picks. The team should do him no favors trade wise, if we can't get a haul then no trade. Ever. He can suit up on reasonable terms or retire.
  15. I would never trade him at a reduced value. We're better off with him retiring, and that should be made clear to him. He plays on terms the team can live with (that means no long term guaranteed deal) or he retires and pays the team 8 digits. With the team option of trading him but only on the teams terms, which means our choice of team and return. That return can only be giant. Otherwise, play or stay retired and never play the game again.
  16. It's a mess in the media, the media loves messes! It's only a mess for the team if they allow it to become a mess. The attitude they have to have is that this is the Green Bay Packers. It wasn't the GB Favre's then and it's not the GB Arods now. Suit up on terms we both can live with or retire. The team will be just fine either way. THAT'S the attitude the team should have and keep. Of course, a trade on the teams terms bringing a real haul I believe should be considered at some point as well.
  17. Again, we do not know his intention or his commitment. I think the greatest possibility is he wants a new contract and the Packers are trying to accommodate. BUT for all we know he really is never going to play again for GB. A lot easier to do that than to ignore your family for years. That is a possibility 16-1 or not.
  18. In ol Rodg's twisted mind he may indeed see it as a win, holding the team hostage since April, if he strolls in first day of camp and gets to work. He may not any longer care to have long term security with the team, he'll play his guts out this year and then they can trade me to a team that will give him that security if they so wish may be his attitude. Or, it's 100% about trying to force a long term deal with the Pack that will bury us with looming dead cap and debt. The Packers above all must not let anything like that happen. If that's the case the team needs to tell him to suit u
  19. It would be best if he is back, but not so if the team is buried in guaranteed money long term with no way out. Nobody really knows exactly what the issues are, or ol Rodg's intentions. Maybe, just maybe, he intends to keep quiet and then 1st day of camp in July he shows up like nothing happened. Ready to go. Just his way in his twisted mind of showing the brass what players like Nelson and Cobb and himself etc etc feel like when slighted. He'd be wrong of course, nobody was slighted, but something along those lines might be how his mind works. Who r
  20. None of us know what exact issues Rodgers has or his intentions. I believe Rodgers really doesn't care about what's going on at mini-camp. It's mini-camp. He might miss his friends, his mates, but that's a socializing thing. Training camp is what looms. It is imperative that the team does nothing to lock us long term in guaranteed money with this 38 year old to be when he is already costing us approx 20% of team salary. We've got enough dead money to deal with as it is, we don't need it tripled down the road with an aging and declining QB. He's sure not going to give us the Br
  21. He has to play at an MVP level throughout the post season to begin to justify a salary percentile close to the present. He's about to be 38 years old, if you're going to give him an extension with guaranteed money that cornholes the team he had better be worth it throughout that very contract. Not just right now. On top of it all. Make him decide. Play, or retire. At the same time the team needs to at least explore the idea of trading him. They need to know what that option gives them and they wouldn't be doing the due diligence if they don't.
  22. Yes, show up and get to work. Ol Rodg won't retire, he really can't. He has no other choice. He owes the Packers 3 more seasons. He has no leverage at all. Now one bullet the Packers have of course is to trade him, but that's completely on the teams terms. I believe the team should indeed be looking into that, but again, that's up to the team and only the team.
  23. Nothing has changed, it’s still just a matter of his majesty Ol Rodg not wanting to honor his signature after the Packers two different times made him the highest paid QB in the NFL and have paid him mountains of money. They are willing to continue to pay him, mountains of money. He owes us 3 seasons in return. He wants to instead bury the team in a guaranteed money long term deal which will leave us with disaster laden future dead money. He is a 38 to be player who no doubt is beginning to decline and has led us to a 1-4 NFC Championship record going 1-7 in playoff games when behind at th
  24. The talking heads and their sheep worried about Love accuracy, one day into a minicamp. Rodgers had the same worrying about himself early on as well. Some things never change, fodder for the sheep.
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