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I saw the same thing. No counters. Pre-determined pass rushes. I did really like his stunt, he moves very, very well for someone that large. I was ready for him to show up big in pre-season based on what was written about him in camp, but that just hasn't materialized. Gonna take him a year or so to really get it, I think.

More is "a player". He's got a great knack for running routes and getting open. It's those hands and probably what is inside his head that is holding him back. I think the guy has nice potential. Just not sure if that is enough to crack our WR corp this year. Which would be too bad. It would be sad to give up on a 4'th round pick so quickly when we know that receivers take time to develop, but I don't know if you can live with those hands.

This can't be true. I'm catching up here and reading how these pre-season games are important for timing and to get the new offense down. I have a hard time believing that our head coach would just want to get out of Canada. -insert sarcasm-

Sorry about the "no one can help you" comment. I rephrase, if you can't understand how the NFL has changed over the past few years, then I don't know what to tell you. You see what happened to Cam Newton?

These three statements are just flat out wrong on many levels. They are meaningless. First team guys value reps in practice. No need to risk injury in a game that simply doesn't matter. First string guys do not fight for every single rep as they've earned the lion's share already. First team guys gel as a unit during practice and off the field. The pre-season is there to develop the end of your roster and give reps to young kids who need them....while insuring that your key players are not exposed to needless injury. Case in point...what if it was Rodgers that was lit up last night while scrambling by an overzealous safety with absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain? To me, you are digging your head in the sand on this instead of just admitting what we already know. The pre-season has changed significantly over the past few years. Practices and games were used to get guys into playing shape. Now? Guys come into camp in shape. It's a different game now. Whether we want it to be or not.

I"m watching his moves....and I would like for him to actually show up in a stat line someday. Other rookies are producing around the league. Given what we've heard of Gary in camp...and in the gym...and from what we've seen after he dropped some weight, I would think that some of it needs to translate to the field. To me, it is very odd that it hasn't. I'm going to give him a very long leash. As in 2 years. But, given the encouraging signs early? I expected more from him on the field than what we have gotten.

Anyone else getting a TopHatter ad? There is a WTF is that picture showing up, looks like a pump attached to what I hope is an arm. Odd.

So we've got a deranged killer. Owner who was caught on tape...uh...yah I'll leave it at that. And now a player indicted on cocaine charges. Just a long list of strange stuff from that organization. Sure they win, but this is getting odd. It just stacks up on itself. Deflategate. Tuck rule. What else am I missing? I"m sure there is more.

Rodgers has played how many years again? If you think 15-20 meaningless snaps in a meaningless game is going to make any difference to the product out on the field in week one well, then I fear that no one can help you. Forget what fans think they deserve to see. They deserve to see a pre-season football game. A ticket guarantees us and them absolutely nothing. Pre-season reps in games are not important. Reps in practice are. That is where most of the offense is being installed. You think MLF is giving anything away? I saw where a simple beat reporter was analyzing plays from last week and guestimating that he "saw" a glimpse of MLF's offense. If a simple beat writer can get than, an average scout would be all over it. I truly hope our head coach is smarter than that. Forget what you see in the pre-season when it comes to gameplans and schemes. The goal of the pre-season is to get young guys reps and see how they do in specific situations. And again, I go back to this....you really want to expose Rodgers to players who are playing to the edge and beyond to make a squad? Or...forget Rodgers, what if one of these guys rolls up an ankle on Bakh on a Rodgers scramble? No matter how you spin it, playing your top guys in meaningless games in August is a poor idea. If Rodgers plays, I hope he takes one snap, hands the ball off and just trots to the sideline...where he belongs in August.

Uh, Patrick Chung indicted on cocaine charges?

Look at the structure of the deal. Only $5M signing bonus. It becomes kind of a pay as you go deal. How about 3 years, $26M? That appears to be the "out". Guarantees for base salary end in 2020. As does the option bonus, which I believe gets paid out. And $500,000 base de-escalator for missing workouts. It is a very interesting contract.

Those are what I get, too. And here I thought Asiandate was exclusive to just me.... And yah, the 20's are waaay in my rearview window.

Okay. So here we have it. Rodgers needs to play!!! He needs the pre-season reps. Practice reps don't count!!! Then we have posts about how tackling needs to improve. Uh....who do you think the defense is trying to hit on every play? Do we want to risk Rodgers' health to a borderline guy on the other side going really hard to try to make the team? You can't have it both ways. And this is an easy one. Sit Rodgers. Sit your "locks" and stars. There is no need for them to line up across from guys who are trying to make a team and going all out in a meaningless game. That's what our fringe players are there to do as well.

Is he worth it? Yes. Will the Packers pay it? ...guessing yes. It's not like they are flush with options at the moment. If you look at the Smith deal, I think there is a large chunk of guarantees that kick in a year or so down the road. Signing bonus seemed pretty small. So, it all comes down to how it is structured. Personally, I'd take Martinez on that deal, because I think it becomes more or less a "pay as you go" contract that is easy to get out of...or re-negotiate when/if you have more cap space.

Kapri Bibbs, baby! Oh wait.....guess we let that fish go.