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Allen has the body that I adore in an edge. Long arms. I didn't see power to speed, or speed to power. I saw winning when hitting the edge fast. I didn't see a lot of hand fighting skills. Agree that it takes a year or two for those kinds of guys to turn it on. I think Ferrell gets "it" quicker in the NFL. Agree on the 8 sacks, thing. The one thing that stood out to me is that he is a fighter. Great hands, angry kind of motor. And when he hits a guy, his mother feels it.

If Brandon Graham is truly in that 8M/year category, then label me very interested. And JBURGE...you gotta keep it going...when discussing free agent EDGEs and Cwood...you gotta say it...FOOLS GOLD!

Power pig is EXACTLY how I would describe Ferrell. That is a great analogy. As far as Allen goes...again I've only watched highlights, but....does he look soft to you? I see a pure finesse kid. I don't see the mean streak. He has the ideal length. Very long arms. Nice base, good bend....and he shows a little bit of a strip move that seems to come naturally. I guess I see more potential in Ferrell because he plays with aggression. And that is something that can't really be taught and is something that the team is missing. If a tackle locks up with Ferrell, I think they will know that they were in a fight. If a tackle locks up with Allen, I think they know they will have won a squirmish. And keep in mind, I'm just going on highlights here, it is really tough to tell. And as much as I loved Landry last year, I don't think he's gotten to 4 sacks yet. Seems like power plays better earlier than speed/finesse. And I'm changing my tune as that as I've long wanted a quick twitch win now edge kid.

Moreso the third tier if that is where you put guys like Barrett and Ray. For every reason you've listed prior.

Thank you. And I agree. Landry had great bend and balance. Ferrell has the power and punch. Plays more aggressive, too. I thought Ferrell would fit if Pettine truly does like those EDGES to be more physical. If the scheme wants quickness and bend, though, then I look more at Allen and even Polite.

You've convinced me of that.

Spotrac has value out there for Graham. He's 31 years old. Average on his contract is 5 years, 79M. 15.8M/ season. I don't know if he is worth that coin. And...Dee Ford is a free agent. Not saying he is a fit...or will be worth it, but I think he's at least as good as Graham, maybe better...and younger. Trey Flowers (NE) is another one that will get paid a lot and be younger. Cwood summed it up best concerning EDGE and free agency. Fools gold. I think the goal is mine someone out there that may be better on this next deal than he's been in his career so far. Barrett. Clark. Fowler. Ray. Preston Smith. Z'Darius Smith. There's a lot out there. Just gotta see where the value lies.

I think that the O-line needs help. And I think that your point has merit. But...I don't see a Barkley type out there. And even if there were, I don't want to spend a first on a RB. As the NFL game evolves to more of a "fast break" style.....I think you accommodate this Aaron Rodgers with a better offensive line. Grab another RB somewhere and pair him with Jones. I see the line being more important than the back. At least right now.

I don't see a "lead dog" yet. Then again, I'm looking at height/weight. I see a couple of 215 pounders. Maybe that is fine for size, if paired with Jones. I"m starting to get on board with EDGE first, then looking at combos of OT/OG/RB with a few other higher picks. Of course, there is always the safety position that needs help too, but I hope that comes via free agency. Triplets seems to work. We have the WR. We have the QB. Add in a better running game and better o-line and that could do it. And...Graham is still a good tight end. I think new linemen and a running back (to help Jones) would help that offense more as opposed to a higher drafted WR.

I think you are pretty much spot on there, Outpost. I was more about "scheme" than "players". Now I'm starting to sing a different tune. And it will be interesting to see if the "young dreamy coach" can get his offense and QB going again. Quick question for you...and anyone else who wants to join in... Quickest way to turn around our offense....WR? Or RB to pair with Jones? As in a higher drafted stud. Not necessarily a round one RB, but one taken with one of our first 4 picks.... I ask because I think it is easier to assimilate a RB than a WR...with a draft pick.

I saw where Goff has really, really fell off of the cliff recently. Did the NFL catch up to the Rams offense?

Is Gase on the hot seat yet? I really like him..

I just want to jump in on this one. Here is why... When looking at Roquan last year, I thought that he was too similar to Josh Jones to warrant a high pick. And? I was wrong. I've been wrong before, but I was waaaayyy wrong about him. When I look at the players on the field, Jones is much more slender looking than either Smith and especially LVE. I used to be high on Jones, now I'm just not sure what he can play. He's too small, I think, to be a linebacker, except in specialty packages. He doesn't cover space well and he seems to lack instincts in the passing game. His instincts are more inside, running game instincts, and he's not big enough to really get it done in there, especially compared to those other guys. And Burks? I didn't see instincts on his collegiate tape. Didn't see much of them this year either. But he did pick a right gap once and filled it in "Oh My God" fashion. As in very, very fast. Not physical, though. I guess my point is this...with MLB's moving forward, I'd like instincts, not just combine results. Wherever that may be in the draft. Pairing another good MLB with Martinez would be nice.

Can you please elaborate on Ferrell? I'd love to hear your thoughts on him. I don't care about comparing him to Bosa/Allen, just thoughts concerning HIS game. I only ask because I'm only seeing highlight film of him...and as such, he's All-World. I'd love to know more from someone who sees more than just highlights.

I too enjoy watching the Cowboys play defense...just to see some of these guys they acquired. PackerRaymond was all over LVE...as others were as well. I like Smith, and rooted for him to make it back from that injury. Always been a fan of Demarcus Lawrence and when watching him, Irving jumps off of the page, too. I'd like Gute to "kick those tires", but it comes down to the contract, doesn't it? I don't know that anyone is going to risk much on a player like him with his issues. But...if he were to take a prove it deal, I hope that Gute gets in on that race. But if there is a high guaranteed portion, that is one to back away from. Irving will be an interesting player to watch in free agency.