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  1. Could The Lions Surprise and Take An OT at #8?

    Wouldn't surprise me or make me mad either. A lot of things can be covered up with a good Oline. A whole lot. Whoever they take though the guy will have to be a bonified starter day 1 or people, (including me), will look at the players drafted behind him making an impact and point it out as a failure to allocate resources properly. Hell, the only position I'll just throw my hands up and quit is if they draft a TE at 8! Even then... If somehow the guy selected has a hall-of-fame career, those Lions will prolly pull me back in cause that's about what it'll take for a TE to be worth it at 8, imo. I mean seriously, if they pick a guy and he's Gronk or Graham in his prime 2.0 then... you know ok, ok.. Not bad.

    A solid stuff right here. A, grade work, imo. Would love this offseason. Nice blend of good veterans to ease the draft picks in. I like every signing basically and the first four picks so... BOOM for me. Only think I can pick at your about is... Where is my OLINE BRAH. Where's my help? You're cutting guys, and replacing them with mid round picks.
  3. MD 1.0

    Just didn't like the draft and wasn't a fan of bringing back Ziggy unless it's for little money like 5-6 million 1 year. Flower/Wright/Ingram would be welcome additions to me though. WR Hakeem Butler doesn't up set me either in the draft. I really wanna see what he does at the combine. He could rise big time.
  4. Pre combine mock offseason.

    Eh, Maybe you guys are right someone might open up the bank. We'll wait and see I guess. I'm personally having trouble with him being worth 90 million, but, yeah I guess when you pull up the Vernon Contract he should prolly get every bit Vernon did at the very least.
  5. Complete 2019 Mock Offseason

    Lol, Man. Lotta work, prolly a good mock. Dude! Man! I Stopped reading after the trade down/TE pick. Total Lions move. Wouldn't be surprised if they did do this. If something like that happens, Literally final straw. lol.
  6. Pre combine mock offseason.

    Yeah Idk, maybe the trades are Madden-esq. People always say that about trades I put into mocks. Fournette I kinda of based of the Carlos Hyde deal and the fact that player/team don't get along. Brown, almost literally throwing something on the wall. Everyone know's he's worth more, but it seems the secrect is no one wants to really pay for him and Steelers are getting into a situation where they'll have to deal soon or release him, It's a saga that can't continue after the draft really. They don't want Bell 2.0. It's a bad look for a great, great, organization right now.
  7. Pre combine mock offseason.

    Lions restructure CB Darius Slay, and DT Damon Harrison to save around 7 million dollars all together. Lions cut OG TJ Lang. Lions cut RT Ricky Wagner Lions cut OG Kenny Wiggins Lion cut S Glover Quin. Lions cut DB Teez Tabor Lions cut S Miles Killebrew Lions cut TE Michael Roberts Lions cut FB Nick Bawden. (28.5 million Estimated saved. Cuts+Restructures.) Trade: Lions trade a 6th round pick and a 2020 5th round pick Jaguars trade RB Leonard Fournette. Lions trade WR Marvin Jones, RB Theo Riddick and a 2020 4th round pick. Steelers trade WR Antonio Brown. Signings: Lions sign OLB Trey Flowers to a 5 year deal worth 47 million dollars, 9.5 million dollar signing bonus, 7.5 million dollar salary. 30 million guaranteed. Lions sign OG A.J. Cann to a 5 year 30 million dollar deal, 7.5 million dollar signing bonus, 4.5 million dollar salary. *22 million guaranteed. Lions sign OT Jordan Mills to a 4 year deal worth 20 million, 5 million dollar signing bonus, 3.75 million dollar salary. * 10 million guaranteed. Lions sign WR Cole Beasley to a 3 year deal worth 12 million dollars, 1.5 million dollar signing bonus, 3.5 million dollar salary. Lions sign DT Malcolm Brown to a 2 year deal worth 7 million dollars, 750k dollar signing bonus, 3.125 million dollar salary. Lions sign DE/OLB Vinny Curry to a 2 year deal worth 7 million dollars, 750k dollar signing bonus, 3.125 million dollar salary. Lions sign TE Jesse James to a 2 year deal worth 8 million dollars, 2.5 million dollar signing bonus, 2.75 million dollar salary. Lions sign OLB Damien Wilson to a 2 year deal worth 5.5 million, 2.5 million dollar signing bonus, 1.275 million dollar salary. Lions sign LB Ramik Wilson to a 2 year deal worth 5.5 million, 2.5 million dollar signing bonus, 1.275 million dollar salary. Lions resign QB Matt Cassell to a 1 year deal worth 1.25 million dollars, 125k dollar signing bonus, 1.125 million dollar salary. Lions resign LS Don Mulbach to a 1 year deal worth 1.25 million dollars, 125k dollar signing bonus, 1.125 million dollars salary. Lions sign FB Tommy Bohanon to a 1 year deal worth 1.25 million dollars, 125k dollar signing bonus, 1.125 million dollars salary. Lions resign DT Ricky Jean-Francois to a 1 year deal to the league minimum. Lions resign OL Andrew Donnal to a 1 year deal to the league minimum. Lions resign TE Luke Wilson to a 1 year deal to the league minimum. Lions resign RB Zach Zenner to a 1 year deal to the league minimum. Draft: 1st- Greedy Williams, CB. LSU. ( 6’2, 185lbs. ) 2nd- Jerry Tillary, DL. Notre Dame. ( 6’6, 305lbs. ) 3rd- (Eagles) Myles Gaskins, RB. Washington. ( 5’10, 195lbs. ) 4th- Alize Mack, TE. Notre Dame. ( 6’3, 255lbs. ) 6th- (Patriots) Prince Tega Wanogho, OT. Auburn. ( 6’7, 310lbs. ) 7th- Kareem Orr, CB. Chattanooga. ( 5’11, 195lbs. ) 7th- (Dolphins) Ryan Finley, QB. N.C. State. ( 6’3 210lbs. ) Offense: OT: Jordan Mills, Andrew Donnal OG: A.J. Cann OC: Frank Ragnow, Graham Glasgow OG: Tyrell Crosby, Joe Dahl OT: Taylor Decker, Prince Tega Wanogho TE: Jesse James, Alize Mack, Luke Wilson WR: Anotnio Brown, Kenny Golladay, Cole Beasley, Andy Jones, Brandon Powell RB: Leonard Fournette, Kerryon Johnson, Myles Gaskins, Zach Zenner FB/HB/TE: Tommy Bohanon QB: Matt Stafford, Matt Cassell, Ryan Finley Defense: (3/4) (4/3) hybrid defense. DE: Jerry Tillary, Malcolm Brown, Ricky Jean-Francois DT: Damon “Snacks” Harrison, A’ Shawn Robinson DE: Da`Shawn Hand, Romeo Okwara OLB: Trey Flowers, Vinny Curry ILB: Christian Jones, Jalen Reeves-Maybin ILB: Jarrad Davis, Ramik Wilson OLB: Devon Kennard, Damien Wilson DE: Trey Flowers, Vinny Curry DT: Malcolm Brown, Jerry Tillary, Ricky Jean-Francois DT: Damon “Snacks” Harrison, A’ Shawn Robinson DE: Romeo Okwara, Da`Shawn Hand OLB: Christian Jones, Jalen Reeves-Maybin ILB: Jarrad Davis, Ramik Wilson OLB: Devon Kennard, Damien Wilson CB: Darius Slay, Jamal Agnew, Kareem Orr S: Quandre Diggs, Tavon Wilson S: Tracy Walker, Charles Washington CB: Greedy Williams, Nevin Lawson, Michael Ford Special Teams: K: Matt Prater P: Sam Martin LS: Don Mulbach
  8. The Lions Den: The Anything Thread

    Basketball is way different now from then. Players now'a'days are walking mini franchises themselves. Idk, the product is still entertaining but the players aren't likable or in anyway relate-able to fans anymore. Still on the players side for the most part though, Billionaire owners still making a killing off these franchises either way and the players are the product but the show will always go on with or without them because good owners know all products have shelf-lives... so players should grab as much as they possibly can while they can. It's a short window.
  9. The Lions Den: The Anything Thread

    Meh, I expected more deals honestly. This was just dumping off guys they can't afford to bring back. They're still trying to make the playoffs without really being buyers imo. Idk maybe "baby-steps" and a compromise with the owner. I really, really wanted one of either Jackson/Drummond to be traded. I knew both couldn't and like you kind of expect, I'm thinking Blake might be moved in the summer. Now though, hard to move all three in the summer. I'm going to guess Pistons make it as the 8th seed in the east and lose Blakes contract in the summer and finish out both Drummond/Jacksons years on contract. They're just losers, lol. The owner sucks. We know it. Idk how to explain what I'm seeing now that the deadline is over other than like... They tried to "walk the line". I don't think this was a complete attempt to go in rebuild mode for the summer/draft and it was definitely not an attempt to get better now,( doesn't suggest it's a total fact but history says both guys we traded for played lesser roles than the players we gave up. So it's hard to believe we're better now than before without replacing those wings especially, and gaining guys that aren't in win now mode but look to need development. ) but we also didn't really shed enough future salary to make a difference outside the draft. Gotta hope for losses and a top 3 pick now! Also, quite honestly we have to hope every offseason the team is sold too.
  10. The Lions Den: The Anything Thread

    Don't hate the moves. I feel Bullock had more value, because he comes with his bird rights and was a UFA at the end of the year, but whatever. I actually kind of like Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk, I think his ceiling in a Marco Benelli type player, wing, shooting guard. Doesn't mean he will be that but, he's just that type of player/shooter. Surprised LA traded him but they're looking to compete vs develop. Thon Maker swap was alright, Johnson has no future here and no one behind Drummond/Griffin has a large role on this team so Maker can fit in the fold nicely as a big if he works at it. His game foils both our big perfectly and should be able to play both C/PF. 220lbs is lite, but he's 7'1. Really just needs to improve that shoot consistency, cause that's what Pistons really want him to bring to the table. Over here sweating they don't trade for Mike Conley unless it unloads a bunch of contract. I think i would do something like Drummond/Jackson/Protected 1st for Gasol/Conley. Long shot... cause Utah is offering a good trade for just Conley. I don't expect a MAJOR move, but Ish Smith can be hand for a 2nd round pick. Pistons also have a collection of trade exceptions to work with to add... some sort of talent. They basically have no Small Forwards right now, so, somethings got to give.
  11. Insane Mock With Trades That May Not Be So Crazy

    I think I like the trade back with the Browns the best out of all this. Hate alot of everything else. I don't like the Marvin Jones move either, little cheap for a 4th rounder imo, and... His replacement will cost more than he does salary wise.
  12. Lions’ Trevor Bates arrested

    Doesn't necessarly say but I'm really doubting he was sober. An I'm older now, but highschool through about 25 I did some pretty rediculous things I wouldn't consider "Normal" but I'm not that guy or kid no more either so yeah idk. I can forgive a dude for something like this if it's an isolated incident. Not like a trend of violence with the dude.(I don't think) For what it's worth he was set for a mental evaluation also, but I think the guy was clearly a little intoxicated. Right enough to call the cab, but couldn't pull it together and follow through. Childish, for sure, not even cool. He hurt someone. But my point is if it was Slay he'd be on this team. We had an executive go through a fast food parking lot naked drunk and keep his job so... yeah. He'll be cut cause he's not that good and a well... a dumbass. Your standards though, aren't high. It's completely normal to expect someone to act... normal lol, Might not be a bad thing for a loser organization.
  13. Senior Bowl Players That Would Make Sense For Us

    Depending on who's there I hope they just selected a really good player vs trade down(unless it's like with Miami). I dont' wanna move down a bunch just cause Lions have guys "rated" the same around 8. We're right in that sweet spot to where just someone "should"/"could" fall right into our laps. Everyone will welcome a lot of these names. OLB Josh Allen, LB Devin White, CB Greedy Williams, OT Johnah Williams, DE/OLB Clelin Ferrell, DT Christian Wilkins, DT Dexter Lawrence, DT Ed Oliver. These are basically the players in my head that I'm juggling between. I'll be really happy with one of the eight and in a above mentioned trade down scenario I'd need like 3 or 4 of these guys still available while not moving down far(like I mentioned maybe Miami.). Devin White to me is really good. I liked him most the season except vs Alabama. I've seen him compaired to Jonathan Vilma from the Jets and it's an ok comparison to me. Lions could really use a LB'er like him and move Davis over or out as a back up. I also agree that TE/OLBorDE/ and OL will be targeted throughout the draft, I really just refuse to believe that a TE is worth a top 10 selection in this draft, or most any for that matter.
  14. Picking 8th

    It's not real. They're not really going to take a TE. I posted it as a joke but honestly. They won't take one, there are other better players available at 8 that won't be TE's. Just mock dummies treating the Lions like well... Dummies. 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds? Those are up for grabs at alot of positions but I'll ALMOST bet 1,000$ a TE isn't taken at 8.
  15. Lions’ Trevor Bates arrested

    He'll get cut because his skills aren't top notch value. Not cause he's a loser. People make mistakes. This will cost him big. Likely his NFL career now.