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  1. Mock Off First-Pick

    I'm not sure you even picked one starter/early contributor with the first three out of four picks. Rapp, imo, has a chance, but the others need time/work imo to be effective NFL starters. I like adding pass rushers but not really Burns. An I'm not sure the trade downs/double down is really like believable/legit. Good idea just, far-fetched I guess is what I'm saying. Like the second mock better. First two picks have chances to latch on to real roles/starting positions. The two CB's can be eased into the system and really worked into the game plan as the year goes on and they catch up with the defense/concepts. I think Moreau/Mack can be solid back up, rotational guys. Moreau is a 1st/2nd down/goalline blocker and Mack is that nice big NT you like on 1st and 2nd down that can come in on occasion during games. First mock, solid D/C grade(I'm not not a fan, sorry.). Second Mock I'm going to give a B. Good/useful players, not sure you've drafted a stud but that's fine cause there about four guys that look useful with the others getting a chance to develop, (Specifically Tony Pollard).

    Pretty cool, I'll do my top 5 at each position at least. An my favorite choices for the Lions selections bolded in blue for the 8th pick. OT: Greg Little, Jawaan Taylor, Andre Dillard, Max Scharping, Yodny Cajuste. OG: Jonah Williams, Cody Ford, Dalton Risner, Chris Lindstrom, Connor McGovern. OC: Garrett Bradbury, Elgton Jenkins, Erik Mccoy QB: Dwayne Haskins, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Ryan Finley RB: Josh Jacobs, Damien Harris, Miles Sanders, Bryce Love, David Montgomery TE: Irv Smith, TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant, Jace Sternberger, Kahale Warring WR: DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, N’Keal Harry, Deebo Samuel, Parris Campbell DE/OLB: Josh Allen, Montez Sweat, Jaylon Ferguson, Chase Winovich, Brian Burns DE: Nick Bosa, Rashan Gary, Clelin Ferrell DT: Quinnen Williams, Ed Oliver, Dexter Lawrence, Christian Wilkins, Jerry Tillery LB: Devin White, Devin Bush, Mack Wilson S: Darnell Savage, Juan Thornhill, Taylor Rapp, Johnathan Abram, Chauncey Gardner-Johnson. CB: Greedy Williams, Byron Murphy, Rock Ya-Sin, Justin Layne, Trayvon Mullen. K: Matt Gay, Cole Tracy
  3. The Lions Den: The Anything Thread

    This is nice. Finally! Something for the fans! Not expecting an instant turn around or anything but the moves will be fun to watch/see the next 2/3 years.
  4. A "Fant-astic" Mock

    Yeah I'm piggy backing this. RG is just a glaring hole with no real answers and different solutions by many. If we wanna run or pass block a upgrade is needed at RG. The way the game is called for CB's I really don't see value( or a ton ) in drafting a high CB to essentailly play half the snaps outside on defense vs a RG that's going to start full time. If there is literally one thing I think we can hang bob Quinns hat on is... getting good/serviceable Olinemen through the draft. Coleman has played inside and outside, he's not really just an exclusive slot(though he was mostly in Seattle, basically) but Patriots used him everywhere.(Under Patricia) There's already two veterans for spot duty on the outside lined up with Melvin/Cooper. We Could see a backfield with Coleman/Walker/Wilson/Adams and one of Cooper/Melvin moving in and out quite a bit with only Slay/Diggs being legitimate 3 down DB's. Whether you toss a rookie in or not isn't a difference maker to me unless he's a bonified starting CB in this league, which, likely isn't the case with a 2nd, 3rd round guy. I don't see based of projections or personal judgement that guy being there in the 2nd round for us. We can legitimately find a starting RG in the 2nd round and expect him to be a solid/good starter vs trying to do the same with a 2nd round CB, imo. Cody Ford, Chris Lindstrom, Dalton Risner... Those are guys I think we have a shot at that... Slip on like a glove, fit in the fold, plug and play players with real shots of doing really well for us and upgrading the offense/team performance. I rather work on a DB player for a year in the 3rd round or later like Sean Bunting from CMU or something. A guy with skill, just maybe not sharp with film study, professionalism, etc. Round those edges for awhile and give him a chance mid season this year or next year. * Now about the mock, Man... Not much I like honestly fella, Boykins/Hill are literally it. Don't want to trade down, not at all for a TE. Ever. But then the player, it just totally lost me and as I went down the mock I got more and more lost. You've done much better work than this.
  5. Lions sign RB CJ Anderson

    Don't hate it or love it. I don't know if he'll be anything great. Better options out there still than to settle on an older veteran like this. That being said, I think he'll be very average behind Johnson, someone that'll be able to take the tougher yards, 1st downs, goal-line, etc. Not sure he'll be a dual threat out of the backfield like some available could of been.
  6. The Lions Den: The Anything Thread

    Not good. Nothing neat about it. Hope for a full, great, healthy recovery.
  7. The Lions Den: The Anything Thread

    Tigers? Lol.
  8. The Lions Den: The Anything Thread

    Gotta do it boys. Everyone knows it. Seen it. Heard about it. There hasn't been a rivalry in professional sports that reached the passion these two teams had.
  9. Free Agent Rumors--Who Are The Lions Going After?

    I'd trade for him. Give up something like a later/mid round pick, but he's due around 13 million each year for three years with no cap hit if released. Might be worth a 1 year flier and decide what to do with him next offseason(Keep/restructure/release). Harrison/McCoy could be "TOUGH" next to eachother.

    Lotta research done here but I don't see the correlations between what he did in Seattle or Minnesota to what he's going to do here. Real time situations in the games(losing vs winning) are going to throw these numbers off every which way. Seattle for awhile didn't have a TE that was much of a threat. I don't think a team/coach knows going into the season how much they're going to typically target the TE position throughout the season. An a lot has to do with the QB too, since he's ultimately the guy letting the ball go to... whoever(which ever option that players was in the receiving tree.) What I like best about Bevell is he sets up the offense to control the game with a lead.
  11. Free Agent Rumors--Who Are The Lions Going After?

    https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/631/andrew-donnal Resign OL Andrew Donnal too.
  12. Free Agent Rumors--Who Are The Lions Going After?

    Yeah good post there on Kerryon. He made me a believer when I watched him this year. I think he's a good player and we need to figure out how to keep him healthy. A healthy season can see him get big numbers. Lions just need to add someone behind him that's not completely terrible. I like that they brought in Spencer Ware. Nothing great, but can handle 10 carriers/touches a game and do something with it. Bigger guy too who can catch a little. Grind out a win with a big lead for the Lions and not bust up Johnson. Glad Rams matched the offer or whatever with the RB we tried to take from them.
  13. Free Agent Rumors--Who Are The Lions Going After?

    I'm alright with Logan Thomas honestly. He'll just get a shot to be a depth TE. Low risk high reward. Ok move, idk if anyone here expect him to be a starter, so if he polishes up some routes, plays specail teams well, he'll get a shot I think. Making me less nervous they'll trade down and draft a TE.
  14. Free Agent Rumors--Who Are The Lions Going After?

    Who cares? He was on a team playing with the lead most of the time vs the lions who... yeah. Were making pretend 4th quarter come backs. Both years... Idk, dude isnt' good, Christain Jones isn't good. On top of the catfish. Common, wtf are you doing?
  15. Free Agent Rumors--Who Are The Lions Going After?

    What do you like about him? Serious question too. These last two signings are why I think other people can run the Lions better. These dudes are completely average. You don't sign them NOW. They'd of been around after the draft, BOTH of them. Like damnit. Lions pass up oppertunitty on good players every year to sign Cornelius Washington, the dude from Seattle last year, Wiggins, Akeem Spence, now we've got that guy from the Saints that can't buy a flag from a ref and the super-duper back up from the Rams that averages less than 3 carries per game. I don't wanna keep hearing this junk about filling holes or placing bodies pre-draft so they don't need to draft for need. Dang man. Just sign good players, draft the best ones available, and sign the patch jobs after-wards and maybe even when rosters are trimmed. For a little reference maybe... People don't like Zach Zenner but when given the chance he's played better and done more than Malcolm Brown, so what gives here? Should of took a flier on our boy, WR Chris Hogan and RB TJ Yeldon vs these junk signings. I hope rookies come in and get them cut. I mean, we over-paid but people can at least reason out 40-50 catches from Amendola... MAYBE more if he actually makes a whole season! But these two signings... what are we expecting here career years from two players on a new team the first year? Sheesh!