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  1. Darwin Quintero the guy with more twitter followers than Adam Thielen, Stefon Diggs, and Dalvin Cook...Combined
  2. Still had 11 games to go and didn't appear to be as good as other teams in the NFC...Seahawks, Bears, Bengals, Cowboys were their wins...
  3. Don't forget the Packers for that list. They were getting tons of hype, but really didn't have that special of a roster. Similar to this year really. To an extent you certainly can look at what happened last year and see that it has bearing on this season. For example, we can look at certain players that have broken out, and see that they can be difference makers going forward: Alvin Kamara, Marshon Lattimore, Jared Goff, Todd Gurley, Carson Wentz, Adam Thielen, etc. come to mind. The opposite can also be true, we can see key players that show rapid decline: Jordy Nelson, Brandon Marshall, Adrian Peterson, etc. Looking at rosters from a pure talents standpoint, and recent success leads me to believe the Packers are not among the top 4 teams in the NFC coming into the season. Yep they had tons of young talent, and a new coach. They had a guy in Jared Goff who was a number 1 pick come out and play up to his draft status. They had a young innovative coach come in and help the team evolve into a playoff team. They also had Todd Gurley bounce back with a huge season who flashed as a rookie as being a potential star at RB. Most people already knew that they had the talent there it was just a matter of getting the most out of it that they can. I don't see that type of talent on the Packers roster, and the Packers have in my opinion a tougher division to play in this year. In 2016 the Eagles were also showing flashes of their future dominance as if I'm not mistaken the Eagles were one of the last undefeated teams in the NFL in 2016. They had their QB in Carson Wentz look elite at times in 2017. At the end of the day, I see the Saints, Vikings, Rams, and Eagles all being superior teams to the Packers from a talent standpoint, and going off of recent history. Obviously it is the NFL and anything can happen, but for now I just don't see a case for the Packers.
  4. I doubt they are even the best team in their division this year (Vikings). I really don't see what is so special about the Packers roster. Sure they have a great QB in Rodgers, but outside of that I just don't buy the hype with teams like the Saints, Vikings, Rams, Eagles, etc. in the NFC.
  5. Top 10 RB

    Butch Jones/Mark Ingram (2x Pro Bowl RB/2nd All Time leading rusher in Saints history). Also, these things happen where guys for whatever circumstances have better NFL careers than college careers. Two that immediately come to mind are: Tom Brady- Not much needs to be said regarding his college career compared to his NFL career. Priest Holmes- Played 4 years with the Texas Longhorns. In those 4 years he had the following totals for carries: 34 carries, 39 carries, 120 carries, and 59 carries. He finished his 4 year college career with 1,276 rushing yards. Priest Holmes in the NFL ran for 8,172 yards and 86 touchdowns. During Priest's rookie season he logged a whopping 0 rushes. Frank Gore- Never had over 200 carries in a collegiate season or eclipsed 1,000 rush yards in any of his 3 college seasons, but has had 9 seasons of rushing over 1,000 yards in the NFL. Terrell Davis- In 4 college football seasons never had over 167 carries in a season. He never eclipsed 1,000 yards rushing in a college season. In the NFL he had 4 seasons over 1,000 yards rushing and 1 over 2,000 yards rushing.
  6. Top 10 RB

    Led the NFL in YPC last year and had 9 rushing touchdowns splitting carries..
  7. Top 10 RB

    Yes, he is bigger. It just plays into this crazy myth that Cook is this workhorse back and Kamara can't handle the load when Kamara literally has prototypical size for the RB position (Was 215lbs as a rookie, and I've read he is 5-10lbs bigger this year). Cook got injured again. Kamara had over 100 yards of offense 8 times last year, and had over 75 yards of offense 12 times last year. All while splitting time with another Pro Bowl caliber RB. I'm thrilled with that output as a Saints fan. It's also funny to me that in each of Cook's 4 games, his best YPC average in a single game was 5.8 YPC even when he had games with "limited" carries 12 rushes, and 13 rushes. Alvin Kamara over the entire season averaged 6.1 YPC, or in other words his season average was literally better than any of Cook's individual performances. Kamara's "limited" rushes are a product of having another Pro Bowl RB on the roster nothing more. He touched the ball 15 or more times in 7 games last year, and had 14 touches in 3 other games. It just seems like a silly argument that he can't handle a few more touches a game.
  8. Top 10 RB

    If I'm not mistaken Kamara on offense was hardly involved in the season opener against the Vikings (Mark Ingram, and Adrian Peterson ahead of him on the depth chart), but I'll gladly take 15 touches on offense for 105 yards and a touchdown in the playoffs against the Vikings. Obviously you only posted carries for a reason though and conveniently left out receptions. It's also an apples to oranges comparison as the Vikings undoubtedly have a better defense especially against the run. So even when the Vikings limited Kamara in the run game, he still pulled things like this off in the playoffs.
  9. Top 10 RB

    Man you know it's the slow time of the year on this forum when people start making claims such as "Cook is easily better than Kamara". Even if Cook didn't tear his ACL last year, he still wasn't playing on the same level as Kamara. It's also amusing to me that Kamara is a bigger RB than Cook, and has nowhere near the recent injury history of Cook (Hamstring/Ankle/ACL/3 shoulder surgeries), but people somehow feel that Cook has shown that he is the workhorse of the two. Getting more carries than someone, but always being dinged up doesn't fulfill the whole durability/workhorse checkbox. These consistent injuries could set him on a Percy Harvin like career path. Shows promise, but never much more due to not being able to stay on the field. What we do know is that one RB (Kamara) has shown he can play a full season and more importantly finish the season ranked among the best RB's in the NFL (All-Pro, Pro Bowl, Just about every RB ranking I've seen), and do it against some of the best defenses in the NFL (Panthers, Rams, and Vikings come to mind). The other RB played in 4 games where he played well against average at best run defenses.
  10. Saints Mark Ingram suspended 4 games

    No this past year was mostly the same Mark Ingram us Saints fans have seen for years. It was just much more hyped up with his new counterpart also doing great things in Alvin Kamara. He was statistically very similar in 2016. It wasn't like last year was some sort of crazy breakout year for him. Had he not missed time in 2015, he would have likely had similar numbers to 2016/2017 as his averages per game were also similar. As for hurting the Saints for the 4 games he misses, it might (If Kamara gets injured), but I doubt it will make much difference for that short of a time frame. We have a top 5/top 10 RB in Alvin Kamara, we have a HOF QB in Drew Brees, we have a top 5/top 10 WR in Michael Thomas, we have a great OL (That is currently all healthy...Knock on wood), and we just signed a talented number 2 WR in Cameron Meredith. Without Ingram, our offense still has about 4-5 guys that have legit shots at being Pro Bowl level players this year: Brees- Pro Bowl (x11) Kamara- 2017 Pro Bowl Thomas- 2017 Pro Bowl Armstead- 2015 Pro Bowl Warford- 2017 Pro Bowl
  11. How would Alabama fare in the NFL?

    If they took the Falcons schedule last year, I see them going 14-2, with a 1st round bye in the playoffs. Obviously they'd lose twice to my beloved Saints, but would easily win their other 14 games. The NFL (Minus my Saints...Obviously) just can't keep up with that SEC speed everyone raves about. Can you imagine if guys like AJ Mccarron, and Trent Richardson were just a few years younger so they could lead this stacked Alabama offense to even greater heights in the NFL.
  12. Saints Mark Ingram suspended 4 games

    Yeah I suppose Green Bay's roster isn't quite what it used to be, and maybe Aaron Rodgers will have a case of the yips after another injury filled season. On the bright side at least they will have the Saints 1st round pick, which should be a pick in the high 20's/low 30's
  13. Mark Ingram suspended 4 games for PEDs

    More touches for Kamara. If anything we are a better team with Kamara getting more touches as long as he doesn't get injured.
  14. Saints Mark Ingram suspended 4 games

    While I am a bit bummed that Ingram was suspended, it doesn't effect the Saints really in a negative way as Kamara getting more touches only hurts opposing defenses. Now if Kamara were to go down in the first couple games, then Ingram would have put us in a bad position, but for now we are fine.
  15. No you really can say the Vikings duo easily over the Giants. Harrison Smith was in the conversation for Defensive Player of the year last year, and was EASILY the best Safety in football last year. He also has had much more sustained success than Collins, and has had a higher peak than Collins has shown thus far in his career. Smith's 2017 is better than any season Collins has had to date. Xavier Rhodes has been an absolute beast, Jenkins has not had the peak that Rhodes has had. Rhodes 2017 is better than Jenkins best season.
  16. No they are being rated pretty accurately in this scenario. This is one of the rare times on this website where I see people saying they would easily take a combo "easily" over another, and it is actually fitting. Harrison Smith is considered by many to be the best Safety in the NFL, and at worst top 3 by the the vast majority of people. He was the highest rated player by PFF at any position last season with a 98.8 rating, which is by far the highest Safety grade they've ever given. He's also coming off a 1st Team All Pro season. I'd take Smith over Collins without hesitation. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-harrison-smith-the-pff-dwight-stephenson-award-winner Xavier Rhodes is also considered by most to be a top 3/top 5 CB in the NFL. I'd take him over Jenkins every time. Rhodes is also coming off a 1st Team All Pro season.
  17. Browns Offense vs. Jets Offense

    The Browns offense is actually looking like a unit that has potential to be good in the very near future. Solid OL. A serviceable QB in Tyrod Taylor along with a talented rookie QB in Mayfield. 3 talented RB's in Chubb, Duke Johnson, and Hyde. The WR/TE group may be the biggest question mark, but from a pure talent standpoint there aren't many I'd say are better. Josh Gordon can be elite and is still just 27 years old. Jarvis Landry is one of the best slot WR's in the NFL. Corey Coleman has flashed potential, but just hasn't stayed healthy. Antonio Callaway may be the most talented rookie WR this year, but needs to stay out of trouble. Then they have Njoku at TE that appears to have all sorts of talent. The Browns strategy of stockpiling picks was obviously a gamble as far as their production in the short term, but now after a couple seasons of utilizing this strategy things appear to be trending upward for them.
  18. Is Drew Brees a Top 10 QB of all time?

    QB being the most crucial position...Yes. QB's winning in the post season being determining factor on how we evaluate QB's...Shouldn't be. How they played should be the factor, not a W or an L. This logic promotes Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco, etc. over guys like Dan Marino, Fran Tarkenton, Warren Moon, etc. I just can't see an inconsistent passer like Elway (in comparison to Brees) accustomed to much better supporting casts, driving his team like Brees did for well over a decade leading one of the best offensive attacks on a yearly basis. I continue to give the edge to Brees as he has shown he can dominate against teams both on the road and at home in the playoffs, and elevating his game to even higher levels in the playoffs compared to his already stellar regular season level of play.
  19. Is Drew Brees a Top 10 QB of all time?

    Thankfully it's not all about numbers, and saying Tony Romo in the same sentence is a slap in the face to a guy like Drew Brees. Just for fun though with numbers, in just 3 playoff games during the 2010/2011 seasons, Drew Brees put up better total/efficiency numbers than Tony Romo had in all of his 6 career postseason games combined. Brees 3 postseason games (2010/2011 seasons)- 1,332 yards passing, 9 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, 68% completion percentage Romo 6 career postseason games- 1,316 yards passing, 8 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, 61.6% completion percentage I would rather have a QB that does everything in his power to win the game putting up crazy numbers, essentially every post season game he played (Brees) vs. Elway with "modest numbers" making some key plays. Football is a team game regardless of how great of performances a QB puts up. At the end of the day, no individual player can overcome that, so if there are serious deficiencies on a team, they likely won't be going far in the playoffs (Saints defense for many years). I could care less about Elway having "the gun to succeed". Brees has shown he has plenty of arm strength to destroy the best defenses in the league when it counts most in the playoffs both home and on the road.
  20. Is Drew Brees a Top 10 QB of all time?

    I disagree, you certainly don't have to go Elway over Brees in the postseason. Brees has been phenomenal in the postseason throughout his career. His career postseason efficiency numbers even surpass his career regular season efficiency numbers, which tells me from a numbers standpoint that his level of play goes up when it matters most. Also watching everyone of his postseason games, it is easy to see that he absolutely dominates in the postseason. For example, if we take the 2011 playoffs Drew Brees played against the Lions (Home), and 49ers (Away). At home against the Lions Drew Brees threw for 466 yards and 3 touchdowns, which I suppose is to be expected since it's Brees playing indoors in a perfect climate, but surely his "lack of arm strength" would effect him greatly playing against the 49ers (best defense in the league) on the road in an outdoor setting in 2011. In this game against the 49ers he only pulled off 462 yards passing, and 4 touchdowns. Had his defense not been one of the worst in NFL history to make the postseason, his 2011 performances would have been remembered as some of the best in NFL history, but unfortunately they lost against the 49ers despite one of the best postseason performances ever played by a QB. In just 2 postseason games in 2011 Brees had 928 yards passing, 7 touchdowns, 69% completion percentage, and a 110 QB rating. That is absolutely crazy production.
  21. When Does Lamar Jackson Start His First Game?

    I'm guessing he starts midway through this upcoming season. Joe Flacco's QB Rating's the past 3 years are 83.1, 83.5, and 80.4. Or in other words, among the worst in the league during the timespan for starting QB's. I'm sure once the Ravens start to struggle this year, they will make the change and start the Lamar Jackson era.
  22. Draft Day Thread: 1st Round Discussion

    I'd be lying if I said I wasn't bummed about not picking Lamar Jackson after trading up. That said, Marcus Davenport would have been my next choice at 14, so I'm not too upset. I just hope this one doesn't come back to bite us in a couple years with Lamar Jackson turning into a superstar, and Davenport being just a good pass rusher for what we paid. From an athletic standpoint I don't know if there is another DE/LB in this draft I'd take over Davenport. He looks like an absolute beast on the field, even if it's been against lower level competition. Athletically he tested very similar to a guy like Jadeveon Clowney, which say a lot about how freakish Davenport really is. Davenport: http://draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=132376&draftyear=2018&genpos=DE Clowney: http://www.draftscout.com/ratings/pyrnotes.php?pyid=119316&draftyear=2014&genpos=DE
  23. Draft Rumors

    My fingers are crossed that these trade up rumors are true, and the Saints pick Lamar Jackson. The thought of Lamar Jackson and Alvin Kamara in the backfield together may put some fear in defensive coordinators
  24. Prediction: Saints will light draft night on fire!

    While it's possible, I don't know that this is the case here. I don't think Vince Young and Cam Newton are comparable to each other. As you mentioned Vince Young is an extreme case that never was able to adapt to the NFL. Cam Newton has been on some really bad offenses, but has also won an MVP, and lead the Panthers to a Super Bowl. In the case of Newton I don't mind that if he can consistently be a good QB. I don't think his attitude is the culprit for his inconsistent accuracy. With Mayfield he is an entirely different QB than a guy like Vince Young in their path to the draft. Vince Young coming out of high school was rated as the number 1 recruit in the nation by many scouting services, and was an absolute physical freak. He rarely lost in high school or college, and had as much hype as I can remember for any QB coming out of the draft with his historic National Championship game. Baker Mayfield was an undersized low rated recruit that didn't even receive a scholarship from Texas Tech, even after stringing together a solid stretch of games for them as a freshman. He then transferred to Oklahoma, and ascended up the ranks as one of the best in the nation. While that energy may get him in trouble sometimes with silly flags, I'd be shocked if he doesn't continue to play with that chip on his shoulder with the path he had to take to get where he is now.
  25. Prediction: Saints will light draft night on fire!

    I get that all, but the initial statement read a bit different than that all of that to me: "even if he does become the best QB in the draft, which I doubt, I think he's not worth the 1st." I took that as a statement of looking back in hindsight that if he is to become the best QB in this draft, he still isn't worth a 1st round pick. May just be a silly mix up. I suppose fair enough if you don't view him as a 1st at this point in time. I respectfully disagree, and have him as a guy that in a system like ours will go on to be a very good QB in the NFL for years to come.