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  1. Bell contract 2018

    With the restructured contract of Heyward (which was odd) do you think the Steelers are targeting Earl Thomas or a linebacker from the Texans? We know both teams COULD use Bell and just let him be their problem. Even if it's just rental for them, they may pull the trigger.
  2. Jon Bostic

    I understand, personally, I'm not comfortable with Matakevich and Williams, even with Bostic as our inside linebackers, but can you really say we would be able to find a true upgradeable inside linebacker via trade, free agency, or recently draft? We did miss out on Evans. Instead, we addressed the safety position and got a safety who can mimic what Shazier did for us. So, either our FO is a group of staffing who doesn't know what to do or Butler had a plan and will employ our inside linebacker in a zone/cage situation (as much I like Watt, they misused him). I would like to see Watt and Dupree constantly attack the backfield, both have the athleticism for it. Let them. Let them spill, the cage/spill concept can change how we use our linebackers and we have been using our outside linebackers to the cage concept. I can't find the article via Steelersdepot but Alex Koroza did a good job explaining what those were. Basically, we had Harrison and Woodley cage in and keep the running game to run inside instead of outside. We need to spill, let them attack the run in the backfield like how the Eagles or some wide-nine scheme would.
  3. Jon Bostic

    Did you just contradict yourself, Armsteeld2? Matakevich may not be fast as we would like, but he's not that slow. What Tyler has to offer is the intelligence in phases where he's a communicator and he not only can position players in right spots to make the players but so he would be the last man of the frontier when a ball-carrier gets out. Tyler and Vince Williams both are DIFFERENT kinds of player. Referring to your second comment on Williams; exactly, when the schemed to get open. When we lost Shazier, his value as pass rusher went down because teams didn't have to worry about Shazier anymore. On this defense without a playmaker like Shazier, do you truly think Vince Williams still has the same value? I love Williams, this isn't about whether I like him or not. It's always about what the best 11-men can provide on the defense, simultaneously based on the chemistry and communication. Bostic and Tyler both compliment each other better than Vince with any other inside linebackers. However... I could see Vince Williams being paired up with either Burnett or Edmunds. It's a moot to argue about the starting lineup as we will see a lot of rotations between ILBs and SS anyway.
  4. Jon Bostic

    One of the slowest who also is our best tackler versus... Somebody athletic who is unreliable in tackling. Take your poison.
  5. Jon Bostic

    Essentially we have three solid linebackers with different skillsets. Vince Williams- Thumper who can pass-rush really well. Tyler Matakevich- Intelligent, best tackler, and cerebral Mike who can also help with communication Jon Bostic- best all-around inside linebacker we got. Problem? Neither of them can really compliment each other well. The best pair, my opinion right now is Tyler and Jon. We have Watts and Dupree and other defensive linemen to do the pass rushing, let them do their jobs. Vince Williams is really good at what he is at; that being said, he can be very expendable solely based on the scheme, just like how Kendricks was from the Eagles. We all can agree easily; we DO want to upgrade the inside linebacker, but I don't see that as an option unless we trade for an all-star (pro bowler) inside linebacker and who's available? Are we even willing to lose somebody for that player? Would it suddenly improve our defense? We boosted our safety position with the draft and free agency, which likely will see more playing time. Point being... You want a player like Bostic sees more playing time, not the other two. Here's why: Running downs- You still need somebody big and athletic enough to play versatile concepts of spill and cage. Can't just rotate a linebacker in and out for certain situations, you need the consistency. Passing downs- You want somebody who you can mask in the coverage and be asked to do a variety of things. Bostics can do many things, maybe just decent or good at few things but he can do it, not great- we got to tame our expectation. Communication- It was problematic, we got Bostic in for this purpose and if Bostic can make the call he usually would position himself better and that's something we need NOW. Position value- we got him for dirt cheap. It wasn't his fault he played on a bunch of worst defenses in past few years and when he played for the Patriots (as some would point out he didn't get any playing time and was traded for basically free) he was playing behind this group: Hightower, Collins, Mayo, and McCellin. https://www.patspulpit.com/2016/5/10/11648098/heres-why-the-patriots-gave-lb-jon-bostic-away-to-the-lions-pretty Usually, I don't like giving players "benefit of the doubt" when they bounce from team to team, however, with further researching, Bostic seems to be a guy with really bad luck. His transaction history: 1). Chicago Bears drafted him in 2013, 2nd round. Jon Bostic led in tackles, got hurt. The Bears praised him for being a good linebacker, however, with a change of scheme they decided to trade him. 2). Patriots traded for Jon Bostic Bostic got buried on the depth chart. Bill Belichick praised him for his versatility, traded him anyway. 3). Lions receive Jon Bostic in a trade Bostic got hurt in the Lions-Steelers scrimmage game, got IR'd, became an unrestricted free agent. Lions drafted Jarrad Davis, decided to let Bostic walk. 4). Indianipolis Colts signed him as a free agent Bostic led in tackles, got hurt by end of the season. Ballard and the Colts FO praised Bostic, let him walk anyway and draft Darius Leonard. 5). Jon Bostic signs with the Steelers. As you can see, we shouldn't be arguing about the talents of Bostic. We should be only alarmed by his injury history.
  6. LB trade?

    Agree- that being said, even with the fact I do like what Vince Williams has to offer, he's been the one who does the pass-rushing and the team asked Dupree to drop in the coverage. I think that's becoming an issue, as for the coverage-wise you should have Vince Williams to continues pass-rushing and do nothing else then leaving a player like Dupree not reaching his potentials or you can have Bostic in there (he's much better in coverage than Vince Williams and we all know it) and Dupree will see his value increase as he can produce. It's an issue of Butler trying to be more versatile and Vince Williams doesn't fit in the picture. Kendricks is actually a good buck LB (however, he is technically an athletic version of Vince Williams). I'm just toying with the idea, being a devil's advocate. We couldn't upgrade the LB position way we wanted to with Evans. Vince Williams and Dirty Red both are a different kind of players. Matakevich is a much better tackler and he's more cerebral for the Mike position. Vince Williams could pass rush because he had Shazier and when we lost Shazier, Vince Williams' pass rushing value went down as the quarterback can release the ball sooner. I do agree that Dirty Red is a decent depth and that's it, but so is Vince Williams. Yet we are debating who's starting and this shows you how bad the starting position is. I'm just hoping we do make a trade for a real linebacker. Not Kendricks. First, we gotta trade away a depth LB though.
  7. LB trade?

    Nobody wants Vince Williams to be traded? Interesting.
  8. Who plays MLB this year

    I am pretty sure it has more to do with seeing what Tyler Matakevich can do than it does with Jon Bostic. We all already knew what kind of players both are, but not much with Tyler. Also, maybe it's how we will play our scheme now? Perhaps differently? For example, the next closest guy to replace what Shazier can do is TJ Watt and Dupree is there athletically, they may ask our OLBs to do more of the "spill" and play as chase LBs (They are capable of it) and leaving our two LBs in the zone as we will have a Nickel safety coming in and replace one of the linebackers for the passing downs anyway. It's going to be an interesting camp.
  9. Jon Bostic

    Exactly which is why I was actually surprised to see Red getting the first-team reps at a different position. Something's up.
  10. LB trade?

    When seeing this, you probably are thinking I'm talking about the recently released Kendricks, but I'm not. I think there is a bigger story than the release of Kendricks- here it is: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933795/article/eagles-lb-paul-worrilow-suffers-torn-acl-during-otas Worrilow is signed as a depth player for the Lions, was considered as a part-time starter (rotational LB) and he was going to see some legit playing time at the outside linebacker position (until he tore his ACL. Yes, AFTER the fact the Eagles released Mychal Kendricks (which baffles me even more) so what if we trade one of our LB to the Eagles? Here's what I'm proposing: Eagles receive: Vince Williams Steelers receive: 5th round pick Why the Steelers and Eagles may go for it: Steelers now wants Kendricks as their MACK LB and with Bostic being a versatile LB, Bostic could be moved to the Buck role as he will compete with Matakevich for the role. Having Kendricks would bring back the original blueprint that Keith Butler wanted with his defense. The Eagles currently have nobody to play the strongside (SAM) for them, at least not anybody good. Vince Williams would fit in that role really well as he has the physicality to bring in, I expect them to rotate Williams in and out with a nickel CB. Why the Steelers and Eagles may not go for it: Making this trade means too much of turnover for our inside linebacker position, they would lose a really good pass-rushing inside linebacker and Kendricks may be asking for too much. The Eagles would instead, go look into the free agency and possibly sign some of the aged linebackers like Lawrence Timmons. If you were the GM, do you pick up the phone? What other prospects would you trade Vince Williams for?
  11. Jon Bostic

    Red is our current best Buck on the roster, that's not saying much. Vince Williams is a decent buck- but we all know he's a pass-rushing inside linebacker. I suspect they are just giving him first-team reps to see what he's capable of right now. If we were to pair up Williams and Red, I'd expect MORE pass rushing from our OLBs.
  12. Who plays MLB this year

    Pass. I do like Kendricks- just we got Jon Bostic and they both play similar positions. What do we do with Bostic now? Makes no sense. Had we didn't sign Bostic, this signing would have been fantastic!
  13. Jon Bostic

    As much I like Red, I feel like he's Zach Thomas 2.0 (not a bad thing) you would be replacing a really good pass rushing ILB with an intellectual Mike. If our pass rushing was more consistent and better I may like this move.
  14. For starter; he's a really good Gunner, may be a better special team player than Heyward-Bey. What they didn't mention was Patterson came from a run-heavy scheme, he doesn't get enough targets. Yet, he produced by the amount of targets. Here's my gimmick analysis of him: He's really good Gunner. He can be efficient, productive with less touches. He has that skillset you want in a split-out receiver. Way I see it, if Antonio Brown goes down, who replace him? Not JuJu, it'd mean we have to rip parts of the playbook and that doesn't struck me as a good plan you would like the playbook to stays the same and just increase the targets toward other players. Fichter struck me as the man who like versatile players and at this point I see Patterson having a better shot than Henderson.
  15. Pre-Training Camp Roster Prediction

    I'm seeing that you have 24, 24, and 3. That's 51 men. Not 53 men? Shouldn't it be either 25/25 or 24/26, vice versa?