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  1. Lions sign a wide receiver

    Just because I haven't been in a NFL locker room before doesn't mean that I don't understand team building and personnel development. If players always knew what to do then we wouldn't need coaches. That is far from the case and coaching is a very important aspect. A good coach is a teacher and a motivator. Same with a good veteran player. Whether they're the active type who stays after practice and shows a guy how to do certain things to improve their game or just leads by example and lets younger guys pick up on what he does it's all the same. Joe Flacco isn't going to help Drew Lock with his footwork or throwing motion but DL will watch what he does on a day-to-day basis as a starting NFL QB. If Joe comes to the facility for 6 am every day, watches a ton of tape, eats healthy, etc. this is a pattern of successful habits that the rookie can emulate and hopefully turn into on-field success when his turn is up. We just finished mini-camp. The FO has seen what those guys are able to offer right now. We still have training camp for them to prove themselves and earn a spot. I would rather take a veteran guy and know what I'm getting out of him instead of taking a flier on a young guy IF they haven't earned the spot. If they're on equal ground, I would probably lean towards the younger guy who is likely cheaper and has the potential to develop into more. The Lions have a losing history, which leads into a losing culture. They're trying to turn around the expectations in the building and in the city on what it means to be a Detroit Lion. Our current definition of success is to break .500 and make the wildcard. Matt Patricia's experience and expectations has been to make the playoffs with a 1st round bye and win Super Bowl's. There is a HUGE gap between those two mentalities. MP and BQ feel there is a framework and a formula they want to follow in order to get there - ball control offense, control the clock, limit mistakes, lean on defense and force turnovers, keep opposing offense off of the field. It's a work in progress and we'll see whether it works or not. Culture is a very important part of any organization, especially in a production based industry such as sports or business.
  2. Lions sign a wide receiver

    Mentoring and being mentored are extremely important for success in nearly every field. Pure talent/ability can only take someone so far. There are intricate nuances in any profession that are learned after years of experience and multiple mistakes. Being able to learn those lessons without the same amount of time and effort invested is huge. Getting up to speed as quickly as possible combined with talent = key to success. The mental part of the game can be as important as the physical part. There's a reason that a guy who is 5'10 and runs a 4.5 40 can be a top WR in the league when you'd assume a 6'5 guy should just dominate in every situation. There is such a disconnect on the information that we get as opposed to connected guys like Matt Miller of BR or Daniel Jeremiah in the media and then there's even more of a disconnect from what the scouts have on file. There are relationships from working with previous teams in the front office, agents, former teammates, high school coaches, teachers, principals, neighbours, college coaches, trainers, professors, etc, etc. They're doing in person interviews and psych evals. None of us have been in the Lions locker room and seen what it is like after a win or a loss. We haven't seen what it's like in a practice when they're sitting below 0.500 and out of a playoff spot. To DHLF's point, we don't know these guys and we truly don't know the pulse of the team. We see what happens on the field and what the media passes along. Kearse is a guy that can help and he is a guy that could also be cut in August.
  3. Lions sign a wide receiver

    Amendola is only on a 1 year deal. He's coming in as another former NE guy to add a piece in the WR room while also helping invoke the culture change they're bringing to the team. Patricia and Quinn are trying to incorporate a lot of the stuff they learned while in NE and bringing their own spin to it. A guy like Amendola understands what they're trying to accomplish and is an established vet that has been a part of championship teams. Kearse was a part of a championship team in Seattle. Knowing what goes into being a championship team - team chemistry, study habits, practice habits, etc. are all important pieces that can help translate into on field success. All of this off-field stuff only gets you so much room to be on a roster if you aren't contributing on the field. Teambuilding isn't a linear process. It's not an exact science, where you mix in this particular set of variables and get the same result each time. The Lions will probably wind up making 30 roster moves during the course of the season itself, let alone bringing in guys in the off-season to be a part of the 90 man group. If it was as simple as throwing a bunch of guys out there who can run a 4.3, things would be a lot easier. This is a lot of discussion over a veteran guy that is familiar with our scheme, at a position where we can use depth, who is trying to get his career back on track. There's Stafford playing with a broken back, new DL, etc. I know the off-season doesn't leave a lot to discuss but this definitely feels like we're spinning in circles.
  4. Trade: TE Michael Roberts to the Patriots

    I did see that. Seems odd we'd hear about it much later after they claimed him. Sucks for Roberts because he's going to have a tough time with rehabbing and finding a team over the next few months.
  5. Lions sign a wide receiver

    WR's and DB's are very confident (sometimes overly), tend to be vocal and showy. This works better in a group setting where every guy is trying to beat the other guy with the top guys challenging the others to try and beat him. They aren't asking for him to be the top WR. He's a veteran guy that knows the offense and provides some depth. We haven't seen what he has looked like in workouts before signing and how he's really looked in mini-camp. There is value in having a guy that knows how to operate in the offense and what it is like to be a NFL pro. If he can work his way up the depth chart and beat out some of the younger guys, then we should have a stronger WR group. Especially with a scheme change. This is a process and there is still a long way to go. We should all wait and see how this develops.
  6. Lions sign a wide receiver

    QB's are a bit of a different animal IMO. There are only 32 starting spots in the league. Most teams have 2-3 guys at the position - that's it. A WR room is going to have 5-6 without even factoring in PS. A QB is supposed to be a lot more internally driven where the competitive nature amongst a group helps push those guys to be better. We don't know what his career plans are after he hangs it up. If he wanted to get into coaching, this is definitely a good way to start.
  7. Lions Select TE T.J. Hockenson #8 Overall

    Solid post - thanks for sharing these thoughts. I do agree with you while I'm also trying to not drink the Kool-Aid. Every pundit expects us to be at the bottom of the division. This is a difficult group of teams. You can look at each team and see legitimate reasons on why they should win the division. You can also see the weaknesses that could expose them. GB - Brand new HC, new scheme, etc. and a rebuilding defense; MIN - Cousins has struggled and Cook has been injured. Bad QB play and no run game is going to hurt; CHI - Defense had a ton of takeaways, nearly impossible to repeat. Offense heavily relied on the D to win games. The Lions finished the season with a top 10 defense, have improved the rushing attack and have a QB that has thrown for 5,000 + yards and a knack for coming back to win the game. You have to win games to get respect but it is frustrating when the media spends 5 seconds on the Lions while gushing over the rest of the teams. This isn't the AFC East where the Patriots are a lock and you hope that the Jets, Dolphins or Bills can wind up with a wildcard berth.
  8. Trade: TE Michael Roberts to the Patriots

    I think I've heard that teams have different standards but I don't understand how he fails a physical with the Pats but can then be signed by GB.
  9. Lions sign a wide receiver

    That's a fair assessment, I don't. We also don't know that he isn't that kind of guy. If you are a veteran player, you know the scheme and you're confident in your abilities then I would think it would lead to you being more open to helping younger guys and trying to generate wins for the team. I'm not saying he's going to take guys aside and help them out with their route running or whatever. Just terminology and concepts as they're rolling out the Bevell offense. That's what a team guy would do in my books and that's what I am hoping for as a fan. However, you could be 100% right. We'll see what the media reports say over the next few weeks.
  10. Greedy also has a sleight frame and could put on some weight. Maybe he was "saving himself for the pros". The Lions weren't the only team to skip over him in the 1st round and a few others in the 2nd. He could wind up being a pro bowler and prove everyone wrong. He could also wind up being a bust. We'll see how it all shakes out.
  11. There are always a half dozen first round trades - teams trading up, teams trading down, teams trading for players (like the Browns and OBJ), teams trading out of the 1st for future picks. It all depends on the team - where they're at competition wise and how they build their rosters.
  12. It all depends on your valuations of the players in the draft class and whether you want to bank on that or not. Do you draft Greedy Williams in the 1st round hoping that he becomes Jalen Ramsey? Or is it better to offer draft capital to the Jaguars to trade for the proven commodity that is Jalen Ramsey? If it's a weak position group class and you're in a short window you might be more inclined to make the trade. If it's a deep class (like we saw with the DL this year), teams are more inclined to wait on some of the big FA's/trade pieces.
  13. Greedy might be a very good player in the NFL but he didn't fit what the Lions want in the CB position, especially as a willing tackler. So I don't think Greedy makes the difference. Even if we took a guy somewhat high, it's about guaranteed money and security for Slay. So I would say that those two positions are independent and he'd still likely hold out either way.
  14. Lions sign a wide receiver

    Everybody is learning the offensive scheme. They are sitting there in the position group room watching film and breaking down the plays, responsibilities, signals, etc. Kearse wasn't brought on to be a coach, otherwise they'd have just hired him as the WR coach. He is here because of the scheme familiarity and he's hoping it will help him career wise (as opposed to his time in NY). Guys are going to be asking him questions and he's going to help to whatever extent doesn't take away from his own play. Kearse has to produce in order to stick around but the team wins when everybody is on the same page.
  15. Based on talent and need, I'd go with this for the Lions: CHICAGO - Khalil Mack, Eddie Jackson, Roquan Smith GREEN BAY - Davante Adams, Jaire Alexander, Kenny Clark MINNESOTA - Stefon Diggs, Harrison Smith, Garrett Bradbury Everyone in the league would take Mack, we can use some help in the secondary (especially takeaways) and I just like Roquan as a player, despite not being a scheme fit Adams is one of the top WR's in the league and would be a fantastic player, can use a guy opposite of Slay as our CB2, can use a guy on the DL Diggs would be a great compliment to the existing WR's and Adams, Smith is one of the top S's in the game and a leader on defense, Bradbury is a rookie but we can use some help on the offensive line Even if we could include QB's, the only difference I would make in this list is swapping our Kenny Clark for Aaron Rodgers.
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