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  1. Packers Training Camp 2019

    Lord no, it's ESB, the perfect counterbalance to MVS.
  2. This Aint Packers Talk v69

    I went on a holiday to Ireland and found they sometimes split shops in half. The most outrageous example of that, was a shop split into half bar, half lawnmower repair shop. I just don't know how anything can top that.
  3. 53 Man Roster Predictions 2019 Edition

    I'd suggest the opposite is true. If Taylor beats out Jenkins for now (Jenkins is a rookie after all), then Jenkins is unlikely to throw his toys out of the pram. Then you have a top quality backup who, in various combinations with the starters, has every position but LT covered. I expect Jenkins to start before too long, but this scenario might play out more comfortably than if Jenkins beats out Taylor who then has to go from starter to backup. For this reason I believe the Packers are happier if Taylor wins the battle (for now).
  4. 2019 WR Corps

    If Davis comes back soon i think he make the 53 because, as Chili said, his ST usefulness is high and that is what you want from back-end receivers (and his good showing as a WR this year helps cement that). However, the longer Davis is out, the better things are for Shepherd, who is younger, is showing very nicely as a WR, and while I don't know if he can be a gunner, he certainly has return ability and experience. while Davis is in no way old (4th year) Shepherd's youth might feature as a tie-breaker. You've heard the old chestnut, the best ability is availability. It would be difficult to cut Kumerow with what he has shown in camp, because if you cut a guy who played that well, what is the point of a training camp, it would send a bad message to others. The only way Moore makes the team is if the Packers put potential way ahead of production. I don't see Moore making the squad because so many other receivers have shone, but the coaches may be so reluctant to cut a 4th round pick in their second year, they ignore what has been shown on the field. If Davis makes the team, then Shepherd should be a lock for the PS. Moore might stick on the PS, though I feel it is likely he is be taken by another team as a roll of the dice. Lazard, who has also looked good, is a classic PS guy, imo. For me they rank as follows. 1.Adams (a true no.1 guy)/2.MVS (part of his high ranking is potential)/3.Allison (slot guy)/4.Kumerow (played himself onto the team, could easily be ranked 5 or 6)/5. ESB (ranked mostly on potential, hasn't had a bad camp but hasn't stood out)) 6.Davis (if fit soon)/7.Shepherd (rank him 6 if Davis isn't fit soon, could also replace Allison in the slot, if required )/8. Moore (purely on potential)/9. Lazard (looks like a good PS candidate). I think the Packers keep 6 this year, and in the order of priority mentioned above, unless injury thins the ranks, for example Davis (who is injured) might quickly be supplanted by Shepherd, or if Allison gets injured, Shepherd has another chance at making the roster as a slot receiver replacement (I don't know who would be the favoured slot guy, between ESB and Shepherd). Questions about the ranking ? A) Is Kumerow ahead of ESB ? I ranked him above ESB, I had to decide on good production versus reasonable production + youth, + high upside. You could also view his ranking relative to Davis, either way - Kumerow the better receiver, Davis the more valuable ST guy. B) Will Moore be claimed off the PS ? Who knows............I'm guessing yes he will be. C) How long before Shepherd ranks above Davis ? My guess is that if Davis doesn't play next week, and Shepherd plays well, then he suppplants him. D) Does Allison deserve to be locked into the no.3 spot ? I need some evaluators better than I am, to answer that. I recall Andy Herman putting him as a solid 3rd, a few days back. E) Does Lazard's elite height (6'5") and solid showing in camp mean he should be on the 53. Too many good guys above him and many of them almost as tall, so it's the PS for him. F) Potential..........it's a thing, it has value, but it isn't the only thing and doesn't outweigh everything else.
  5. Green Bay @ Ravens "Still Gotta Shot Bowl"

    My guesses in green
  6. This Is Rival Talk v1.0

    Who has hacked Outpost31's account ?
  7. Matt LaFleur

    Never been to Lambeau (I live in England) so I've no idea. Someone here will know though.
  8. Matt LaFleur

    4th quarter might get rowdy...............overtime might be notable for the massed sound of snoring.
  9. Players that interest me in 2020 draft. Leisher

    At this too-early stage, within the first four picks of the next draft, three positions I'm looking at are TE (guessing Graham and Lewis are gone), OT (Bulaga's replacement), ILB (pretty thin here). I thought about safety, and they could use another decent guy, but it may well get addressed just outside the first four picks. I also believe Crosby's contract is up, they may well just let him play it out, and get in a new guy for 2020 (maybe a 6th or 7th rounder). I'm guessing another QB from round 5 onwards, as well. Of course things can change when you look at the talent pool left at each pick, you don't pass on a bargain just to satisfy your shopping list, instead you tweak your draft to encompass your bargain buy.
  10. Green Bay Packers 2019 Offensive Line

    Back to the O line. deBeer, Madison, Pankey, Nijman, Coyle, Patrick. 1) There is a good chance only one of these is on the final 53. Who do you think it will be ? 2) Who is the most likely candidate for the PS ? 3) If Light was included in the bunch above, would he be taken ahead of them all ?
  11. Packers Training Camp 2019

    I'd give you a like if I didn't think it would set people off again. I plead guilty to having already contributed more than my share to this topic.
  12. 2019 WR Corps

    Exaggerate a view opposite to your own to such a degree (see "extreme level of optimism about damn near every player") so as to make your view seem sensible, by comparison. Lesson one in "How to survive and thrive, posting on an internet board". Once you know the technique, you'll see it everywhere. I should've syndicated it..
  13. Green Bay @ Ravens "Still Gotta Shot Bowl"

    I like rhythms (longest word without a vowel) and rotavator (longest word that spells forwards and backwards). What can I say, I'm a geek sometimes. There is also abstemious (all vowels in order aeiou) and contrawise, how about "Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs" (contains all letters of the alphabet).
  14. Random Packer News & Notes

    The sheer number of HOF guys back then IS pretty shocking
  15. Random Packer News & Notes

    Post retirement age my memory isn't good enough to name more than a handful of obvious guys. I'm tempted to leave that task to others. PS I had Brett and Reggie. I guessed at Butler, but I don't think he is there. I'm sure Clifton isn't, and I rated him highly. Ron Wolf doesn't count, as you said offense and defense.