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  1. Aaron Rodgers Appreciation Thread 4.0

    Did AR12 shout "Hard count!" today while trying to get the defense to jump? I swear I heard that. Please tell me I didn't imagine that. That's GOAT trolling if he did. *David Dochovny "I want to believe" meme*
  2. Packers fire Winston Moss

  3. Packers fire Winston Moss

    My grandmother had a saying she liked to use that I feel is quite apropos..... Good riddance to bad rubbish.
  4. Random Packer News & Notes

    LOL. I was going to add him but as you pointed out he didn't really go up against him and as Raymond pointed out nobody knows who he is.
  5. Random Packer News & Notes

    Adams has definitely faced a who's who of cornerbacks so far this year and no one has come close to stopping him. Rhodes (2) Norman White Slay Sherman Peters, Talib Gilmore
  6. Week 13 Arizona @ Green Bay GDT "I"

    I'm hoping he's not the Nick Perry of CBs. Guys I really liked and play really well when healthy (you can throw Cobb in there as well) but just aren't ever healthy.
  7. This Is Rival Talk v1.0

    That's not a thing. Literally the only person you could say is overly critical of Rodgers is the guy here arguing defense wins championships. Nobody, and I mean that literally, is or has put that squarely on Rodgers shoulders.
  8. This Is Rival Talk v1.0

    We definitely had this discussion recently in a thread about top tier quarterbacks. IIRC.... Only two teams won the Superbowl with a defense that either wasn't top ten in PPG defense during the regular season or whose PPG in the playoffs wouldn't have ranked them in the top 10 for the regular season. The Saints were one (their playoff PPG would have ranked 11th in the regular season) and the Flacco led Ravens were the other. In 50+ years one "bad" defense has won a Superbowl. Like 98% of Superbowl champions have had a "top ten defense". It's nearly impossible to ignore that IMO.
  9. Extend Mike McCarthy?

    Um... about 10+. We'll agree to disagree. Gurley, Hunt, Barkley, McCaffery, Elliott, Gordon, Johnson, and Bell immediately come to mind. I'd probably throw Coleman and Mixon in the mix as well. Gore, Shady, and Miller pop into my head as guys in the league who learly aren't anymore but were.
  10. Extend Mike McCarthy?

    I'm 100% NOT arguing Ty is as good of a back as Kamara. Sorry if that's the way it's coming off. I just feel that (based on admittedly a small sample size of watching Kamara) that the way he is being used is more "special" than the actual player. I feel like there are easily about 10+ guys that could/would be great in that same role. I could be wrong. It happens.
  11. Extend Mike McCarthy?

    I'd argue its the system and his usage. Kamara is averaging 4.4 ypc this year. Ty is 4.8 for his career. Heck, Ingram is averaging more ypc and ypt than Kamara this year. He's just not being used as much. This reminds me of an argument I've had on here about two of our TEs. Graham and Finley. Statistically at one point of their careers they were nearly identical in catch%, ypt, and TD% yet Graham was an allpro and Finley was a whipping boy. IMO Sean Payton is an expert at doing something "pretty good" enough that it works "special".
  12. Extend Mike McCarthy?

    FWIW.... Kamara this year.... 77.5 catch % 6.7 ypt Ty for his career 75.3 catch % 6.4 ypt Those aren't significantly different. It appears Kamara statistically isnt a much better receiver per target he just gets targeted significantly more.
  13. All Things Wrestling Thread

    From a name standpoint sure but that match was scary bad. Someone could have got seriously hurt. I legit feel bad for watching it.
  14. Trade Deadline Thread

    Tough to say without knowing what that locker room is like. I've definitely seen some "cancer" from both great people in shi++y situations and shi++y people in great situations before. I think we all have. A bit of fire can either stoke the flames to a perfect temperature or burn the entire place to the ground.
  15. Fun Bye Week Game

    Bring it up every time but that's absolutely a former(?) poster on here.