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  1. Yeah, if I just completely ignore the round they came in and the players we could have had instead, I would be happy getting Runyon, Dillon, and Deguara. Can we just pretend they were all late round steals and move on?
  2. This is officially the worst Packers draft I've ever seen.
  3. Are you ok with spending our top 4 picks on a back-up QB, RB, and HB? More importantly, are you ok with LF re-making this team in the image of the Tenesee Titans?
  4. Who is the best kicker in this draft, because Gute is 'bout to take him in rd 3.
  5. Last night I was pissed. Today? Meh. I like this pick more than Gary. I think we blew a premium pick on Gary. (No, I won't entertain any discussion on that - this is about the Love pick.) But this was the 26th pick. Teams blow picks on QB's all the time. This could end up a bust. But you have to try. It is the most important position in football, and we have a 36 year old QB showing signs of decline. If he doesn't adjust his game and get the ball out of his hand on time, we could see a really sharp decline at that. We didn't have a viable option behind him. As for Love? I think we hope for Mahommes and probably get Kaepernick. I dont like the fact that he really only reads one side of the field. He needs at least 2 years. I do like the prospect of a little read option, though. We need a home run in the second round like we got last year. And then again in the third. If Gute can still find 2 starting level players tonight, we'll be fine.
  6. That was my point. We're picking in that second tier at #30 where we haven't had great success in the last 10 years. I understand that AJE is falling because of his combine, but if he's at 30 he's one of the safer picks that plays at a position that you cant have enough of.
  7. Oh, the old "he hasn't done it in the NFL" argument. Ok. How many snaps per year does Preston Smith drop into coverage? Not something that Pettine does a lot of. And, to be honest I dont think AJE would struggle to replicate what Smith already does. I'm not assuming that Epenesa will be an immediate stud. But his college production, plus his style of play and motor simply translate to the NFL. But you dont have to take my word for it. https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2020/3/10/21168037/aj-epenesa-nfl-draft-2020-iowa-projection-pros-cons-film-highlights This is a more than fair evaluation from a former NFL DE. In his first year with the Packers, I could see AJE filling in at EDGE for 300 snaps. Add in 200 more as a sub package rusher, and he'd be close to 500 snaps. Fackrell played 415 last year, but he was a liability on the edge on running downs, so his snap count was much more limited. I know it isnt a dire need, and I'm not pounding the table for the guy. I just think it would be a prudent choice that would solidify quality and depth of our pass rush and edge defense. It would be a safe pick and you could really see it pay off exponentially in 2 to 3 years. Edit: I'll add this: AJE is the type of edge defender that doesn't win by flying around the outside of an OT and losing containment. He specializes in going through his man and using superior hands to defeat blocks. Ferentz doesn't let guys on the field unless they can do their job of containment first. Last year he drew double and triple teams consistently and his numbers suffered as a result. He still had 11.5 sacks and 4 forced fumbles.
  8. One franchise cornerstone from that many first round picks? Sorry, the end of the first is a crapshoot and that list proves it. I'll take the 8 to 10 sack workhorse any day of the week at #30. I'm not saying AJE is one of the 20 to 25 best. But I'd take him over a projection. Not sure why we're labeling him a tweener either? Just because he potentially could add 10 lbs to play 5T doesn't mean he should. He's a 4-3 end. Is there stuff that Preston Smith can do that he can't? I could care less if we have 2 damn good starters at that position. Are we betting on both Smith's playing 870 snaps again next year without an injury? We've seen way too many years of a feckless defense because we just didn't have the horses for a decent pass rush. Now we have 2 good ones and we're done? Why? Why not get a third guy that can move around the LOS? We spent a premium pick on a lesser player last year and he contributed a whopping 240 snaps. He didn't have near the production or the motor that AJE has.
  9. You know damn well that there are no more than 20 to 25 players graded out as first round players any given year. We're picking from a deep pool of 2nd round graded players. Yeah, he'll start out as a rotational player. He wont be there forever. We're one injury away. Draft for value, no? If you look at the lack of talent that we've drafted in the 2nd half of the first round lately, it is mind numbing. King, Randall, HHCD, Datone Jones, Sherrod... Kenny Clark is the only glaring star that we've gotten in a long time in that range.
  10. It's going to look a lot like last year. Wish we would have picked up Pennel or another one of the 10 UFA's that were better than anybody but Clark. I'd hope that Keke can step up a bit, but I think we're still going to see a lot of Lowry, Lancaster and Adam's next to Clark. I dont think this pushes Gary out by any means. I think AJE would take a lot of interior rushing snaps. But I sure as hell like him a lot better than Gary on the Edge whenever a Smith needs a breather. I personally think waiting for Gary to do anything special is going to be a lot like waiting for Mike Neal to replace Cullen Jenkens. I hope that there is value as good as AJE at #30 at a position of greater need. I do. If not, I'm taking a hell of a player that shouldn't be at the end of the first and not looking back. AJE has extremely low bust potential.
  11. No, that isn't an early down front 4. That is a pass rushing front four. Still need something out of our run stoppers.
  12. I can't say I've been paying attention to much that is draft related outside of a few Twitter breakdowns. I'd prefer that we get some big needs taken care of in the first 3 rounds. WR, OT are the top of that list. DL would be an easy 3rd choice. With that being said, if the right OT isnt there at 30 (or in range to trade up to the mid 20's), I'd take AJE and hope for a WR to fall to the 2nd round. The value is there. You can move him around, but I dont know about asking him to add any weight. Last year the Smith duo played way too many snaps. They were on the ground writhing in pain way too many times. I dont feel at all comfortable with Gary as the primary backup. Not a believer there. AJE provides the depth we need as a pass rusher, and would allow Pettine to get all 4 of the on the field in pass rushing situations with his ability to rush inside. I think if you ask him to play 5T, you're asking for a 3 year project before you see any sort of positive results. But if you bring him in to the rotation and let him eat, you wont be disappointed with an 8 to 10 sack guy who can hold the edge in the running game at #30. 2 years ago he didn't even start and still found a way to make a huge impact and got to 10 sacks. The combination of Z and AJE rushing up the middle vs. any group of guards in the league should strike some legit fear in opponents. And hell, if he does turn into a JJ Watt type of player, then you've got the steal of the draft. If not, you still have the makings of a front 4 (talent + depth) that made the Eagles so good a few years ago.
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