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  1. Phillip Rivers Overrated?

    He doesn't know how to win
  2. So at what point do people give Tomlin credit for keeping this **** show under wraps as long as he did?
  3. Most Overrated QB's of all Time

    Sorry this is sheer stupidity. The Patriots have a winning record against most teams. The two best teams the last 20 years in your conference are the Steelers and Ravens. The Patriots have an overwhelming win percentage against them. Realistically the Patriots would just go in the AFC North and give everyone else an extra two losses on average and knock them out of the playoffs or force them to wildcard. Still winning the division and still having the same out of division record. Realistically they they’d probably prevent a team like the Steelers who they beat in the AFCCG on route to 3 rings from even getting that far, making their path easier. AFC West is the only division that really concerns me and that’s only because of Denver. The Chargers have been great but they never beat a Brady led squad.
  4. Good. I’m happy they make you miserable. It’s pathetic that you care about another team this much
  5. Mandela effect in the NFL

    I have a good one. Everyone blames the Jesse James non catch for the Steelers losing that game. They were down by 3 in the red zone and Ben’s interception was what really ended it
  6. Mandela effect in the NFL

    Tapes were shown to reporters btw
  7. Then why did you make the thread? To complain about the Patriots some more. Nobody on this site makes more topics about a team they aren’t a fan of than you. Get a new gimmick
  8. Which Ex-Player Talking Head is the Biggest Phony

    Yeah the 4x Super Bowl winner and league MVP is a phony
  9. I'm saying you can't determine any level of success in a totally different system based off success in another one.
  10. It’s not a silly thing to say. You’re using the outcome of one scenario to justify a similar outcome in a different scenario. Peyton player in a very specific and very different offense his whole career. By playing in an offense that suited his strengths that he developed in and mastered over the course of his entire career he became one of the greatest QB’s in NFL history. That doesn’t mean you can simply change the formula and say “well Peyton’s still part of it” so he’ll yield the same return no matter what. No a lot of great QB’s were far better in one system compared to another when we’ve had examples of them being in more than one. I also think this outcome based analysis only gets used one way. Nobody ever says, “oh Brady’s the most successful QB ever, toss him him Manning’s system and he’ll still win 6 Super Bowls”
  11. I think it’s logical leap because they’ve both never been in it and have been in offenses that schematically were not as dynamic or adaptable in general. Peyton particularly. His offense was very simple and the skill was the deception they pulled at the line. Brady also does a lot more post snap compared to Peyton doing the bulk pre snap. It’s so different that it’s silly to say they’d succeed in other systems. Even from a fundamental level they’d be running it different. It’s like saying “well he’s s great skier so he probably is a great snowboarder because they are so similar,”. Like kinda but the fundamental approaches are different.
  12. People are going to crap on that statement but they’re is truth to it. Pats run a modified EP system which is one of the more difficult systems to run if not the most difficult and places a high level on the QB and WR’s intelligence to be in sync because of the different concept options on each play. So basically Brady has to read the defense and also know how each of his receivers will read the defense based on their assignments. Beyond that it’s also one of the most versatile and able to adapt and change schemes and offensive emphasis on. Which they’ve relied on Brady to adapt into many times. Peyton Manning basically played in the same style offense his whole career. It wasn’t even really that elaborate. Most defensive players will tell you it’s the same 5 or so plays disguised at the line and misdirection. Otherwise it’s a pretty standard offense. It also mandates great WR’s because it’s basically all timing based. Peyton runs it like a well oiled machine, BUT it’s nowhere near as complicated. Rodgers is a worse example to compare it to because Rodgers relies more on his physicality and actively bails out of a lot of plays and cuts himself off from anywhere from 25 to 33 percent of the field when he does it. You could never run Brady’s offense if that is your go to inclination. It relies on complete and total mastery of post snap reads and in pocket progressions and description. So yeah he does have point. To bad most people’s aptitude of QB play boils down to “wow nice throw”
  13. Can we ban a certain someone from making Patriots threads?
  14. The Official Boxing Thread IV - Golovkin vs Alvarez

    Honestly I'd worry more about Wilder getting past Ortiz. Ortiz did give him trouble last time and could be a serious problem. If Ortiz wins that pretty much blows up the heavyweight situation. Probably makes it easier for fights to happen though. But yeah I think the big fight has to be Wilder vs Ortiz right now and then winner can go after whoever wins in Johsua vs Ruiz 2. I just really don't want the sanctioning bodies to start stripping people.
  15. He’s just pissy over the Patriots.