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  1. Who's your 2019 Breakout Player

    There are definitely a lot of contenders- MVS/EQ- between 1 of these two, I'd hope one can push 800 yards. I have my doubts but it is really necessary. They have talent. Oren Burks- Super talent who looked like a chicken with his head cut off in college. He was kind of robbed of his rookie year by injury. King/M Adams- really the same story as Burks but 2 years of injuries. They are both at the prove it or gone in a year or 2 stage Jackson- easy one, year 1 rookie growing pains. Maybe he'll pick it up Someone at guard (Turner/Jenkins)
  2. rank the roster: 2019 edition (#18) (complete)

    Considering people have ranked 5 players from last year ahead of him, I'd say it is saying something. King shouldn't have been rated above him (he's an injury away from getting replaced). Daniels after last year shouldn't have been. I don't think 600-700 snaps for Fackrell next year is out of the question (Reggie Gilbert got almost 500 last year...). Gary is the ultimate project and won't be rushed into the lineup based on draft stock. We are going to be playing a lot of strange exotic fronts (Zsmith/Gary will play end more than you thing) and Fackrell is actually pretty fluid. He'll get some chances to rush inside and play more in space when we do like 2-4/3-3 looks
  3. 2020 NFL Draft Discussion

    If rings are the criteria for judging players, outside all time qbs, there really isn’t a correlation to championships anywhere. Take a look at sack leaders. It is pretty thin http://www.espn.com/nfl/history/leaders/_/stat/sacks I think in general skill players get **** on by people on this board. Guys like Moss maybe didn’t get a ring, but made a huge impact on the game (not a coincidence he was on 2 of the greatest team offenses ever).
  4. rank the roster: 2019 edition (#18) (complete)

    Fackrell is still getting no love even though he was potentially our 3rd best defender last year (behind Clark and Jaire). Even with both the Smiths he still probably plays 70% of the snaps (I kind of expect 3 of the smiths/Gary/Fack on the field at any given time, similar to when we had Perry/Pep/clay)
  5. rank the roster: 2019 edition (#16) (complete)

    I voted Fackrell. Outside Clark and Jaire, he was arguably our 3rd best defender last year (maybe Blake was better, definitely not Daniels or King). Even with the Smiths, I expect him to get a lot of snaps (Z being an elephant and Kyler more in a traditional olb role). I get voting for Savage, Gary, Turner, Taylor, Jenkins. I’d have a hard time putting a wr not named Adams above like 20
  6. 2019 Draft Thoughts

    Off the field issues, also, watching his tape, CGJ was pretty clearly a second/third round talent if he was clean. He didn't have the burst in space of Savage by any means (or pop). He was just kind of solid. 4.5 speed with a 36 inch vert isn't anything special either.
  7. 2019 Draft Thoughts

    It’s been a few days, so after digesting; -The Gary pick still hasn’t grown on me. I get it (freak upside), just I need to see production before I like it. -Savage has grown on me a lot after watching more of him. I see the range and aggressive nature the team saw. I didn’t see that in the rest of the class (mostly 4.5 guys). Hopefully he isn’t too small. -the rest of the class I had no problem with. I don’t want too drunk too much koolaide. History says if we get 2 starter, that’s a good draft (3 is a home run). I definitely see the potential in these guys. Dex and Jace probably get 20-30% of the snaps this year. KeKe will get 2 years to develop. Jenkins might start. The corner and Summers probably make the team as STers for a year or 2. Overall good class.
  8. 2020 Needs and Free Agent List

    In this situation, Linsely would be coming off injury, 29 at the start of 2020, and would save 8.5 against the cap. It probably won’t happen, but never say never. Either way, Linsely is probably gone in 21.(30, 3rd contract, iol typically play until 31-33 if they are good).
  9. 2020 Needs and Free Agent List

    I think Taylor is probably most likely to be the odd man out but we'll see. 5M non guaranteed is not a big burden. There are scenarios like -Linsely getting hurt and Jenkins running with the C job (would save us 8.5) -Turner just being meh and cut (not out of the realm of possibility, he's been essentially essentially a lower mid level guard). His deal doesn't hand tie us
  10. 1[21]: Darnell Savage [S; Maryland]

    I feel like the comp for him is Honey Badger (just more athletic, probably a little less aggressive, hopefully healthier). Slot corner/S that will be used all over.
  11. 2020 Needs and Free Agent List

    Does the OP include considerations for cap growth? There probably another 10-12m in cap space there, plus 8 for Grahm (unless he tears it up). It will be interesting to see what we do. My opinion- -Clark getting 15-18 a year is a no brainer. - I like Blake but not sure what I’d pay for him. He’d probably get 12 a year on the market -They have decisions to make on the interior. One maybe 2 of Turner, Linsely, or Taylor is gone. Probably Taylor but with how deals are structured who knows.
  12. The 2019 Minnesota Vikings Draft Class

    2 things; 1. You can always find Sharpe, D Walker, and like Trey Burton are really the only examples of guys his size having success at his position. That doesn’t mean he won’t, as Smith offers some nice playmaking ability, but it is fair to acknowledge there is a limitation there. 2. He pretty much has to be used as a pure move TE since he doesn’t really have a frame to put on size and play inline. I still see the squad needing another playable TE in 2020 after Rudolph leaves.
  13. 2019 Free Agent Discussion

    We really do need a stop gap ILB that can take blocks.
  14. The 2019 Minnesota Vikings Draft Class

    I liked what the Vikes did. 1 starting IOL and another that should be in the mix. They got a rb who will probably get 10 touches a game and compliments Cook. The 3rd round trades to several late round fliers was really good too, I will say I’m don’t like the Smith Jr pick. At 6’2” he’s probably a h back in the nfl, which a second seems high for.
  15. 2019 Draft Thoughts

    Time will tell. I feel good about the class. Really outside of Gary, I felt good about the picks. For 2019 the only thing we absolutely needed was a S that could play which justifies the trade up. I feel good that we got ol depth, a real development te with our top capital. Dexter has a shot too of getting run in the backfield.