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FWIW, this is a total pipe dream, IMO. Wren is a Rod Marinelli Build-a-Bear. He has a lot of Fletcher Cox to him. Similar to Wren, Cox was floating in the 2nd round range before the combine as well. I expect Wren will be long gone by the time we pick. But a guy can dream.

Haha, it would be a very Dallas Cowboys thing to do to draft 2nd round TEs throughout Witten's prime, only to pass on a 2nd round TE because Witten came out of retirement.

A few thoughts: 1) The Cowboys are many things, but you cannot say following them is boring! 2) I'm iffy on this from a football standpoint. 3) I don't care about #2. I'd be happy to have Jason Witten around until he needs a walker, and probably even after that.

Sign Tank Sign Earl Sign Eifert Draft Renell Wren Draft Anthony Isabella LFG

This was John Schneider's comment after he traded for Percy Harvin.

I concur, if Harry falls far enough (I doubt it)

I don't fundamentally disagree with anything here. But I don't think I'm *trading up* for redshirt.

I addressed this very clearly. You sign a guy to be your backup (like a Joe Looney) to insure against risk. Besides starting 10 games as a rookie being a top-50 pick? This is not some massive leap to say that the Cowboys are relying on him to hold down a starting spot on the offensive line. This is NOTHING like LVE and Jaylon. Sean Lee was getting older, deteriorating in performance, and had a big cap hit. Plus, you have a linebacker rotation where backups will actually get snaps. Backup guards do not play unless there is an injury. We did not draft LVE into a situation where all of our starting linebackers had 3 years left on their contracts and a clear stranglehold on the starting spots. No, it is not. We do draft guys to replace large (or soon to be large) contracts at a more affordable price. In this sense, a plan to replace La'El Collins has more merit to it. But drafting a guard and keeping Connor Williams at guard is a dumb idea.

I asked you what your plan was. You said as a backup guard. Now your position is to move Williams to tackle? I'm open to ideas that are well thought out and articulated. But no one has made an argument for a guard that doesn't come with a ton of qualifiers and what-ifs.

Well when they drafted Williams at #50 they certainly didn't believe that, and it's hard to imagine they've changed their minds at this point.

Not opposed to trading up for an impact player, I'm just not doing it for someone who needs a redshirt year (Simmons). A falling wide receiver or tight end, on the other hand...

Using this logic, you would be able to justify a second round pick at guard every year into eternity, because "we can't depend on the 2nd round guard we just drafted last year". The plan at guard is to have Martin and Williams start for at least the next 3 seasons. You fill in backups with low priced free agents or late round draft picks. Not with a pick you could otherwise use on a player who could potentially take north of 3000 snaps on their rookie deals.

I get that it's a 3rd rounder, but you still hope those guys can develop into starters sooner than later (like Maliek Collins and Michael Gallup). Drafting a 3rd round guard is drafting a guy you hope will be a career backup. Fill that role with the Joe Looney's of the world, and draft a guy who you know can give you meaningful snaps. EDIT: I do agree in that I am not keen on a trade back plan.

Just saw on Twitter that ET and Collins have the same agent. Interesting dynamic, but probably makes the already unlikely scenario of us signing Collins even more unlikely.

You can't do that for a red shirt.