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  1. 2020 College Prospects

    Young Okudah Wirfs Jeudy Lamb Wills (added him to your list) Thomas Simmons Brown Kinlaw Ruggs This is my Tier 1 prior to the combine and FA. We would need 4 other players to go before our pick to be able to get one of them.
  2. Team Building the FUTURE is now!

    Unfortunately this is turning out to be a poor year to need a corner. Best fit in FA is probably James Bradberry but I can’t imagine Carolina wouldn’t at least tag him. Past him is Byron Jones who will probably get the biggest pay day. Logan Ryan is probably #3 but is best as a slot guy which should be covered by Callahan. Most realistic option is maybe Eli Apple who failed out of NY but played pretty well for the saints this year. Then we tell into a lot of failed guys like Trae Waynes and Kendall Fuller. In the draft Okudah is the only bonafide guy. I’m not a fan of too many after him and think they’ll be over drafted, like Fulton, Terrell, Hall, Diggs. Only other corner that is intruguing as a potential starter is maybe Jeff gladney with a trade down from 15. On the plus side, I think Fangio showed his scheme can hold up decently without great corners and we have some developmental pieces that are intriguing. We might have to tread water at corner this year and hope next year gives us a better opportunity at a top guy, or that a developmental guy pops.
  3. Grizmo's Mock Offseason V1

    Before the offseason begins, I wanted to put out my initial thoughts on what my preference would be for how to approach this team. Cuts: Joe Flacco: Just no. Save ~10mil Ron Leary: Played better than given credit for but is paid too much. Save ~8.5mil Highlighted FA's: Justin Simmons: No doubt he stays. I think a long term deal gets done and the tag isn't needed. Stay Chris Harris Jr: Unfortunately his play outside of the slot wasn't up to his stellar par and I don't see our CB situation getting much better to allow him to move back to his more dominate position. Both of us choose to move on, Harris for fit, us for the money. FA Loss Derek Wolfe / Shelby Harris: To be honest, this is a toss up. I do think we'll only keep one but which one will most likely come to who is willing to sign a cheaper contact. Wolfe is more of the heart of the team that I would like to continue to see but he will be 30 and has had trouble staying on the field for an entire season. Shelby is a bit more talented at this point in their careers but doesn't have the sway in the locker room the way Wolfe does. Whoever stays, I don't see the contact being more than 3 years 18 million. Stay / FA Loss Connor McGovern. He played pretty well, shouldn't break the bank and will give us flexibility in the draft whether he plays center or his more natural RG. Stay 3 year 27mil Will Parks: I love the dude and think he's even better than how he played this year but paying role players is how you get in trouble with the cap. I wish we could keep him at a million a year, but he deserves more as well as the opportunity to play a bit more. FA Loss Jeremiah Attaochu: He stepped up his play when Chubb went down and at 27 still has stuff left in the tank to be a very good 3rd edge rusher for us. Stay 2 years 5 mil Adam Gotsis: Played better in a one gap scheme. Not a fit for us as evidenced by being a healthy scratch this year. FA Loss Highlight FA Signing: I expect us to go all in this offseason with few, yet big ticketed players; and we should in order to take advantage of our youth and the cheap contracts they're on. Chris Jones (DL): Our D-line was atrocious. Ok maybe not atrocious but definitely was not good enough. We lack a true difference maker that can make an impact both as a run defender and as a pass rusher throughout the downs. Jones is only 26 and often times it takes D-lineman till their second contact to really come into their own. Jones is already a great player and I would be excited to see how much better he becomes through his prime on our team. 19mil/yr Other names to keep an eye out for (Michael Pierce NT, DJ Reader NT) Draft: Initial Draft Picks (9): 1.15 2.46 3.77 3.83 3.96 4.108 4.128 6.161 7.214 1.15 Henry Ruggs III (WR Alabama) I'm not going to lie. I used to be very hesitant on taking a WR in the first two rounds this year. The depth of WRs this draft is insane and next years looks to be just as good. My thought process was let other teams stack up this year and lets take advantage in the middle rounds and next year. Forget that. Ruggs is absolutely worth being the third WR taken in the top 15. He is incredibly fast, but similar to Tyreek Hill in that he can make contested catches and is a good route runner (not just a run deep speed threat). Sutton, Ruggs and Fant would be an insane weapon core for Lock for the next 4-5 years. Trade (DEN 2.46 + DEN 3.77 for TEN 1.31) Why would Ten trade? They are tied for the least amount of selections in this years draft with KC, and NO with 5. With quite a few important FA (Logan Ryan, Dereck Henry, Tannehill) they could use more ammo to stock up. Why are we trading up? Offensive line need is through the roof in the league and early 2nd round is where IOL players go. Getting into the first also gives us the 5th year option. 1.31 Tyler Biadasz (C Wisconson) Biadasz is one of my favorite players in this years draft. He is a 3 time captain of a Wisconsin team known for churning great offensive lineman. His play dipped a bit this year and along with the depth of this draft, might be why he would be available this late. He has consistently been a top 3 centers in college football each year he has started. He is battle tested and durable as they come, having started 41 consecutive games. I was hesitant to see the fit as he is strong as a bull but less nimble as necessary for an outside zone run scheme, but having moved to Shurmer's Power Spread attack the average mobility is just fine. The fit is perfect given Elway's MO for high character players. Risner-Biadasz-McGovern will help Lock out tremendously to make sure he continues to develop positive habits of stepping up in the pocket they create and not throw off his back foot. 3.83 Antoine Winfield Jr (DB Minnesota) It wouldn't surprise me to see Winfield Jr rise once the draft process really ramps up. He is a bit of a tweener between FS and slot corner but his ball skills, and fantastic instincts always puts him around the ball. He isn't overly physical but is still willing to put his hat in there. Again, i'll be surprised if he doesn't go late 2nd round but in this mock draft i'll be hopeful he's here for us. 3.96 Jordan Elliott (DL Missouri) Very strong and aware run defender who is able to double gap and win consistently. Needs work in pass rush but tools are there to work with and hopefully with some coaching he can elevate that part of his game. He has played all along the line and consistently takes on double teams which seems to fit our style of line play. 4.108 Reggie Robinson II (CB Tulsa) Robinson is incredibly sticky in coverage and has good size at 6'1 197lbs. There isn't a whole lot of tape on him but started 22 games in his career 33 appearances. 4.128 Braden Mann (P Texas A&M) I've never been a fan of Wadman and I'm ready for a punter who can finally take advantage of our altitude. Mann is a Ray Guy award winner and broke the record for average yards per punt with at least 50 punts (51 yards avg!) in 2018 and this year averaged 47 yards per punt. Finally a special teams weapon... 6.161 + 7.214: honestly cant say I know enough of players in this draft to say anything this far. I will say Levonta Taylor (CB FSU) is another player I have my eye on but don't see us taking more than two defensive backs given the promise our current players showed. As well as Patrick Queen who could be taken as a Will Parks replacement. *This draft is prior to receiving comp picks of which I can see us taking another O-lineman and linebacker to further bolster depth.
  4. 2020 College Prospects

    Who would you take/what would you do if you had the option of Andrew Thomas and Chase Young? Young might be a better player at a more impact position but Thomas is a great prospect as well at a bigger need area.
  5. 2020 College Prospects

    I guess what I'm wondering is what would it take for you to consider drafting Chase Young, recognizing it isnt a top 4-5 need. What if the team offered their late teen 1 and 2 this year for Miller. Would that be enough to make Young a realistic possibility for us?
  6. 2020 College Prospects

    Thinking this out loud. Lets say we pick 5th overall, Chase Young is there, and a team in the late teens calls about Von Miller offering a 1, 2 this year and 2 next year. How enticed would you be to partner Chubb and Young on rookie contracts and free up the cap space used on Miller? Tua, Burrow, Thomas, Jeudy going top 4 picks.
  7. 2020 College Prospects

    Gotta think we hit the lines heavy next year. Oline has Bolles and Leary as potentially being cut with McGovern a free agent and no depth beyond that. Dline has the whole starting squad set for free agency. Ideally imo we get one of the top OT's coming out ( Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs as the names I keep hearing. Any others worthy of a top 15 look? ). Then I would like to package our 2nd and 3rd to move up and get Tyler Biadasz, C and hopefully start actually building a decent line. This seems like a very deep draft though and we are really hurting for depth. We need to start picking up extra lottery tickets by having ~10 picks a draft and give ourselves opportunities to find gems and limit the impact of missing on a pick. If one of the O-lineman arent available early then I would be on board with moving down and trying to restock our depleted roster. Other positions to look at: Corner, Safety (hoping we re-sign Simmons long term sooner rather than later), Linebacker, and WR as other potential spots to be looking at.
  8. I believe you're talking about Sam Hinikie. Not sure if he still is a part of the organization of if he was just brought in for a short term consultation.
  9. Thus far every one of our picks was in for a top 30 visit. Edit: Germ beat me to it haha
  10. Grizmo's 2019 Mock Draft

    Ed Oliver is consistently mocked between pick 5 and 14. With the depth on Dline in this draft, it's not crazy to think teams will consider taking other players in the first and take advantage of the depth of the position. Harry is one of about 8 other WR's who are ranked in the first two rounds and in various orders. Depending on team's boards, Harry could definitely be there in the 2nd. Warring is in a cluster of TE's too. You have Hockenson, Fant, Smith Jr., Sternberger, Knox, Smith, Oliver, Moreau, Wilson, and Raymond. I don't see 11 TE's going in the first three rounds... Warring definitely has a chance to be there in the early 5th. Saying Ford and Simmons will be drafted barely different than the spots I have them at isn't saying anything...If i'm off by 2/3rds of a round or more, then sure. If you have them rated that differently then I can see why you would think they're not good value. But 8-10 picks more isn't considered a reach at all, I just value Ford a tad more than you do. As Royal_VT said, mocks "generally fall under wishful thinking". I'm going to mock up my ideal scenario, not my 4th best case scenario... With all that said, what do you like/not like about the players i've selected for our team and their fit? Let's have some discussion.
  11. Grizmo's 2019 Mock Draft

    Love is a baller who I think would fit in along side CHJ on the outside with Callahan in the slot and Jackson at safety. Being on a 4 year deal, he'll have his contract end around the same time Callahan, Jackson and potentially CHJ on a new deal would be up. I dont think you can ever have too many corners and having Love compete with Yiadom would be great for both their developments and also give us insurance for potentially if any injuries come up (both callahan and jackson have multiple seasons of having missed games). If not at the tail end of the 2nd round, I would look for David Long in the middle rounds. We can agree to disagree on Ford. I do agree he is on the heavier side and I would prefer him to go down to 320 from 330, but even at 330 he was in the top 5 of 3 cone drill and top 10 in the 20 yard shuttle. Additionally, he definitely isnt in the same tier as Nelson, but I like him better than Frank Ragnow, Billy Price, Will Hernandez, Braden Smith, James Daniels and Connor Williams who went in the top 2 rounds last year. Risner is ok imo. I like him, but I like Ford much better. Garrett is close due to his athleticism but I want to see McGovern there and see what he can do.
  12. Grizmo's 2019 Mock Draft

    Here are my mock drafts for this year, one (A) assuming we stay put and another (B) with trades. Mock Draft A Round 1 #10: Ed Oliver (DL) Ed Oliver played all across the Houston defensive line. That is a feature Fangio has mentioned he expects of all of his D-lineman. With all of our D-line starters up for free agency after this year, Oliver would project to secure one slot and bring back an interior pass rush we have missed since Malik Jackson. Added, he's great against the run. I would love to see what Kollar can do with a talent like Oliver and see if he can coach him up to be our Aaron Donald. Round 2 #41: N'Keal Harry (WR) Harry isn't sudden. He's not incredibly agile. He's not an Emmanuel Sanders type of player. But he does have sneaky long speed and great hands similar to Deandre Hopkins. Sutton and Harry would form a tough combination. We would still need a quick route runner for the slot, but his passion and feistiness would elevate our offenses intensity. Round 3 #71: Chuma Edoga (OT) As a former 5* recruit, he is athletic and smooth and can be nasty as well. What has him falling is his height (6'3) and that he doesn't show high effort throughout the entirety of the play, being content with initial wins vs his opponent. He is hit or miss in looking for work besides his initial counterpart. If he can have a fire lit under him, he can be a steal though as he is exactly the kind of swing tackle to develop with potential to become a starter. Round 4 #125: Justin Hollins (OLB) Following FA, we have Miller, Chubb and a player who flashed but was also on the Practice Squad basically all year in Holland. With Ray and Barrett gone, we need another edge player to help keep our all star OLB's fresh. Hollins has speed (4.5 40 time) and size (6'5 248lbs) to try to develop into an impact player. Round 5 #148: Kahale Warring (TE) Solid all around player with surprising acceleration and really good blocking skills. He looks pretty good and I'm surprised he's not being talked about a little more but that helps this mock out as he falls to us. Round 5 #156: Terez Hall (ILB) Hall reminds me of a poor mans Deion Jones as he is undersized, aggressive and powerful. Where he falls short is his instincts aren't quite where you want them as he doesn't work his way down the line and show some patience, rather shooting the first hole he can. This leads to openings in the running game. Hall has the makings of a great special teams player at the very least with upside to be a solid role player with Reggie Herring's tutelage. Round 6 #182: Albert Huggins (DL) Played well in the championship game. Worth a flier to see if he is a good player just stuck behind a couple of 1st rounders. Round 7 #237: Jimmy Moreland (CB) Very undersized at 5' 10 175lbs but had elite production and played well in the all star games. Mock Draft B Trade: #10 (Dwayne Haskins) to the NYG for #17, #95, 2020 second round pick After selecting Devin White at pick #6, the Giants trade up for Dwayne Haskins. Not only do we get an additional mid round pick this year but we gain some ammunition next year should we decide to pursue a QB in the 2020 draft. Round 1 #17: Cody Ford (OG/OT) Ford imo is underrated and i'm not sure why besides maybe his height? He is powerful, nasty, and finishes blocks as he shows high effort. Although he is 330lbs he is sneaky athletic for that size. While he might fit at tackle in a power scheme, he likely would not have the necessary athleticism there in a zone scheme. With McGovern shifting to center this year, we have a need at guard and Ford is up there with the best of them. (I'd argue second best IOL prospect in the past two years after Nelson). The two main ways to aid our QB's is with a stellar line and defense. Round 2 #41: Jeffery Simmons (DL) Getting that future second implies we are future focused for our team. We have a solid group of D-line starters this year but next year is a different story. Simmons should be healthy by next year and projected to be a Fletcher Cox type player pre-injury. Barring a crazy run, we likely aren't Superbowl contenders this year so taking a potential pro-bowler at a needed position is a no brainer. Trade: Broncos give: Rnd 3 #71 and Rnd 4 #125 New Orleans give: Round 2 #62 Why would NO trade? They don't have a 1st or 3rd or 4th round pick and could use an extra pick in the middle rounds. Round 2 #62: Julian Love (CB) Julian Love's getting his hands on balls. 16 PBU this past year and 20 PBU's the year before. He's a good tackler and plays with passion. Every corner this year has flaws and Julian does as well as he does not possess top end speed but he has the instincts to put himself is solid position. Round 3 #95: Parris Campbell (WR) Campbell is a world class athlete but he is 100% a project as the majority of his catches were on crossers or screens. He reminds me of Cordarrelle Patterson in the ways he has succeeded thus far. He's a two time captain though so that gives me faith that he is willing to work to continue to improve his route running and become more than a gadget player. Ideally he would be available in the 4th but I highly doubt it due to his athleticism which is special enough to take a chance on now. Round 5 #148: Kahale Warring (TE) Solid all around player with surprising acceleration and really good blocking skills. He looks pretty good and I'm surprised he's not being talked about a little more but that helps this mock out as he falls to us. Round 5 #156: Terez Hall (ILB) Hall reminds me of a poor mans Deion Jones as he is undersized, aggressive and powerful. Where he falls short is his instincts aren't quite where you want them as he doesn't work his way down the line and show some patience, rather shooting the first hole he can. This leads to openings in the running game. Hall has the makings of a great special teams player at the very least with upside to be a solid role player with Reggie Herring's tutelage. Round 6 #182: Cody Thompson (WR) Thompson isn't the fastest or most agile receiver as he plays similar to Chris Hogan or Adam Theilen. He does have a high IQ and is all around solid with athleticism as his biggest weakness. Round 7 #237: Jimmy Moreland (CB) Very undersized at 5' 10 175lbs but had elite production and played well in the all star games.
  13. Draft Prospects

    Campbell is definitely an interesting prospect but he is incredibly raw. His route running needs A LOT of work. I wouldn't take him before our 3rd round pick and ideally with our 4th rounder but not sure he lasts that long. He does have special athleticism though.
  14. Draft Prospects

    Pre-Comine, my top 15 draft preferences are: 1: Nick Bosa (OLB) - I know, we have Miller and Chubb but Von's contract lasts 3 more years and you never pass up elite talent. Bosa and Chubb in 2-3 years would keep our elite pass rush. 2: Quinnen Williams (DE) - Elite talent at 5T 3: Ed Oliver (DE) - Potential to be a true difference maker as a 3T. Size is overstated I believe. We'll see after the combine though. Regardless, he plays bigger than his size and can continue to get bigger. His get off and athleticism is top notch though. Bill Kollar working with him would be unfair. 4: Greedy Williams (CB) - True ball hawk. Can put on weight in the next year or two and will need to be coached to be more physical, but from a coverage/potential standpoint he can be a perennial pro-bowler. 5: Jonah Williams (T) - Issues of length are exaggerated. Can bring stability to our RT position as he has everything besides nastiness. Foot speed, hand placement, etc. 6: Jawan Taylor (T) - More of the prototypical size and nastiness while being a very athletic player as well. I see him some what like Cordy Glenn. 7: Trade Down 8: Cody Ford (T/OG) - Would need to continue to lose a little bit of weight and get under 330lbs. Has the possibility to stick at RT but possibly would have to move to Guard where he can excel as well. 9: DK Metcalf (WR) - I know, we took two WR's last year. But Sanders will be out after this year. Sutton already has shown he can be an amazing jump ball receiver but I see him as a great #2. Metcalf has everything you would want, Injury concerns being the only question. Hence a target after a trade down. 10: Byron Murphy (CB) - At minimum he will be an amazing slot CB which is a starter in todays nfl. Size is the only question though has he is physical and has great cover skills. 11: Devon White (ILB) - Im not as high on his as others and the position is one where great players can be found later in the draft. He does have potential though to be amazing if things come together as he has prototypical size and speed. Lacks awareness as he is new to the position though. 12: Kyler Murray (QB) - If Murray was 6'2 there would be no question he's the number 1 pick in the draft. He has arm strength and best pure accuracy in the draft. His size is definitely a cause for concern but after a trade down, he would be worth the risk. Worst case scenario is he leaves for baseball after 2 years of a failed experiment and we're in the position for taking another QB in the 2021 draft (hint hint Lawrence hint). 13: Andre Dillard (LT) - Dillard is the closest to a pure LT there is in this draft but he comes from a spread scheme which leads to lots of questions. Worth the potential though. 14: Jeffery Simmons (DT) - Aside from injury and possible character concerns (although there has been glowing reviews of him since college) he is an elite talent that we can wait for since we wont be super bowl contenders this year. 15: Drew Lock (QB) - I'm not the biggest Lock fan, but similar to the Murray explanation, he will have two years to show us he can be a great player, if not we'll be in position to draft a QB in 2021. You miss all the shots you don't take and at option 15, this is a risk worth taking. The one caveat that I can't control for is desire/passion for football. I place that incredibly highly in prospects but I won't have the information that teams do on that front. So depending on how the team views that passion, I could see these being rearranged pretty significantly. Top 10 I value potential to be a true difference maker in the league. A possible top 10 player at the position. After that, I want to build a team that would allow a future young QB to have a successful supporting cast (think Texans pre-Watson). We'll see how the combine and more research changes things but i'll probably update this one, maybe two more times before the draft. Bonus! Round two targets depending on round 1 outcome: Jerry Tillery (DE) - 5T Dalton Risner (RT) Kelvin Harmon (WR) Julian Love (CB) Chauncey Gardner-Johnson (SS) Other players I like: Germaine Pratt (ILB) Rodney Anderson (RB) Taylor Rapp (SS)
  15. 2019 NFL Draft General Discussion

    Extremely small sample size but I just watched the LSU vs Auburn game, focusing on Devin White and I was extremely underwhelmed. He looks to have good size and great speed but constantly over ran plays, tackled high, misdiagnosed plays, and is mediocre as a blitzer. I heard he had a good game vs Georgia so ill check that out before I write him off, but was looking forward to a great linebacker coming out this year.