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  1. We'll crap. I read the post saying it was 9 pm central time. I missed the part where it said it was 9pm central European time. My bad, guys. Guess I'm too late.
  2. It's time to get excited about the Chiefs D again!

    After seeing our D in preseason, I can confidently say we have a lot of potential. However, there were tons of rookie mistakes and it'll probably take at least the first half of the season before the game starts to slow down for them. I love the pieces still, though. Nnadi, Speaks and Watts all looked damn good IMO.
  3. So do you guys still need a team owner or is KC Guy filling that spot? If you need an emergency fill-in, I'm down.
  4. It's time to get excited about the Chiefs D again!

    Lol, figures. This morning, the football appeared for the first time. Thanks!
  5. It's time to get excited about the Chiefs D again!

    I agree whole heartedly. We won't truly know what we got with this draft class until a few years from now. However, the main point I wanted to make was that Sutton hasn't been able fully open up his playbook since 3 years ago because DJ's, Tamba's, Berry's and Poe's previous contributions have either been removed or extremely reduced. Regardless of whether this offseason's moves will immediately bare fruit, Sutton has the pieces he needs to run more exotic looks and create mismatches. I don't expect that we'll field a top 5 defense this year, but I do expect to see more personnel package variations, which can do nothing but make us more difficult to gameplan for. Btw, how do I like a post? I can't seem to figure it out.
  6. Bad News - Terez Paylor is gone

    Fair enough, I guess. That style just isn't my cup of tea because even though most athletes say they don't pay attention to the media, I'm not convinced that's true 100% if the time...and if we have a journalist that's constantly writing negative things about you and your team, you'll eventually begin to believe his rhetoric. Just my take.
  7. Bad News - Terez Paylor is gone

    Sorry, you're right. I try to forget Teicher even exists. Whitlock was always just so negative. I always felt like I was being trolled by him.
  8. Bad News - Terez Paylor is gone

    I'll miss him for sure. He was a huge improvement over Whitlock.
  9. It's time to get excited about the Chiefs D again!

    @samsel23, that "nothing speaks" moniker made me chuckle, haha. @Edge, I had the same reaction at first. I thought we were trading up in the second for a CB, so the Speaks pick about floored me until I had the chance to look into things more. Thanks for the warm welcome, guys!
  10. 2018 Chiefs Draft Class

    Thanks and nope, go right ahead. Thanks! According to Google University, Donnie was drafted back in 1995 under Marty when Gunther was still our DC. Herm was our DB coach that year.
  11. 2018 Chiefs Draft Class

    I'll be adding to this post as I find time. I wanted to make it easy for everyone to familiarize themselves with our draft class/offseason additions so we all know what to expect once the preseason/regular season is upon us. The strengths/opportunities listed are my impressions, based on the limited film I've seen on each player. QB Patrick Mahomes Sorry, but I can't not include him here. The last time I got to be hyped about a QB we drafted was Brodie Freakin' Croyle and his insanely hot wife. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I still like his wife more than I liked him, lol. Anyway, I don't care what anyone says! He's our 1st round pick and an instant starter in 2018. Eat your heart out, Baker Mayfield! Enjoy your $5 million bajillion dollar contract that'll have to be voided 2-3 years from now. Say "hi" to Mr. Dorsey for me. OLB/DE/UT Breeland Speaks Strengths: Unrelenting motor. Strong at the point of attack with polished hand placement and always has his eyes on the ball carrier, even when engaged. High energy player who strives to be a technician. His build and experience on the interior and exterior defensive line makes him extremely versatile and as a result, extremely valuable. Looking at his tape, it's very rare to see him on the ground; he understands leverage and how to use it to his advantage. Flashes potential to become a 2-gap DE and has sufficient athleticism to play OLB in a 3-4 scheme. Opportunities: Although his swim and rip moves are polished, he often relies on them too much. Pushes up-field too aggressively on passing downs, leaving his gap assignment vacated, thus making his gap an easy target for draw plays or QB scrambles for big yardage. Although his motor often makes up for it, he lacks elite burst and bend to generate consistent pressure as an edge rusher. Below average change of direction skills in space. Height: 6'3" (same as Tamba) Weight: 283 lbs Arm Length: 33 3/4" (same as Tamba) Hands: 9 7/8" Bench Press: N/A 40 Yard Dash: 4.87 seconds (same as Tamba) Vertical Jump: 32.5" (Tamba: 30") Broad Jump: 110.0" 3 Cone Drill: 7.63 seconds (Tamba: 7.28 seconds) 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.65 seconds (Tamba: 4.31 seconds) NFL.com Draft Profile Pro Day Bag Drills (Check out the power in his punch!) 2017 Highlights NT/NG Derrick Nnadi Strengths: Good luck finding bad tape on this kid. Plays with a great motor with tons of intensity. Like Speaks, he's never on the ground and always keeps his eyes focused on the ballcarrier. His ability to track the ball is crazy good. He's extremely strong at the point of attack, despite his lackluster bench press reps. Has a strong initial punch and his feet never stop moving. Combine those active feet with a powerful lower body and good lateral agility and you get a very disruptive player who WILL help stuff the run. Even when he doesn't make the tackle, stops for a loss are usually because Nnadi disrupted the play before it could get out of the backfield. Opportunities: Lacks the necessary burst to offer a consistent pass rush. Not a sideline-to-sideline player. If it's inside the tackles, he'll be in on the play, but outside the tackles, he's stuck waiting for the runner reverse direction before he can make a play, even in active pursuit. Doesn't have the height to swat passes and can be taken out of plays if he doesn't land the first punch. Height: 6'1" Weight: 317 lbs Arm Length: 33 1/2" Hands: 9 7/8" Bench Press: 25 reps 40 Yard Dash: 5.38 seconds Vertical Jump: 27.0" Broad Jump: 96.0" 3 Cone Drill: 8.15 seconds 20 Yard Shuttle: 5.02 seconds NFL.com Draft Profile 2017 Highlights Dime LB Dorian O'Daniel Strengths: This kid is an acrobat. His change of direction skills are off the charts for a linebacker. He plays with tremendous speed and confidence and is at his best when playing "down hill". Even though he lacks size, he's effective while blitzing and breaking down in space to secure the tackle, thanks to his consistent tackling technique. Recognition skills are excellent, frequently sniffing out screen plays and blowing them up for a loss or no gain. He's excellent in coverage and can match-up in man or zone on RBs or TEs with ease, thanks to participating regularly in DB drills at Clemson. The guy is also a terror on special teams. Think Kassim Osgood. He flows through traffic better than any college gunner I've ever seen. Opportunities: Undersized. Unless he can bulk up (or channel his inner Donnie Edwards), he'll likely never be a 3 down linebacker. Focuses on the backfield/ball carrier well, sometimes to a fault, leaving himself open for crack-back blocks from WRs, TEs and RBs. Sometimes overly aggressive, resulting in taking himself out of the play while attempting to knife behind a blocker. Struggles with crossing routes and slants across the middle (needs some extra reps here). Height: 6'1" Weight: 223 lbs Arm Length: 31 1/8" Hands: 9" Bench Press: 21 reps 40 Yard Dash: 4.61 seconds Vertical Jump: 32.0" Broad Jump: 119.0" 3 Cone Drill: 6.64 seconds 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.07 seconds NFL.com Draft Profile 2017 Highlights FS Armani Watts Height: 5'11" Weight: 202 lbs Arm Length: 31" Hands: 8 3/4" Bench Press: 13 reps 40 Yard Dash: 4.56 seconds Vertical Jump: 35.0" Broad Jump: 120.0" 3 Cone Drill: 7.25 seconds 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.37 seconds NFL.com Draft Profile Highlights CB Tremon Smith Height: 6'0" Weight: 190 lbs Arm Length: 31 1/5" Hands: 8" Bench Press: 15 reps 40 Yard Dash: 4.33 seconds Vertical Jump: 35.0" Broad Jump: 119.0" 3 Cone Drill: 7.03 seconds 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.14 seconds NFL.com Draft Profile Highlights OG Reginald "Kahlil" McKenzie Height: 6'3" Weight: 314 lbs Arm Length: 31 1/2" Hands: 10 1/8" Bench Press: 26 reps 40 Yard Dash: 5.15 seconds Vertical Jump: 29.5" Broad Jump: 105.0" 3 Cone Drill: 7.94 seconds 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.68 seconds NFL.com Draft Profile Chiefs scout Pat Sperduto talking about Kahlil's potential at OG (MUST WATCH!) Full combine workout (he moves like a DE and has the lower body of a NT) If you have anything to add, feel free!
  12. It's time to get excited about the Chiefs D again!

    Thanks, man! Glad to be here. I live in Springfield, so even though there are a few Chiefs fans around here, none of them follow the team as closely as I do. I'm happy to have found a forum that can feed my addiction, haha.
  13. It's time to get excited about the Chiefs D again!

    I sure did. Hitchens isn't a world-beater who can do everything, but of the things he can do, he does them extremely well. With him and Ragland both on the roster, a guy like O'Daniel became a necessity. It'll be a lot of fun to watch him & Berry work the middle and blowin' up screens together. You may be right about Bailey/Speaks. I guess we'll see, but either way, I love Speaks' versatility. I heard Reid & Veach talk about how their main goal this draft was to go after "chess pieces" in this draft, so I started digging to figure out what they meant. After I did, I couldn't resist making this post. Anyone who rips on this draft simply doesn't understand it, in my opinion. Once it all comes together on Sundays, everyone will get it.
  14. 2018 KC Chiefs Skeleton Depth Chart

    Not entirely, no. Big Red & Veach both said they want him to be our ROLB. However, with his size and experience at anywhere from 3 technique to 7 technique, they also value his versatility on the DL. Being able to line him up anywhere in blitz packages or on the line in different fronts is mainly why they seem to like him so much. Plus, he plays with such a high motor that he'll be in the play regardless of where he lines up. He doesn't have elite burst or bend, so don't expect him to be the next Von Miller. I think Justin Tuck is probably the best NFL comparison for Speaks, even though he's slightly more athletic than Tuck was. I see Kpassagnon as more of a true 3-4 DE than anyone on our roster not named Chris Jones.
  15. I know, I know; the new guy is enthusiastic. What else is new, right? Seriously, though. Bob Sutton's hands have been tied the last two years because of depleted talent in our front 7. Ever since we lost Poe and DJ/Tamba started really showing their age, we lost our versatility. Let's not forget we haven't had Berry back at 100% since then, either. We couldn't stop the run and all we've been able to do in the passing game is play press coverage or deep zone and hope that we delay the QB's reads long enough for Jones or Houston to get a sack (or pressure the QB). Even then, Houston was kept in coverage last year more than any other year he's been a pro. That's how depleted our front 7 was. Our best pass rusher was also (arguably) our best pass defending LB. In short, without turnovers, we we've been totally screwed for a couple years. This year's draft changes a lot of that. How, you ask? Why do I say this? I'll do my best to explain... What have we done to better enable us to stop the run now? Added: Signed Hitchens (Mike ILB) Signed Williams (NT) Drafted Drafted Speaks (OLB/DE) Drafted Nnadi (NT/NG) Drafted O'Daniel (LB) Drafted Watts (FS) We now have versatility and at least 4 of these players should be able to step in on day one and provide an upgrade over last year. Every role each player will play is extremely specific and each of them grant us the freedom to play virtually any scheme we want. For the first time in 2-3 years, Sutton will be able to open up his entire playbook again. The possibilities are endless: X X X X X Bailey Williams Jones Houston Ragland Hitchens Speaks ^^ That's going to be our base 3-4 front 7 unless Nnadi or Ford can win the starting gig. I expect Nnadi to be the starting NT by week 6-8, but not by the start of the season. Either way, we have a stout NT, two stout DEs anchoring the outside, a ferocious OLB in Houston, Speaks is a HUGE mismatch if he's blitzed inside and it makes it impossible for teams to double-team Jones every snap unless they keep a TE or RB back to help with protection. Compared to last year, that's a major upgrade and that's not even taking into consideration how big of an upgrade Hitchens is over DJ last year. Don't get me wrong, I loves me some DJ, but his quality of play dropped off a cliff last year. That begs the question; what about our nickel packages? Dime? Let's take a look... Rush Nickel X X X X X Houston Bailey Jones Speaks Ragland Hitchens ^^ That's a MUCH more athletic front 6 in rush nickel packages, which should not only translate to more success in pass rush success, but should also help defend the short passing game. Dime X X X X X Houston Bailey Jones Speaks ---------------------------------------- O'Daniel ^^ Now imagine Berry and Watts flying around, making plays at the end of the season while that pass rush is dialed up to full steam on third downs. That's a hell of a lot of speed on the field. For comparison, last year, it was Houston (about 60% of the time), Bailey, Jones and (sometimes) Nunez-Roches. Now comes the fun stuff, though. Remember when we had Glenn Dorsey and ran a tampa-2? Remember our scheme back then? We had Tamba playing the Elephant role. Imagine Houston playing that role with Jones playing Dorsey's role while Nnadi pushes the pocket with his (almost) 35" arms and Speaks stunting around to the B gap. Imagine how stout our run defense will be with Houston sealing one edge and Speaks (even bigger and stronger than Houston) sealing the other with Nnadi disrupting plays on the inside. That frees up Bailey and Jones to make plays...and that's not even including Hitchens and Ragland shooting gaps...OR Berry coming up in run support. One last thing Every single player we signed or drafted (in the first 4 rounds) this offseason is simply RELENTLESS. They all have a motor that doesn't quit. They're all super high energy and athletic as hell. The thing I like even more than that, though, is that our first 4 draft picks go after THE BALL. Any time the situation presents itself, they go for a strip or a pick. They're not just satisfied with making a tackle or batting away a pass. They want that damn ball! Because of how passionately these offseason additions play, I'm not worried about the loss of Peters. Will we have some issues against the better QBs in the league? I think so. But, with how explosive as our offense will likely be and the fact that we should be able to rush the passer and stop the run with regularity, I think it's enough to offset the potential need at CB. Let me know what you think! Agree? Disagree? Did this help you become more optimistic about this offseason?
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