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  1. Getting rid of Monday Night Football

    MNF doesn't even exist to me anymore. To me, Frank Gifford was the voice of MNF, and they don't even have Al Michaels anymore. Then they have those stupid, goofy graphics every other play and the announcers are zoning in and out of the actual game. There's no atmosphere of intensity anymore. The games seem like preseason games all year.
  2. Is Aaron Donald already a HOFer?

    Boselli's rookie year wasn't HOF caliber. Easley got in, so he's just more support for the argument. Only a few of the guys on your list would be what I consider "underrated." Because if they're underrated, how should they be rated instead? Most of them were voted to several Pro Bowls and received all the accolades they deserved. Which of those guys deserve to be in the HOF, which is the only way a guy who made multiple Pro Bowls could really be underrated? Very few. And Sterling Sharpe gets tons of mention from analysts and fans alike about where he would have ranked in history if not for the neck injury, etc. So he's about as close as you can get to HOF recognition without getting into the HOF. You want to see underrated, try a guy like Kevan Fagan. One of the greatest point of attack run defenders to ever play the game. Dominated HOF guards and tackles, including Anthony Munoz in the SB. Never voted to a Pro Bowl, only one UPI All-Pro mention, and clueless 49er fans don't even know who he is, cheering much louder for marginal players like Jesse Sapolu during "legends" events. Or for another one, Ted Johnson in New England. If you were to ask any scout during the 90s, he was one of the top 3 ILBs in the NFL (before the injuries limited him too much). Nobody was better at blowing up the fullback in the hole. No Pro Bowls, no All-Pro mentions. Personally, although I despise him, I think Rodney Harrison is also underrated. He's the best run support safety I've ever seen and deserves serious HOF consideration, which he will never get because he only made 2 Pro Bowls. Herman Moore suffers from the fact that he was a wide receiver. The whole "the passing game keeps inflating" thing makes voters hesitate. That won't affect a guy like Donald.
  3. Is Aaron Donald already a HOFer?

    Never happened.
  4. Is Aaron Donald already a HOFer?

    The Titans had all kinds of bad years against the run when Haynesworth was there. One player can never stop the run all by himself. Donald dominates his man at the point of attack. If you happen to go at his gap, he'll stack, shed, and end it right there.
  5. Is Aaron Donald already a HOFer?

    Yes, he was. The same way Tony Boselli is eventually going to get into the HOF despite his career being cut very short. Also, your all-time list of underrated players is embarrassing. "Underrated" does not mean a good, not great player whom people don't talk about anymore because they were never great. "Underrated" means a player was better than he was given credit for. A great player who was only viewed as good. A good player who was criticized too much. Etc.
  6. Is Aaron Donald already a HOFer?

    Aaron Donald isn't Sapp/Randle, he's the Lawrence Taylor of DTs. He dominates in all facets of the game.
  7. Is Aaron Donald already a HOFer?

    I don't think there's really anything else left for him to prove. He could stop playing tomorrow and he's the Gale Sayers of DTs.
  8. Is Julio still the #2 WR in the league?

    OBJ is my #1.
  9. Can you argue this QB list post-1980?

    I rate Elway about where I rate Terry Bradshaw. Very similar players. Rare athleticism, strong arms...hindered somewhat by not playing in great systems (well, in Elway's case only up until Fassel took over the offense in 93). Elway was smarter, though. Bradshaw really couldn't spell "cat" if you spotted him the "c" and the "t."
  10. Tony Romo vs Donovan McNabb vs Carson Palmer vs Eli Manning

    1. Romo 2. Palmer 3. Eli 4. McNabb
  11. Linebacker Heritage

    ~sigh~ Here we go again. That's not what "system player" means. When somebody is described as a "system player," it means he's a limited talent who would fail without being in a system that inflates his success the same way it does everybody else's. That is not true for legitimate talents. There is no system that could stop a legitimate talent from being a good player. If a player "doesn't fit the system," it simply means he's not a very good player. Kliff Kingsbury was a product of Texas Tech's system, for example. The easy, wide open passing scheme was why he put up big numbers in college, and it's why he wasn't considered a real NFL prospect. Bill Belichick is a man who dicked around with both Troy Brown and Julian Edelman at corner as he was shutting teams down. He's a man who traded both Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins simply because they were too talented for his taste. And then they gave up the fewest points in the league after they did that. To Belichick, it's no fun winning with too much actual talent. He enjoys the challenge of doing it with journeymen (and of course, it also feeds his ego). Guys like Mike Vrabel would never have been starters in the NFL without Belichick.
  12. Linebacker Heritage

    And while we're at it, San Francisco's trounce the Patriots: Dave Wilcox, Jack Reynolds, Charles Haley, Keena Turner, Ken Norton, Gary Plummer, Patrick Willis, Navorro Bowman, Reuben Foster.
  13. Linebacker Heritage

    No, a guy who only had 1 double digit sack season in a 15 year career as a 3-4 pass rushing specialist OLB is not special. Your homerism is ridiculous. It's also hilarious how you left off Andre Tippett and Ted Johnson, both of whom were way better players than anybody from the Patriots you listed. It's funny how Patriots fans are blind to how little talent their team has had during Belichick's tenure there. Newsflash: Belichick is a "system players" guy. Every once in a blue moon, he'll add a legitimate talent like a Randy Moss or a Darrelle Revis to try to put them over the top, but he stocks his teams with marginal/journeyman-caliber players and schemes them to success. The Patriots have been a revolving door of players who were backups on other teams for almost 20 years now.
  14. Would you rather have peak Moss or peak Rice for s

    Athletically, Rice relative to his peers in the 80s was damn near what Moss was in his Minnesota years. The revisionist historians have made it out like he was some kind of overachieving technician. It's pretty funny to those who remember how he was originally the "freak athlete" of the NFL's wide receivers. A 6'2" receiver who reportedly ran 4.4 in the 40 (a 40 time which was revised over and over again by revisionist historians to the point of hilarious absurdity...in another 10, 20 years, they'll be claiming he ran 5.0) and was sensational at high-pointing the ball. Before getting "Moss'd," corners got "Rice'd" by Rice just skying over them, Michael Jordan style, and pulling it down. Only you add in strength, balance, and determination after the catch, meaning he was a literal threat to score from anywhere on the field. He was lethal deep and he was lethal short and intermediate. Sure, Moss could take a quick hitch to the house in addition to being lethal deep, but he wasn't about to bounce off 2-3 DBs and take it 80 yards.
  15. Linebacker Heritage

    LOL @ New England being on that list. Not one of those guys listed was special. Take New England out and put in New Orleans just for their famous 4.