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Revis was 30 when he returned to the Jets in 2015 -- to say he was a shell of himself would be a massive understatement. He fell off a cliff when he went to Tampa (27), found his form again for one year in NE (29)... out of the league by 32. Greatest CB all-time (imo) from 2009-2011, but his peak was very short-lived relative to most people in the "goat" conversation. Speaks to how dominant he was at his best and how quickly CBs can fall off.

Quincy Williams is a pretty awesome story, from being waived by Jax -> becoming a modest starter (mostly known for being Qs brother), and now an All-Pro in his 5th season. Don't think anyone saw that coming. Michael Carter II doesn't get close to enough respect around the league. Among slot corners, he ranked first in just about everything (PFF): Total yards allowed: 195 (1st) Total receptions allowed: 25 (1st) Yards per snap: .54 (1st) Snaps per reception: 14.4 (1st) PFF coverage grade: 83.3 (1st) Don't know enough about McDuffie/Johnson to claim he was more deserving, but his name should at least be in the conversation (which it never is).

It's easy for fans of bad teams to scapegoat the O-line when they want to feel better about their QB or skill positions. I'm sure as a Jets fan I'm as guilty as anyone, though we have been pretty bad the last few years (and decimated with injuries).

Breece Hall & Garrett Wilson? The O-line has been terrible, might not have a WR3 either.

Another thing, Hackett has been terrible. Was never a fan of bringing him in, but if that's what it took to land Rodgers I get it. The guy just seems clueless as a play-caller - no rhythm, no identity, no creativity, no consistency. I'm sure someone else can break this down more insightfully. The first few series are a good indicator for evaluating an offensive coordinator; 15 or so scripted plays that you've had all week to plan for, which in theory gives the offense a huge advantage. We've been abysmal at starting every game this season.

Outside of Rodgers, there was very little I liked about our offseason; thought JD dropped the ball, but again, because of Rodgers I didn't really care. Lazard was never good in GB. Hated the signing, and that was assuming he would be our 3/4 Same idea with Hardman Not replacing CD and rolling with the aforementioned never made sense - I posted at the time that if GW were to go down, we would have the worst WRs in the league Opting for Billy Turner as our primary swing tackle Will McDonald > Jaxon Smith-Njigba looks like a mistake - I didn't have much of an opinion at the time, but plenty of people here were quick to call that out I'm not going to fault Douglas for things that were out of his control... i.e. landing a top OL in FA. This is all stuff where he could have reasonably gone in a different direction, decisions he made (or didn't make) that collectively are a big reason as to why this offense is such a mess. Still a big fan of JD, but definitely deserves some of the blame for this offense.

Not necessarily. No one is paying Zach the equivalent of his 5th-year option (barring some huge leap). The more likely scenario is both sides agreeing to a "reasonable" short-term deal for Zach to be Rodgers backup. From what I've read, he's sold on the long-term benefit of developing under Rodgers as his eventual successor, even if that means sitting out a few seasons. The person I'm paraphrasing here (another fan with insights into the Jets), alluded to Zach's relationship with Steve Young and how that has influenced his perspective given Young's career path behind Joe Montana.

He's been better this season, which isn't saying much -- most notably, he's making the easy throws. Last 3 weeks things have started to "click" ... again, not saying much, but he's done his job: Since week 4 (KC, DEN, PHI): → Last season YPG: 210 (25th) → 182 (29th) CMP%: 67% (12th) → 60% (29th) INT%: 1.52% (3rd) → 2.7% (24th) QBR: 49.7 (19th) RTG: 87 (17th) → 73 (31st) TD/INT: 2/1 The first 3-weeks were a disaster, since then he's looked competent -- completing easy (<5yd) throws, not making terrible decisions, etc. Still struggling to read defenses and find the open man, but he's looked much improved, and more confident than he has in the past. We'll see what he does moving forward, but I think the Jets internally still really like Zach.

The New York Jets defense has allowed a touchdown on just 8/59 drives faced this season (13.6%) https://x.com/PFF_Jets/status/1711389582455906333?s=20

https://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1713699738183143710?s=20 EDIT - been having trouble embedding links... Quarterbacks against Robert Saleh's #Jets defense #Bills Josh Allen: 29 of 41, 236, TD, 3 INT, 62.7 QB rating #Chiefs Patrick Mahomes: 18 of 30, 203 yards, TD, 2 INT, 63.6 #Eagles Jalen Hurts: 27 of 43, 279, TD, 3 INT, 60.1 Wow

How about for Breece/Brian Robinson? RBs are brutal, so I have a few flyers out for st brown..

Amon St. Brown/Javonte Williams for Achane/Mostert?

It'll make me sound like a homer, but I don't think you can understate how rejuvenated he looked - a complete 180 from how he's been portrayed over the last few years. I think he's still riding that high and has every intention of coming back, but the real test will be a few months from now when he's more removed from the honeymoon phase and staring down a grueling rehab process.

Find it hard to believe Hackett doesn't have carte blanche offensively

I'm sure it's been said, but in the most painfully ironic way, Rodgers injury looks like it was more on him than the OL. Thought the Jets should have run behind Becton more, and would have liked to see some shots to Wilson one-on-one, but obviously, it worked out. Have to feel good about the type of character we have in the locker room, and credit to the coaching staff, would have been really easy to mail it in after Rodgers went down. Feel terrible for Rodgers, just absolutely brutal. Something about this team man