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  1. 5down

    i didnt realize those guys were on our coaching staff
  2. 5down

    other coaches have come and gone, but one underachiever has been the constant
  3. 5down

    tomlins 'one trick' is his rah rah stuff. cowhers players that needed that little extra shot in the arm are long gone
  4. 5down

    not sure why it isnt apparent tomlin is the one that needs to go
  5. im not buying that brown is so smart he can collaborate something like this i would think rosenhaus would lose everything if they got caught, same with the pats brown had 30+ if he just played ball as a raider. why would he do this for a lot less money? dont give me winning either. he could have stayed here and had a slim chance or he could have vetoed the raiders trade back then
  6. Final CUT

    punt and kick returns arent that big of a part of the game it use to be.......the difference form last tho middle(rankings) from middle to first is hardly noticeable during a game
  7. Vince Williams' time with Steelers over?

    enough that he should be held accountable for instead of talking about firing butler for it remember how everyone wanted butler fired before? rooneys didnt do it because they knew tomlin was mostly running it
  8. Vince Williams' time with Steelers over?

    i thought it was pretty well known that tomlin has been running this defense for the past few years
  9. Vince Williams' time with Steelers over?

    a legit starter drafted in the 5th round? if the steelers could draft legit starters in the 5th round they would never have any areas of need
  10. Vince Williams' time with Steelers over?

    lol, yet you are crapping on a player that has actually produced in a real game.............. not sure where i crapped on him. i can only assume you came to that because 1) you like him, 2) you cant show me all his other great plays all im saying is bush has not made 'a bunch' of great plays behind the line of scrimmage and you state that he has. i sorta found 1, where he assisted. maybe you can show me where to find the other ones
  11. Vince Williams' time with Steelers over?

    i just went back and watched his first game where he was credited with 10 tackles. 1 tackle behind the los was an assist with #92 who forced the play. the other 9 all seemed to be chasing guys down after decent/good gains.
  12. Vince Williams' time with Steelers over?

    no argument from me on that philosophy. my angle was that williams has value on this team
  13. Vince Williams' time with Steelers over?

    we must differ on our definition of 'a bunch'
  14. Training Camp 2019 news and discussion.

    as long as mcdonald stays healthy we are ok..........obviously i do think grimble blows and i dont see gentry having any impact for a year or 2, if at all. i only see grimble as the backup and gentry on the roster due to not addressing the position for years and really having zero competition in camp imo, both kinda have their position out of desperation(kinda like scanning the bar at 145 and seeing what girls havent been taken home yet)...lol
  15. Vince Williams' time with Steelers over?

    i think there is too much bush hype right now compared to what he has actually done. im waiting for bush to make some plays behind the LOS. im pretty confident that it will happen but at this point, i trust williams more baron and bush in the middle leaves us a little light against the run. imo, i think williams has more value being on the team at this point than having a 5th round pick next year.