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  1. 3 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said:

    Iirc it was 4th down. Extend the play doesn’t necessarily mean run for it, it means extend the play you know give targets more time to get open (he was getting favorable pi’s last 3 games when he extended plays) but he could also run if the opportunity presents itself.

    Seems like a better option than throwing it short of the goal line as fast as he could. 

    They should have run the ball on 1st down instead of that stupid spike.

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  2. 4 hours ago, BackinBlack said:

    Honestly though, I would've preferred a pass to renfrow and trusting him to juke out 21, then the pass to Zay. 
    We got this far cause of Hunter, give him the ball game on the line, he deserved the chance IMO.
    But, that play was desgiend and called to go to Zay IMO

    ****ty play and ****ty play design. Carr should have realized this and audibled.

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  3. 3 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

    You don't read or simply don't understand English. I don't think I could make it any more clear why I don't want him but you simply cannot understand. You need more help than I, or anyone here, am capable of offering. Good luck


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  4. 26 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said:

    That’s the million & question carr Olsen and the offensive game plan/ play calling. 

    carr talks a lot at the los is he calling audibles?

    Good question. Is it dummy audibles or blocking assignments?

  5. 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said:

    An up tempo scheme or up tempo drives? 

    Because you can run an up tempo offense in a ball control scheme. In that regard, I agree. 

    If we're talking a 40-50 pass per game chasing 40+ points offense, I think he begins to have limitations.

    My bad. Not scheme. Drives. Thanks.

  6. 37 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said:

    Mack, Crosby, and Yannick on the same defense, particularly a Fangio scheme, would be ridiculous lol. Idk of we could afford it, but it's fun to think about for sure.

    I disagree on the ball control bit though. Jimmy isn't accurate enough. Carr, typically, limits INTs unless we're throwing blind haymakers trying to play catch-up. A serviceable run game and WRs and an OL that blocks instead of him taking blindside shots from a DE, and he's one of the better QBs at not turning the ball over. 

    If a HC wants ball control, I think Carr actually fits that mold exceptionally well if the rest of the offense isn't just a hope and a prayer.

    Ironically, I have a diametrically different opinion here lol. I think Carr would falter in an offense that wants chunk yards and a lot of points. When he has time, he's accurate. Unfortunately, he usually doesn't have near as much time behind our ragtag OL and/or lackluster WRs/routes to do so, and tends to get panicked and press too much or overthrow guys. 

    If he's in a system like Green Bay or San Francisco, I think he would secure top 8 status immediately. When he can be patient and exploit his accuracy, he's really good. He also has ice in his veins in big moments (so much so that it actually makes the first 55 minutes of game time absolutely frustrating at times). Where we sputter is the RZ, when the field condenses. 

    For our RZ woes, I blame the entire offense. The OL can't buy time, Carr can't relax, the WRs are respectable try hards who just aren't that talented, and the route concepts are trash. That last play vs Cincy was one of the worst I've seen. I like to think someone just ran the wrong routes, given that Zay was like 2 yards short of the end zone and 2 guys were running wheel type out routes that were brutally slow to develop in that kind of moment, but I wouldn't put it past Olsen to call something dumb like that by design. The whole sequence was garbage, imo. Spiking the ball was unnecessary given the yards needed and time left. I have no doubt we didn't expect to get that close that quickly and simply didn't have a play dialed up, which goes on the coaching staff. Unless you're Tom or Aaron, I don't want any QB, especially one with a lack of talent around him, calling plays on the fly in big moments. But that tells me the coaching staff itself had little faith in their own system. There should have been a "hey, if we get close and are in bounds with time to spare, here's what we're doing" play called at the beginning of the drive. Cincy was stunned there. Even a straight up the guy run play likely gets something positive in that scenario. To me, you spike the ball when there's a chance for another 1st down if nothing else, not in a & goal situation. 

    Either way, I think Carr would actually excel in a ball control scheme.

    I think Carr actually excels in an up tempo scheme 

  7. 1 hour ago, Bitty 2.0 said:

    People can complain all the want but out of everything team that lost this weekend the Raiders by far played better then the rest of the so-called top teams.

    Being the best loser is not a consolation prize

  8. 8 hours ago, NYRaider said:

    I honestly don't even blame Carr for that sequence though. You could put prime Joe Montana back there and he wouldn't have been able to overcome Greg Olson's play calling.

    Joe Montana would have realized it was a dumb *** play call and audibled to something that had an actual chance to be successful 

  9. 6 hours ago, ronjon1990 said:

    Nah, bro, you can't sit here in the same exact thread talking about how you can't judge incoming guys based on the success/failure of guys who came before and then turn around and do just that without getting called out for it. Get that ish outta here 😉


  10. 10 hours ago, NYRaider said:

    Yes I do but he was 12th in yards and 8th in TDs. So I'd say that this year he was one of the best WR's in the NFL. He just absolutely fried our defense two weeks ago, lol.

    Pretty sure frying the Raiders defense isn't resume worthy

  11. 7 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said:

    we had to fire a coach mid season, most teams would have fell apart. lol We have wideouts who can make some plays but our wideout corps is one of the worst wr units in the league. DC doesn't make the team better? Zay Jones and Renfrow had career years and that's will horrible play calling. DC made key plays when it mattered. I fail to understand how someone doesn't see how DC is the heart of the team. 

    If he’s the heart of the team, the team needs a quadruple bypass

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  12. 2 hours ago, #1RAIDER FAN said:

    Even missing games, Waller has to be thinking hold out this offseason. Worst case scenario he's traded to a team that gets him TDs more than here. Between he and Carr, offense could look entirely different next year.

    If Waller gets traded (would be such a Raider thing to do), I'd break things.

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